The Woes of FoW Armour

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Finally earned the ecto and shards required for the two Fissure of Woe pieces that I set out to get a while back. But since I've acquired them, a lot of things have changed for the worse.

Firstly, people assume you are rich naturally. Today I had a fellow open the trade window with my in Droknars without warning. He didn't say anything until I opened the conversation. It went like this:

"Can I help you?"
"I need gold for my armour here"
"How much?"
"Uhh, I need 6k for the 4 pieces I need"
"Okay sure"
"Thanks"

Harmless enough, but then he keeps talking. He wants me to buy him the materials as well. I offer to buy him the wyvern armour because scales are cheap but he already bought the platemail helm and insists that I buy him the remaining 4 pieces. I gave him the materials and told him he should really learn to not to exploit the kindness of others.

Same day, sitting around in camp. Guy starts looking at my armour and starts calling me fat (which I can expect naturally). A fellow guildmate was with me at the time and told the guy to shutup. At which point, a few others join in saying "gay and fat, that guild must suck" or something along those lines.

My farming routine is becoming an annoyance as well. Yes I know, why am I still farming if I have the armour but I do have a guild to worry about. I'm getting whispers from people asking for help, blind invites and just the occasional person trying to get a look.

Going to the FoW hasn't been all that dandy either. I am getting more invites which is nice, but the groups haven't been stellar. I'm the last to receive healing since everyone seems to assume that I'm invincible, and when I do die the noobish comments come.

It's nice that in other player's minds that I'm not a noobish w/mo wielding a sword and casting healing hands + mending... but if I want peace and quiet I have to make refuge in the international guilds. Anyone else out there regreting the effort they put into achieving this milestone?

Gustav Gloomp

Gustav Gloomp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Sydney, Australia

same things like that hav happened to me too. i feel ur pain.

thekolman

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
My farming routine is becoming an annoyance as well. Yes I know, why am I still farming if I have the armour but I do have a guild to worry about. I'm getting whispers from people asking for help, blind invites and just the occasional person trying to get a look.
Oh noes.

ayb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

WTS SOUL PST

Order of the Fly

Mo/R

don't help people then complaina bout it. help people for the good feeling you get from helping them, or don't.

john little

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

UK, EU Server

And All That Could Have Been [AATC]

E/Mo

The problems you are getting are the result of the main way of getting fissure armour being via massive amounts of gold rather than skill. As such all it really says is that you are rich and waste your money/time on stuff that has no tangible benefit. Mix that in with a little envy and it's no suprise that the reaction you receive is perhaps less than you expected.

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

I think it depends on the class you are playing as to how you are treated.
My mesmer character's fissure armor actually helps me get into decent groups wheres as before I would struggle to get into the most rushing of PuG's.

A large part of the the appeal of GW is the people side of things. Other mesmers PM me and chat and it's a great way to meet, play and get to know people. I've also met up with other guys with FoW armor(see screenshot forum) and it's increased my enjoyment no end.

Although I suspect fissure armor on a EU server mesmer is rarer than on the US/Korea ones so the novelty value is quite high.

My ongoing nightmare with my fissure armor, is that when swapping it out I accidentally salvage it

salja Wachi

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Chicago

the Bleeding Edge

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by john little
The problems you are getting are the result of the main way of getting fissure armour being via massive amounts of gold rather than skill. As such all it really says is that you are rich and waste your money/time on stuff that has no tangible benefit. Mix that in with a little envy and it's no suprise that the reaction you receive is perhaps less than you expected.

FoW armor is meant as a gold sink. that is the whole point of it. without it the price of everything else would be almost untouchable for most players.

gold sinks are a way of keeping the econoly under control.

Teufel Eldritch

Teufel Eldritch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Shadar Logoth

The Legendary Majestic 12

N/

Don't give money to bums! All it does it perpuate the behavior.

Xonic

Xonic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Racthoh, meet me in Ascalon, Dis 1 by storage, 7pm pst please. I need some money and whatever material you have. kk, pls, c u there.

zehly

zehly

Sunshine

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Wired

Daughters of Ananke

Mo/E

People that see you with FoW armor look up to you, because they *assume* (and I do not judge the legitimacy of this assumption) that you have played for a long time and are experienced.

ZeR04U

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

None

R/Me

1.5 million or so (in materials for FOW armor). What a waste. Since you buy FOW armor for the 'oooh, ahhh' effect, I would much rather spend my time on something with the same effect; actual use. For example, for 1.5 million I could probably go buy a 15%>50 sephis axe, or nice chaos axe. Once I get those, there are shields, other swords, etc. Something with a true purpose.

15K armor is a point to me. Something that looks neat enough to warrant a purchase. But I heard that the 1.5K armor looks pretty cool for female warriors, so I might just buy that and not get 15K armor. As of now I have 992 plat and 239 ectos. Do I want FOW armor? hell no.

