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gwden

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 17:34 - 1

It takes forever to level! I'm at level 10 now. It took more than 4 hours to reach lvl10 from level9. Am I doing something wrong?

I try to do quests but I find they take a lot of time for such crummy reward (500 exp is nothing at after lvl 8).

SO, what can I do to level faster?

Arrow Whisper

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 17:35 - 2

Try to have fun, leveling will come at it's own time. Are you playing to level to 20 as fast as you can? Is that fun to you?

If it is great, don't do quests or missions just go out and kill till you're hearts content. You'll level fast enough doing that.

Uncle Morris

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

Kanab, UT

28 Apr 2005 at 17:36 - 3

wait, 4 hours to get halfway up the ladder in an RPG is too slow?

Auntie I

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Veritas Invictus

E/Me

28 Apr 2005 at 17:36 - 4

Level 10 in 4 hours is rreally fast.
Umm you do realize the level cap is 20 don't you? Your 1/2 way to the top!

gwden

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 17:37 - 5

Yeah, I should've mentioned it. My aim is to reach level 20 as fast as possible and then start unlocking spells for PvP. I'm enjoying the game so far. Been playing all day 27th and will do so for the rest of the week for my Spring break.

LouderthanSeth

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Woonsocket RI

Haven't found one worth while yet..

W/Mo

28 Apr 2005 at 17:37 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwden

It takes forever to level! I'm at level 10 now. It took more than 4 hours to reach lvl10. Am I doing something wrong?

I try to do quests but I find they take a lot of time for such crummy reward (500 exp is nothing at after lvl 8).

SO, what can I do to level faster?

Your kidding about that right? Too slow?

gwden

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 17:38 - 7

Lol, my bad. I'm playing as I'm typing. It took 4 hours to reach level 10 from level 9.

Overall it took about 12-16 hours to reach level 9. So about 16-20 hours for level 10.

Greentongue

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Orlando, FL

28 Apr 2005 at 17:39 - 8

If you create a PvP character you will be instantly level 20.

The Missions give 1000 exp (plus an additional 1000 if you do the secondary.)
If you solo you don't share exp points.

Just how fast did you expect to level? Half way to 20 in 4 hours ...

There are only 20 levels you know and a lot of things to learn before you are ready to PvP with the "Big Boys".

Uncle Morris

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

Kanab, UT

28 Apr 2005 at 17:40 - 9

lets partay up and casually kill monsters sometime

. I'm not worried about the level at the moment, I'm just enjoying the scenery, and my pet kitty.

Sausaletus Rex

Death From Above

Join Date: Dec 2004

28 Apr 2005 at 17:41 - 10

Stop doing quests and start doing missions. Missions will give you 1K XP for completion and a skill point (not that skill points are all that important anymore...) as well another 1K for completing the secondary mission as well as the XP for all the monsters you'll fight while running through the mission. The missions start with the Great Northern Wall which you can reach from Ascalon City.

gwden

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 17:44 - 11

Can you repeat same missions and get the 1000 exp reward?

Tanik

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 17:47 - 12

you can do every mission and its 2ndary twice.

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

28 Apr 2005 at 18:07 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanik

you can do every mission and its 2ndary twice.

Really? I never thought about whether you could. You mean that you can only benefit from the XP twice, or that after doing both twice you can't do it? I guess I never tried doing them repeatedly with the same character.

Poppinjay

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 18:44 - 14

So far I don't have any complaints about leveling being too slow, but the person who started this thread did not say it took him 4 hours to get to level 10, he said it took him 4 hours to get from level 9 to 10.

Again, I am not complaining that it is too slow.

I myself am only at level 5 as a mesmer and ahve probably been playing for about 15 hours now (not counting the other caracter I decided to trash).

I have not spent any attribute points yet though. Without experience in the game it is hard to know what to spend them on.

Poppinjay

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

28 Apr 2005 at 18:48 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poppinjay

So far I don't have any complaints about leveling being too slow, but the person who started this thread did not say it took him 4 hours to get to level 10, he said it took him 4 hours to get from level 9 to 10.

Again, I am not complaining that it is too slow.

I myself am only at level 5 as a mesmer and ahve probably been playing for about 15 hours now (not counting the other caracter I decided to trash).

I have not spent any attribute points yet though. Without experience in the game it is hard to know what to spend them on.

