Collector's bow and "noobs".
ibex333
I've been talking to some ignorant ppl in this game who called me a noob, and a f-ing noob, just because I think that the Collector's Bow in mineral Springs with Max damage and +15% above 50% hp is just as good as any super duper golden bow. Think about it. It's same speed as Long bow or somth like that. It got Godly Stats. Especially is I up it with perfect upgrades. I can make the best bow in the game from this baby. So what if it's not yellow, or "GOLD" as ppl who called me a noob poined out. Jeez get a life. Flaming me just cause I said yellow instead of GOLD??? Now if I'm wrong, correct me, and I'll shut up. But if you ignore the GOLD color and the cool looks of storm bows and etc, this collector item is the best you can get IMHO. I think that ppl who called me a noob are REAL noobs. Not me.
pagansaint
Fire Rate is Sub Par 
Other than that, its fine.
Other than that, its fine.
Ensign
Only n00bs use equipment because it's good. The real pros know that this is a game about looking good, not being good.
Duh.
Peace,
-CxE
Duh.
Peace,
-CxE
ibex333
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Originally Posted by Ensign
Only n00bs use equipment because it's good. The real pros know that this is a game about looking good, not being good.
Duh. Peace, -CxE |
That's the silliest thing I ever heared. If you care so much about looking good, why dont you join some dress up show? Or become a fashion designer? This game and all competitive games are about being good. If your ranger look like a dress up doll, and I own you with my collector bow in 5 secs, that dont make you a good dueler does it? Last time I checked GW was about battling and PvPing more that it is about PvE. HOH is where it's all at. Everyone says that. Your cool looks wont help you in win in HOH. Mabe in a beauty contest. But skills, quick reflexes and a good bow will.
Duh.
Peace
PS: oh and off course I agree that skill beats equipment here. But good equip helps.
Vilaptca
....I think that was sarcasm....
ibex333
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Originally Posted by pagansaint
Fire Rate is Sub Par
Other than that, its fine. |
Sub Par??? It's 2 sec or 2.5... that's same as flat or long bow. Is it not?
ibex333
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Originally Posted by Vilaptca
....I think that was sarcasm....
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Ehh.. I suppose I'm not so good in distinguishing sarcasm from someone trying to make me feel stupid. Oh well, if I'm overeacting, I appologise.
Eonwe
Yea, Ensign was just joking. rofl.
Brand Oathbow
I just picked one up like this in the desert. Its got the range 80 range of the Composite or Hornbow category (vs. 100 for longbow/flatbow types and 60 for shortbow). I havent had a chance to really figure out the re-fire rate and flight time yet to narrow it down between the two, but I'm guessing its Composite class.
I usually prefer a longbow for poisoning/pulling, but I went ahead and threw on a 2k poisoners string and a 1-2k +20hp grip and customized it. Average damage for unmoded max damage bow is something around 21.5 points per shot. With +15% for health > 50% and 20% for customization the average pushes up to 29 per shot.
I think this is a deal compared to paying some chump 30k plats for something not as good just because its *GOLD!!!*, plus I had fun hunting up the componets to get it.
Only issue might be, I don't think you can salvage items from collector bows (or is it quest reward weapons? or both?).
I usually prefer a longbow for poisoning/pulling, but I went ahead and threw on a 2k poisoners string and a 1-2k +20hp grip and customized it. Average damage for unmoded max damage bow is something around 21.5 points per shot. With +15% for health > 50% and 20% for customization the average pushes up to 29 per shot.
I think this is a deal compared to paying some chump 30k plats for something not as good just because its *GOLD!!!*, plus I had fun hunting up the componets to get it.
Only issue might be, I don't think you can salvage items from collector bows (or is it quest reward weapons? or both?).
dargon
I believe the collector bow in Mineral Springs is a shortbow isn't it? Meaning high fire rate, low range.
aB-
The collector bow outside Augry Rock is a longbow with the title of Ascalon Bow.
The collector bow in Mineral Springs is a shortbow with the title of Ascalon Bow.
