Help Stop Scammers!

Tur713

Tur713

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Pink Animal Clan

E/Me

Okay, plenty of people have been scammed in the process of playing Guild Wars. Now instead of making accusations here and there, why don't we make a thread to post and investigate scammers? If I can get a team willing to help me find scammers we can do this. If you want to help me investigate, send me a PM. If you have a scammer that you've ran into post it here. Confirmed scammers will be posted on this post in BOLD.

EDIT: It might also help to note where they usually stick around and what they do. Thanks again.

Barazur

Barazur

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Arcana Animi [ARAN] (Currently recruiting)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tur713
Okay, plenty of people have been scammed in the process of playing Guild Wars. Now instead of making accusations here and there, why don't we make a thread to post and investigate scammers? If I can get a team willing to help me find scammers we can do this. If you want to help me investigate, send me a PM. If you have a scammer that you've ran into post it here. Confirmed scammers will be posted on this post in BOLD.
Scammers i know personally:

Chasseur De Cendre (EU server)
Dadillo il diavolo (EU server)


Not sure about these 2 others i put in ignore:
Lord Tokugawa
Ragnar the Vengeful

jenna mysti

jenna mysti

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Run Storage

capitalist

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

If you are going to post names, you should have screen shots to back up your claim, otherwise....don't post.

derrtyboy69

derrtyboy69

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Clouds

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/Me

Blue Foxer, Mr Baby Feeg. i dont ahve SS but they are so well known i dont think i need much evidence

Tur713

Tur713

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Pink Animal Clan

E/Me

Like I said, it's hard to verify them if I have no idea where they are or what they do.

SoiL

SoiL

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

SE

Mo/W

just woundering but how will this stop them? all it will do is let there name be known for scamming and they can easyly make a new char...

Tur713

Tur713

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Pink Animal Clan

E/Me

I can't stop them, but they can be found and confirmed on this forum. I'm just doing what I can to help.

Barazur

Barazur

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Arcana Animi [ARAN] (Currently recruiting)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by capitalist
If you are going to post names, you should have screen shots to back up your claim, otherwise....don't post.
I dont have screenshots, but the 2 guys i put in bold scammed me and other ppl and are known.

Jakz

Jakz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Atlanta, GA

Mo/

How did the 4 players mentioned in the thread scam? Kinda hard to be scammed in this game if you are paying attention. And there is always a chance to get scammed on a run.

SoiL

SoiL

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

SE

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanky
If you take some screen shots to prove your claim that they are infact scammers, go to guildwars.com -> support -> sign up (quick) -> report them, and attach SS.

Anet bans scammers.
but surely that cant work... u can just get out some 1337 photoshop skills and get some one u hate banned...

lord_shar

lord_shar

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

near SF, CA

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoiL
but surely that cant work... u can just get out some 1337 photoshop skills and get some one u hate banned...
Most MMORPG servers keep logs to verify screen shot "evidence." At least this was the case with SOE's EQ. There's no reason why ANET can't do the same with GW, especially given how cheap RAID-5 arrays run these days.

PS: If you ever try getting someone banned this way, it'll probably backfire without your account in ANET's crosshairs.

ty3c

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

ANGEL TYRAEL

OR ITS ANGEL TYREAL

he scammed me once.

ap0c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

[YUM]

Mo/Me

FIRE YOU

bought my 6 ecto's for 58gold ...
Temple of the Ages

One moment of not paying attention and whammo "scammed"
Reported him

It sucks that you dont know if Anet did something.

Legendary Lubbie

Legendary Lubbie

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Duth Royal Assassins

W/Mo

Chasseur De Cendre


but he is reported here already!!

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

Why don't you people say what happened rather than just saying "so and so scammed me" In most cases that I've heard of it is just as much the fault of the person who thinks they were scammed for not paying attention and in some other cases honest mistakes really do take place. This seems more like a place for people to make baseless allegations against people for whatever reasons that you might be mad at someone for. Post how you were scammed and let us decide who was to blame???

