Sever artery

poft123

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

I have a char. Wa/elem. When i use sever artery against some Warriors in PvP i find that it has practically no effect. However, when they use this on me, I bleed and my health continues to decrease with time (although i have armor 85 and major runes). Can anybody explain why this is the case?

Calibretto_9

Calibretto_9

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Zanza Barbarians

W/

Watch your opponents secondary. I know I just got out of random arena, just screwing around, and as always everytime I received a condition I plague touched it to the nearest opponent. Strange, I remember going toe to toe with a war/ele who was insistent on bleeding me. Hope it wasn't you, it didn't end well for him. =)

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

degen alone never killed anyone, you need to back it up with solid damage. and usually the degen scares people into thinking it kills them, if you want to know just how little it does sit in the lava in the fire map and see how long it takes to kill you with 'two' bleedings on you

Diplo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

UK

N/W

Are they following up Sever Artery with Deep Wound? That's a pretty common combo and will look like it's doing more damage faster.

Bast

Bast

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/Mo Paladin premades have that godly 3 pip Mending which owns your Sever Artery. (3-3=0). GG.

poft123

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Probably they are using a nice combo. But really when a necroamcer use its degeneration (green thing) or when mesmer use its (rose thing) i c my life degenerating from 500 to 200 easily and i do not have time to count the backward pip on my health bar.
This is the case although i have 85 armor, 3 major rune and am lvl 20!!! I also use armor earth healing shignet and victory is mine.
How is it that some Wa/Mo when i use sever artery and deep wound they hardly bleeds whilst when they use on me i bleed and bleed.

Bast

Bast

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by poft123
Probably they are using a nice combo. But really when a necroamcer use its degeneration (green thing) or when mesmer use its (rose thing) i c my life degenerating from 500 to 200 easily and i do not have time to count the backward pip on my health bar.
This is the case although i have 85 armor, 3 major rune and am lvl 20!!! I also use armor earth healing shignet and victory is mine.
How is it that some Wa/Mo when i use sever artery and deep wound they hardly bleeds whilst when they use on me i bleed and bleed. LOL.

1.) 3 Major runes? Wtf?
2.) Degeneration ignores armor and is capped at -10, which is 20 life lost per second. It is not "damage" and so is ignored by things that reduce "damage."
3.) Most noob W/Mos (except yourself) are using Mending, which counters the Bleeding caused by Sever Artery.
4.) Armor of Earth on a Warrior in PVP? Stop the madness.
5.) Oh man

poft123

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

I have 3 major runes 1 superior vigor and 1 superuior hammer. What is bad about that?
I was told to use armor of earth in PvP.

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by poft123
I have 3 major runes 1 superior vigor and 1 superuior hammer. What is bad about that?
I was told to use armor of earth in PvP. 3 major runes is -150 hp. 1 sup hammer is -75

total of -225

ouch

you should have a max of one superior as a warrior (hammer) use minors for the rest

Bast

Bast

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Armor of Earth is horrible on a PVP Warrior for obvious reasons.

1. Mobility is important.
2. You don't get attacked, so the defense is irrelevant.

1+2=Bad Warrior skill.



I don't think I need to comment on your runes. If it isn't obvious, you'll never understand it anyway.

Quebec Osti

Quebec Osti

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ok well... you wearing 3 major and a superior and wonder why your life goes down fast?!? Dont search any further... Also, armor of earth on a pvp warrior is HORRIBLE. You need mobility as a warrior. I would laugh so much if I saw a war using it in pvp... No way in hell he would ever touch me.

poft123

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

I badly explained. I have 3 major Absorption, 1 superior vogor 1 superior hammer mastery.

I have been using aftershock but found it is of no use.

Rajamic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

IA

Chronicles of Heroes [CoH]

R/Me

So you are wasting 2 major absorbtion runes then. Not as bad, but still bad.

The Fenixxor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Runes dont stack 1 major absorbtion = 3 major absorbtion's.

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

i still highly doubt its bleeding thats killing you. it probably did only about 50 damage if you actually counted. its gash/ sword attacks that killed you, bleeding just scared you.

tastegw

tastegw

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

SoCal

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bast
Armor of Earth is horrible on a PVP Warrior for obvious reasons.

1. Mobility is important.
2. You don't get attacked, so the defense is irrelevant.

1+2=Bad Warrior skill.



I don't think I need to comment on your runes. If it isn't obvious, you'll never understand it anyway.
not to defend the other guy, but your #2 contradicts your quote about the runes.

think about it.

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

the runes are useless for more reasons than the - hp, like why do you need 15 strength again?

pagansaint

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

15 strength helps the useful strength based skills, Sprint... ummm... Power Attack?... errr... Bull's Strike?...

Rajamic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

IA

Chronicles of Heroes [CoH]

R/Me

Most intelligent Wars use high Strength (ususally around 12 or 13 from what I've seen) with 16 in their Weapon to dish out bigtime damage.

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

strength gives a minimal bonus, and like yay you can add 1 second to sprint...

???

its not worth the -hp is what im getting at. lol. power attack.

RotteN

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by poft123
I have been using aftershock but found it is of no use. you obviously haven't been using it correctly ...

btw, why are you talking about sever artery when you use a hammer ?

poft123

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by RotteN
you obviously haven't been using it correctly ...

btw, why are you talking about sever artery when you use a hammer ? I was using sword. Because my sever artery did not do any big dmg then i switched to hammer. Then i found that i am having problem with those that use sever with gash and deep wound,etc


I still badly explained something. Am using 3 major absorption one on each armor then 1 superior vigor on another and finally superior hammer mastery on another armor which make a total of 5 runes on 5 different armors.

NightOwl

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

You can only use one rune of a given type, the rest are wasted. For example:

Superior Health-bonus hp, woohoo! A 2nd Superior Health...exact same hp as the first...3rd sup health...same as the first.

Basically...only one Major is having it's effect. Dump the others.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

It is only 3pips of degen...

sleazeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

good from far, far from good

Gaming Continuum

Mo/Me

Per the original question, it may well have been that the opposing warrior was a W/N, and used plague touch.

Much more effective than 3 pips of mending.

I wouldn't even consider running a sword/axe warrior with anything other than necro secondary. Hammer of course is a different matter.

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

The rune thing can be summed up as:
Rune effects don't stack. The effects do not add up (clarification).
If he can't understand that, then he can't. I would feel something like the hopelessness I felt when I couldn't explain "market prices" to a person who sold a +29 pommel of fortitude for 3k.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by LightningHell
I felt when I couldn't explain "market prices" to a person who sold a +29 pommel of fortitude for 3k. I hope you were the buyer.

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

No, I failed miserably.

By the way, why are you using aftershock? Do you have Whirlwind?

Axel Revolver

Axel Revolver

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

In A Box.

W/R

I don't see the point on putting Strength in a Warrior's att. point, but maybe it's because I'm a W/R. I put my att. points in Tactics 12, Axe Master 12, Wilderness Survival 7, and Beast Mastery 7. Although, I do have +1 on Strength, but it's only because of my helmet, I might buy another one that'll give me a +1 on Tactics, so meh.