The collector bow in Mineral Springs is a shortbow with the title of Ascalon Bow.
ibex333
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Originally Posted by Brand Oathbow
I just picked one up like this in the desert. Its got the range 80 range of the Composite or Hornbow category (vs. 100 for longbow/flatbow types and 60 for shortbow). I havent had a chance to really figure out the re-fire rate and flight time yet to narrow it down between the two, but I'm guessing its Composite class.
I usually prefer a longbow for poisoning/pulling, but I went ahead and threw on a 2k poisoners string and a 1-2k +20hp grip and customized it. Average damage for unmoded max damage bow is something around 21.5 points per shot. With +15% for health > 50% and 20% for customization the average pushes up to 29 per shot. I think this is a deal compared to paying some chump 30k plats for something not as good just because its *GOLD!!!*, plus I had fun hunting up the componets to get it. No you cannot salvage, i think, but why bother when u can simply replace as many times as u need? Just give it a good thought before putting in anything. Only issue might be, I don't think you can salvage items from collector bows (or is it quest reward weapons? or both?). |
Ahhh... At least someone agrees with me.
Ok ok.. Mabe it's not the best you can have. But with good upgrades, one of the best 4 sure. And it was fun and challenfing obtaining the components for it for me as well.
ibex333
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Originally Posted by aB-
The collector bow outside Augry Rock is a longbow with the title of Ascalon Bow.
The collector bow in Mineral Springs is a shortbow with the title of Ascalon Bow. |
Wow!! thanx a lot man!! Where do you get this info tho??
Bingley Joe
Epiph
why not just go naked
MCS
Why is the Q&A the unofficial bitch about everything forums?
ratatass
There is a bunch of threads on bows, what's good for what and there is even a guide in this sites' homepage with stats on bows etc..
There is also a lot of discussions on what looks good or not as well...
Do a search and find out if you are a noob or not ?
Ratatass
There is also a lot of discussions on what looks good or not as well...
Do a search and find out if you are a noob or not ?
Ratatass
Ender Ward
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Originally Posted by Bingley Joe
Lots of great info HERE
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Some examples:
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| Called Shot, Favorable Winds, Quick Shot (Elite), and Read the Wind will make the Arc size approximately the same as the Low arc of a Composite Bow. |
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| * Damage +1-20% (while health is above 50%) |
The +20% is only for health below 50%.
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| * The two Interrupt preparations, Incindiary Arrows (Elite) and Choking Gas. Both of them have the disadvantage of having short durations, and thus having Practiced Stance (Elite) would be beneficial. |
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| Practiced Stance (Elite) is a way to get more bang for your preparation buck. It lowers the casting time of preparations (meh) and lengthens the duration (yay!). |
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| * Kindle Arrows and Ignite Arrows are similar in scope (adds fire damage). Ignite Arrows does less damage, but applies the damage over an area. Kindle Arrows does more damage and cost less. It is difficult to ponder which one is better, as it is entirely situational. |
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| Practiced Stance (Elite) is ... incompatible with the stances |
Seems the author just looked at skil descriptions, when writing that "FAQ".
MCS
It's out dated. Luckily however since the OP isn't asking any real questions it doesn't matter.
Jenosavel
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The collector bow outside Augry Rock is a longbow with the title of Ascalon Bow. The collector bow in Mineral Springs is a shortbow with the title of Ascalon Bow. |
Just thought I'd mention something, 'cause to me killing Hydras is far easier than killing Avicara. I can do one solo on my ranger (and thus not miss those claw drops), and the other I'm fairly certain would shred me.
Vigilante
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Originally Posted by Ensign
Only n00bs use equipment because it's good. The real pros know that this is a game about looking good, not being good.
Duh. Peace, -CxE |
Personally, I never got collector's items because I thought of them as "cheating", in a way. Getting the best items without having to try is kinda dumb to me. Still, I don't run around flaming that people are noobs for using collector's items. Usually, I think of them as a par above, some of the people get gold because they don't even know about collector's. 
LifeInfusion
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Originally Posted by Ensign
Only n00bs use equipment because it's good. The real pros know that this is a game about looking good, not being good.