Poppinjay

Poppinjay! Spend your points, look at whatever skill(s) you are (or enjoy) using and boost that(those) attribute(s). Try to limit it to one or two attributes to boost at first (you'll have 25 points now, so that's a lvl 5 and a lvl 4, or some combination of lower ones...), but you'll find the game easier that way. You have refund points, so if you decide to change focus you just refund the attibutes back and spend the points differently. You earn more refund points all the time, takes 250 XP per refund point. Just spend them, if you don't like it try again! That's the beauty of this game, it isn't like those games where a bad choice early on kills your character - just equip a different skill and move your atributes.

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

28 Apr 2005 at 19:05 - 16

True. You can't screw up in this game.

butcherboy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 19:06 - 17

20 hours to level up to 10.... that is longer than most SP only games now a days. I believe one of the reviewers of another but not quite the same MMORPG said it took him 3 hours to get level 8 doing go hither quests. With a max of lvl 20, the pacing seems about right.

Missions drive the story, quests drives up profits and power. I would be afraid to complete things as quickly as possible because how long is it before an expansion will be released? I would hate to thing I would PvP for 3 months while awaiting new content.

As for a casual gamer game, try "Freespace". I play that while I am casually waiting for GW to update

. If you pay more than $20 for a new release, don't expect it to be too casual.

vai demine

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

A Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Mo/R

28 Apr 2005 at 19:11 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanik

you can do every mission and its 2ndary twice.

I'm not so sure about this. When I went back to help out some people do the "Defend the Wall" and "Fort Ranik" missions, I got 0 (zero) XP for the main mission and the bonus missions. I am unaware of any limit on the number of times you can do the missions, but you only gain XP for the missions once.

Vai

Cain

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ottawa, Ontario Canada

28 Apr 2005 at 19:20 - 19

I'm level 9.5 after 8 hours and 45 minutes. At least an hour or so was spent idle in towns and outposts. I feel as though I'm leveling at a decent rate.

Tyveil

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 19:22 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by butcherboy

Missions drive the story, quests drives up profits and power. I would be afraid to complete things as quickly as possible because how long is it before an expansion will be released? I would hate to thing I would PvP for 3 months while awaiting new content.

Why do so many people fail to realize the entire purpose of Guild Wars. It is a strategic PVP game similar to chess and very similar to MTGO (Magic the Gathering Online). The whole PvE to level 20 thing is just to get you ready for the Guild Wars at that point. Although I do like the PvE element of this game, it really is just a means to an end.

alestian

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Texas

W/Mo

28 Apr 2005 at 19:25 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouderthanSeth

Your kidding about that right? Too slow?

I agree. Four hours is extremely fast for leveling. Especially since it takes like two days to level in a game like WoW.

Devire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Pittsburgh

28 Apr 2005 at 19:28 - 22

I like to level in this game. That's something I could not say truthfully in reference to some other MMORPGSs.

alestian

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Texas

W/Mo

28 Apr 2005 at 19:28 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyveil

Why do so many people fail to realize the entire purpose of Guild Wars. It is a strategic PVP game similar to chess and very similar to MTGO (Magic the Gathering Online). The whole PvE to level 20 thing is just to get you ready for the Guild Wars at that point. Although I do like the PvE element of this game, it really is just a means to an end.

I'm confused now. I was watching a video on Gamespot.com of one of the developers talking about Guild Wars. They said, and I wish I had the quote to display here, that the purpose of GW was to remove the whole "pound for loot and gold" element found in another popular game (i.e., WoW), to expand on the story and make give it a stronger storyline (i.e., the opposite of PvP), etc. If this is true then the whole focus should be on the story, quests, and leveling; not speedracing to level 20 and then pounding other players. Sounds like the final product is different from what the developer said in the interview.

Tyveil

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 19:38 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by alestian

They said, and I wish I had the quote to display here, that the purpose of GW was to remove the whole "pound for loot and gold" element found in another popular game (i.e., WoW), to expand on the story and make give it a stronger storyline (i.e., the opposite of PvP), etc.

Magic, the Gathering Online also has a great storyline. PvP does not mean no lore/storyline. Fortunately the devs understood that better than you

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

28 Apr 2005 at 19:50 - 25

No, they work hard at making good PvE, because they know it's a big seller and people enjoy it. If the game were purely PvP I might not have gotten it - I already have my PvP in FPS games - if I want to play tactics against another group and test skills I can pick up my Garand and kill some Germans. Many people want a GOOD PvE game, with the option of doing PvP, and that's what they are also providing. Why would the bother to advertise chapters of as much content and plot if it isn't for the PvE crowd? I suspect you have part of the answer - they built a game that had good PvP, but they are in no way trying to make PvE unimportant, just not the painful muddle it is in the OTHER games out there.