Lord Kibinto

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

i had the same thing that happened to ap0c happen to me, traded 4 ectos for 36 gold >< sux when ur tired and not paying attention. the guy who scammed me is MADAM WAFFLES

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by ap0c
FIRE YOU

bought my 6 ecto's for 58gold ...
Temple of the Ages

One moment of not paying attention and whammo "scammed"
Reported him

It sucks that you dont know if Anet did something.
This is a perfect example for my previous post. You must agree to the sale before any trade takes place do you not? So if you didn't pay attention to what he had offered then don't you have some responseablitly in this? Why would Anet have done something about about you being unhappy with the outcome of a trade that you agreed to and accepted?

ap0c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

[YUM]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by sixdartbart
This is a perfect example for my previous post. You must agree to the sale before any trade takes place do you not? So if you didn't pay attention to what he had offered then don't you have some responseablitly in this? Why would Anet have done something about about you being unhappy with the outcome of a trade that you agreed to and accepted?
This was intended, fine for me if you find these kind of actions normal. For now on I to will try to to pull this also on everyone I come across.
Where will it end...

Mosch

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/Mo

Someone tried to scam me yesterday. I am not going to post a name and I don't have a screenshot, but I will post the basic, simple principle...

The scammer announced that he wanted to buy "2 bottles of silver dye for 1,5P". I agreed to sell and in the trade window, he offered 1P 5G. I told him that he had made a mistake and he answered that he thought "1,5P" meant 1P, 5G and that it's basically the same. Using my 1337 mathematics skill, I convinced him that 1500 > 1005. His excuse was "A friend gave it to me and told me to sell it for 1,5P". Yes. Whatever. I have no idea what you are talking about. He then informed me that he did not have enough money to pay 1500 gold (which I don't believe, based on his level...).
Of course the trade did not happen, but after some minutes then very same person once again announced that he would buy "2 bottles of silver dye for 1,5P".... I intervened and corrected him publicly, making him leave the district.

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by ap0c
This was intended, fine for me if you find these kind of actions normal. For now on I to will try to to pull this also on everyone I come across.
Where will it end...
Why can you not take any of the blame in this? Do you just not understand my point or is it impossible that anything could be your fault? I do alot of trades for many types of things and have people try these and many other lame scams all the time just like the example that Mosch just posted. They always say it was an honest mistake and I always refuse to sell to them after that but if I EVER excepted a trade for less money then what I wanted it would be just as much my fault as anything for not paying attention! So you're solution now is to go and act like the people that you are here bitching about? That really makes sense

ap0c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

[YUM]

Mo/Me

I know its my fault too, but you say its fine what this person did....

This is still scamming...

Batius

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

England

Sons of Evil

W/Mo

Scammers can be stopped if you simply pay attention, and if the trader starts arguing about, for example, the lack of his mathematical skills (e.g 1.5k = 1500) then cancel the trade and leave him be. The only way I can see that people can scam is by changing the trade window and hitting accept before you notice, in which case its as much your fault for not paying attention as it is his for being an out right ass. If theres another way to scam other than changing whats in the trade window, I'd like to know so I know what to avoid.
Thanks

Srt_Hitman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Seraphim Knights

W/N

Not paying attention was my downfall aswell. I lost 50K......... i wanted to buy an axe so i went to storage to see some one and got shown a couple. I said i wanted one of them he canceled. then opend a new window looked the same gold axe. But it wasnt and it wasnt worth 50k. I said to him you have give me the worng one.He said sorry to late it is sold. he doest respond to me anymore.

RUBIT GUNNER - Lions Arch english dis1

Just incase

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by ap0c
I know its my fault too, but you say its fine what this person did....

This is still scamming...
Where the hell did I ever say this was fine? Please show me because I sure don't remember ever saying that. If this is how you do everything by just making stuff up then I think we can all understand how credible your claims of being scammed are as well... and before you post anything else here either show where I said it was fine for someone to do this or apologize to me for making shit up...

Wraparound

Wraparound

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Cleveland, OH

Mo/E

I'm not sure where this thread is going. But this is not a issue of scamming. Just simply a way that more experienced players take advantage of the lesser ones.

Take your time, look at the transaction, make sure you know that 1p = 1,000g.

And if your not sure the value of something go to the traders and find out first.

Bigdude

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Mo

ppl been scammed its cuz of urself u cant be scam by trade unless u dont payin attention to the other guy