Duh. Peace, -CxE |
lol XD
I think collector's is better in most cases, besides melee weapons. I don't recall there being 15>50 axes/swords/hammers.
Jessy
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Originally Posted by aB-
The collector bow outside Augry Rock is a longbow with the title of Ascalon Bow ...
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ICURADik
I think thers two collector bows in mineral springs, one is composite and one is short. Also... gold max items can have min req's of 8, instead of 9, and I believe some have a req of as low as 4 for only 1 off max damage. Nice for powerleveling or use in Ascalon Arena's.
One and Two
Can anyone confirm that the horn bow has a natural 10% armor penetration? I hear rumors from multiple sites, but the actual bows dont say...
Btw...there is a nice looking horn bow out there, but 99,999% are the ugly sticks.
Btw...there is a nice looking horn bow out there, but 99,999% are the ugly sticks.
Skilgannon Oleg
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Crystal Desert -------------- Arid Sea * Sir Pohl Sandbert trades 5 Dune Burrower Jaws for Ascalon Bow 15-28 (req. 9 Marksmanship), +15% damage while Health is above 50% (Longbow) Skyward Reach * John Verado trades 5 Topaz Crests for Ascalon Bow 15-28 (req. 9 Marksmanship), +15% damage while Health is above 50% (Composite bow) (just outside of Augury Rock) * Mourn Drakespur trades 5 Dessicated Hydra Claws for Ascalon Bow 15-28 (req. 9 Marksmanship), +15% damage while Health is above 50% (Short bow) (southwest of Destiny's Gorge) Southern Shiverpeaks -------------------- Lornar's Pass * Nord Stonegrimm trades 5 Frozen Shells for Ascalon Bow 15-28 (req. 9 Marksmanship), +15% damage while Health is above 50% (Longbow) Mineral Springs * Trego Stonebreaker trades 5 Mountain Troll Tusks for Ascalon Bow 15-28 (req. 9 Marksmanship), +15% damage while Health is above 50% (Short bow) * Bariel Darkroot trades 5 Alpine Seeds for Ascalon Bow 15-28 (req. 9 Marksmanship), +15% damage while Health is above 50% (Composite bow) |
So far i have the short bow from Mourn Drakespur, the Composite bow from John Verado and my gf has the longbow from Sir Pohl.
They all work just as well, if not better, than the rest of my bows.
(including 2 short bows and a storm bow)
Itok
FWIW, there is a Defensive Bow of Ascalon with similar properties to the other Ascalon bows and adds +4 armor.
When I bought it, I wasnt told it was a collectors bow and have, unfortunetly seen folks trying to sell the same for 10K+. I don't know anything about the difficulty of collecting said items, but that seems a biut steep to me.
When I bought it, I wasnt told it was a collectors bow and have, unfortunetly seen folks trying to sell the same for 10K+. I don't know anything about the difficulty of collecting said items, but that seems a biut steep to me.
ibex333
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Originally Posted by Skilgannon Oleg
They are all the collector bows with damage over 50%hp.
So far i have the short bow from Mourn Drakespur, the Composite bow from John Verado and my gf has the longbow from Sir Pohl. They all work just as well, if not better, than the rest of my bows. (including 2 short bows and a storm bow) |
Thanx a lot 4 the info
hotspur
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Originally Posted by Itok
FWIW, there is a Defensive Bow of Ascalon with similar properties to the other Ascalon bows and adds +4 armor.
When I bought it, I wasnt told it was a collectors bow and have, unfortunetly seen folks trying to sell the same for 10K+. I don't know anything about the difficulty of collecting said items, but that seems a biut steep to me. |
10k? holy cow, maybe im just a nice guy, but I never charge more than 1.5k for a max dmg collectors weapon, a lot less to my guildies. There are some greedy ppl out there.
John Waffletord
i have the 3 different 15>50 bows from the desert.. I like them because 15>50 gold bows are like 50k+
I'd rather spend 40k on a superior vigor or something.
I'd rather spend 40k on a superior vigor or something.