Sentinel

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Somerset, NJ

aB

Racthoh,

The guy at Droknars took you for a ride. He was propably run there
and that might explain why he had no money to buy a 6k armor.
I mean by the time you reach the forge, following the story, you should
have way more than that.

Also, I'm willing to bet he had no idea what kind of armor you were wearing.
You probably looked different enough to him that he thought you were an NPC That might explain why he said nothing when he opened the trade window with you....
I don't know guys but I find this more likely than someone random come up to me and ask me to give him money for his armor. Well...I wasn't there so I don't know.

Sent.-

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

Fissure on warriors now seems dime-a-dozen. I go to LA d1 and see at least 4 at a time...

Sandman Uk

Sandman Uk

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Uk Leicester

N/R

You wait till you see the new Sorrows Armour

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman Uk
You wait till you see the new Sorrows Armour
Ummmm.... huh? What?

OK... what materials do we need to stockpile!

Sandman Uk

Sandman Uk

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Uk Leicester

N/R

Bring me them ???? Slippers jahahahah (Wizard Of Oz)

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

One more reason why I am not getting FoW armor for any of my characters.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Well, that was a gem of a clue, albeit rather simple...

Maiyn

Maiyn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Canada

I Excentrix I [PuNK]

I bought FoW armor because my gold in storage was maxed out, and I had two of my chars holding 100k. So basically. I couldn't TRADE anymore b/c I was rich and bored to death.

I only bought two pieces, and I dunno. I find most people don't really notice at all. I prefer the fow to my old saintly armor (mostly b/c of the buggy look when she is sitting down, very lame and funny) and I finally had some more room for gold. It was a win win situation

It's definitely not like I was going to continue to trade in crafting items like ecto, or black dye (all i will take is rubies/sapphires now) after that trader reset. Noooo wayy....

I can't wait for sorrows armor. I reaaaally hope the ele armor is nice. Otherwise I will be very sad.

(actually tho, someone called me an ugly little monk, in ugly fissure armor.. and I giggled a bit)

Soul Shaker

Soul Shaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Soul Crusaders

Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
Ummmm.... huh? What?

OK... what materials do we need to stockpile!

Well, if there's new stuff...then sapphires and rubies will probably come into use.

The Hated

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh

It's nice that in other player's minds that I'm not a noobish w/mo wielding a sword and casting healing hands + mending... but if I want peace and quiet I have to make refuge in the international guilds. Anyone else out there regreting the effort they put into achieving this milestone?

You are using a Sword and are wondeirng why ppl are calling u a noob?

Network

Network

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

YOU GUYS ARE STUPID! The update will have items,skills and quests. THERE WILL BE NO NEW ARMOR!

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Network
YOU GUYS ARE STUPID! The update will have items,skills and quests. THERE WILL BE NO NEW ARMOR!
Prove it.

Grigori Sokolov

Grigori Sokolov

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
I think it depends on the class you are playing as to how you are treated.
My mesmer character's fissure armor actually helps me get into decent groups wheres as before I would struggle to get into the most rushing of PuG's.

A large part of the the appeal of GW is the people side of things. Other mesmers PM me and chat and it's a great way to meet, play and get to know people. I've also met up with other guys with FoW armor(see screenshot forum) and it's increased my enjoyment no end.

Although I suspect fissure armor on a EU server mesmer is rarer than on the US/Korea ones so the novelty value is quite high.

My ongoing nightmare with my fissure armor, is that when swapping it out I accidentally salvage it

*sigh* I remember when it used to be like that for us monks--you know: when monks healed. It was a great sense of community to be a healer back then, because no one wanted to heal. Ohh well, back to grind some more: ill get that +5 insightful staff and 20% enchanting upgrade someday

Greygon

Greygon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Arkansas

Knights of the Republic (KOTR)

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hated
You are using a Sword and are wondeirng why ppl are calling u a noob?

Oh please.. I have been playing since the first BWE and I use a sword... am I a NOOB also? You are being a perfect example of what a NOOB is like by making comments like that. Actually, worse than a NOOB.... a 14 yr old.

Apathetic

Apathetic

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu

Ying And Yang [YAY]

W/Mo

In PVE Swords are actually one of the best weapons to weild. Considering the conditions it puts on monsters. I did get a comment
"Hammers > Sword Noob" and I use Hammers all the time in Pvp but when i gave it a shot in PVE it doesnt do all much than knock down. With a slow hit rate it becomes a problem. The Bleeding / Deep Wound is handy especially in FoW significantly increasing the damage of swords.

I would also like to say, Racthoh wasnt mad about that one incident, as he mentioned there were a serise of incidents with his new FoW that got him mad. So lets try not to blame anyone here.

I'm still interested in the Sorrow's Furnace armor, hmm is there a thread up about it?

Amused Observer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Just purely speculation on my part, but it'll be really funny if there will be a new SF armor set out, requiring loads and loads of rubies and sapphires. Like where are people gonna get them on a regular basis?