Tyveil

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 19:52 - 26

Well I see they did a great job luring you PvE people in... hopefully we can do an equally good job luring you into the dark side

butcherboy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 20:04 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyveil

Why do so many people fail to realize the entire purpose of Guild Wars. It is a strategic PVP game similar to chess and very similar to MTGO (Magic the Gathering Online). The whole PvE to level 20 thing is just to get you ready for the Guild Wars at that point. Although I do like the PvE element of this game, it really is just a means to an end.

Why don't people read FAQ and realize that PvE life beyond 20 consists of finding new skills, weapons, and new areas to explore (including new arenas). If GW is ONLY for PvP why have PvE at all then and just make skills/xp as rewards? The winners get to sell the looser's weapons. PvE would just be paid lip service instead of having NPC, multiple areas, dozens of quests/missions, and a plot.

The topic of is it butter or margin is not worth the debate, though as you play it for what you want out of it, and the rest of us can play it for what we want out of it. You can believe what ever you want.

butcherboy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 20:08 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyveil

Well I see they did a great job luring you PvE people in... hopefully we can do an equally good job luring you into the dark side

Darkside? I'll save that for a GW:Wars game where you can pit entire lands agains each other... mm like Lineage but NOT

. I personally am squemish over PvP games as the last DM I was in I got kicked for no aparent reason other than an early DSL adpoter and a superior resolution - sniping and resolution are friends

. PvP involves too many whiners like myself (freudian) who can't handle loosing to another player.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

28 Apr 2005 at 20:12 - 29

I just wanted to add, that playing for 10 hours is not a casual player.

chalt2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ohio

Heros of Oakhurst - Leader

E/R

28 Apr 2005 at 20:25 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inde

I just wanted to add, that playing for 10 hours is not a casual player.

Agreed, now if you had said that you only played 10 hours over the past 4 betas THEN that would be a casual player, 10 hours a day would be listed as a dedicated player.

gwden

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 20:34 - 31

thanks for the definition of a casual player.

Yes, playing that much is excessive, but that's only for a couple of days. Soon I will be back to my normal schedule where I'll only have a few hours to kill each day.

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

28 Apr 2005 at 20:52 - 32

Yeah, I logged WAY more than I normally will over the betas, and got in 5 hours last night... but that's just because it's new and I made time for it

Shadowyn

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 20:58 - 33

They could make the leveling time from 1 to 20 a half hour and some people will still complain it's too long. It's fine the way it is.

gwden

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 21:03 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowyn

They could make the leveling time from 1 to 20 a half hour and some people will still complain it's too long. It's fine the way it is.

I doubt that.

CrazyGirl

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 21:53 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Morris

wait, 4 hours to get halfway up the ladder in an RPG is too slow?

he said from level 9 to 10, it took 4 hours

Lamaros

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Australia

29 Apr 2005 at 00:29 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyGirl

he said from level 9 to 10, it took 4 hours

Notice how the original post has been edited.
Notice how so many people made posts implying that the original post did not make the distinction.
Notice how the original poster made another post clearing up their mistake.
Notice how someone else made exactly the same post as you already.

I'd like to thank ALL of you for wasting my time; consider this a parting gift of the same nature.

spiritofcat

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sydney, Australia

Order of the Sanguine Dragon [OSD]

E/Mo

29 Apr 2005 at 00:53 - 37

I'm at level 8 after 9 and a half hours. I think the pace is pretty good. I'm not trying to get to level 20 as fast as possible, and I'm more interested in PvE than PvP so it's not really a problem to me.
Harking back to the original topic, I think it still is very accessible to casual players. If you want to PvP then you can make a PvP character, if you want to PvE, then you can have a good time of it however much time you have.

Zek

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

29 Apr 2005 at 03:44 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inde

I just wanted to add, that playing for 10 hours is not a casual player.

Give me a break. Nobody said you had to play that long at once. The cap is Level 20, how fast did you expect each level to go? It's supposed to be casual friendly, but that doesn't mean your character is maxed out in two days of casual play. The time investment necessary to reach the level cap in this game is comparable to, say, that of finishing a decent-length RPG. Compare that to literally weeks of /played time to reach the level cap in any other MMO and Guild Wars is a cakewalk.

kerionaka

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Vienna, Austria

29 Apr 2005 at 08:45 - 40

And the missions (the story is really interesting and twisted), as you lvl, get better and better (and harder and harder) = more XP + more gold + more (rare) stuff + shiny equipment + more skills = MORE FUN!

just don't concentrate on lvl's! That way you hit 20 before your really noticed it

Manderlock

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

TX

Crimson ScS

W/N

29 Apr 2005 at 09:37 - 41

Lvl 15 after 25 and some odd hours of play, and i loved every minute of it