Network

Network

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Sorrow's Furnace offers two large, explorable regions: Grenth's Footprint and Sorrow's Furnace. These regions will provide exciting new high-level content to Guild Wars players, and will offer new quests, new monsters, new items, and more. For characters who have completed their ascension in Guild Wars, these areas will provide new opportunities for exploration and reward.

Haha!

Theos

Theos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

River Dancing

Eternal Treachery [TimE]

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Network
Sorrow's Furnace offers two large, explorable regions: Grenth's Footprint and Sorrow's Furnace. These regions will provide exciting new high-level content to Guild Wars players, and will offer new quests, new monsters, new items, and more. For characters who have completed their ascension in Guild Wars, these areas will provide new opportunities for exploration and reward.

Haha!
What does this prove? Armour is items... and it says and more. I don't get it.

Rubies and Saphires are dropped everywhere in later Tyria. I have had them drop from things like devourers to mergoyles. I have seen them in UW and FoW. They are simply rarer than ectos and shards.

Spartan2

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

The Intarweb

Wrath of Nature [WoN]

E/Mo

All of this is purely speculation. No one is correct in this argument because no one has proof. Therefore, cease and desist in your argument until the 7th has arrived or a Press release from ArenaNet comes out and specifically lists everything being added. No one knows for sure either way, so don't argue about an indefinite thing.

Andy of Glacieria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

pD-Paladins of the Dark

W/Mo

Right, I only read the OP and none of the others so I'm just gonna respond to you. I had (and wasted rofl) quite alot (won't give any numbers). That resulted in some commodities that are "quite expensive." However I gave a lot of $ away and can still mark myself poor. I often hide those things. If I feel like bragging I use the "cool stuff," if I don't I use cheap but well working replacements. So buy replacement armor. Be invisible. Between mates and a rare few that get to see u in ur armor u can still be that generous self and get that good feeling. Oh and the 6 k dude probably didn't need any armor, he just wanted to show u that all FoW users are... and that he owns because he fooled a fissure armor guy and now he's smart. I want the armor as well, I admit, and I don't give too much of a damn "he's a noobish idiot" comment-wise.

coleslawdressin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Victory on Demand [VoD]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teufel Eldritch
Don't give money to bums! All it does it perpuate the behavior.
/agree

I would have publicly humiliated the beggar to the best of my ability. Be ashamed that you handed over so much to a random loser.

PS I hate plain black armor

black/black/black/silver is the real mercedes-benz of dyes

nechronius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Southern Cali

Herald of the Storm

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartan2
All of this is purely speculation. No one is correct in this argument because no one has proof. Therefore, cease and desist in your argument until the 7th has arrived or a Press release from ArenaNet comes out and specifically lists everything being added. No one knows for sure either way, so don't argue about an indefinite thing.
Have they even finished all of the FoW armor sets yet for every class and every sex? I would think that would play in as a major factor on whether we get a new armor area or not.

coleslawdressin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Victory on Demand [VoD]

Me/Mo

fow armor looks the same no matter if you mix and match.. i dont think that will ever change.. it is the only (slight) advantage you can get out of spending more than the 1.5k sets

myword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Korea

i wear my droknars armor usually. i only switch to Fissure armor to enlarge my e-Penis.
also, just ignore beggars

coleslawdressin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Victory on Demand [VoD]

Me/Mo

thank you for sharing

villain71

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

having fi armor means you have no life.. noooooo life noooooooo life that you can grind and grind to get it.. nooooooooooo life whatsoever....so now that you have that awesome armor what have you really accomplished in life?? exactly....none.

what a shame.

Kampfkeks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by villain71
having fi armor means you have no life.. noooooo life noooooooo life that you can grind and grind to get it.. nooooooooooo life whatsoever....so now that you have that awesome armor what have you really accomplished in life?? exactly....none.

what a shame.
What a disgrace for mankind you are. You might consider removing your DNA from the genpool.

It is people like you that make me laugh all so often. Who said that you need that armor all for yourself and fight for it all yourself? I have like 12 ectos. 6 of which i've gotten as a gift from friends who don't want the armor and 2 of the others i've gotten because a friend wants to help me getting the armor first. I'll help him afterwards. So where is the insanely huge grind here again? It is nonsense.

Why do people allways love to say "the one who has this item is the ubernerd with no life". That is bullshit. You know, dear Genpool Disease, there are such things as friend or having fun while exploring places. Yes exploring the underworld can take up to 5-6 hours if you're going all the way but thats 5-6 hours of fun. So what? Other people are sitting 10 hours a day in front of their TV. So wtf is so wrong about having a little ACTIVE fun now and then instead of passively sitting around.

Another funny thing is, those nerdscreamers are complaining in an internet forum. Kinda... schizo

Shadowdaemon

Shadowdaemon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Anderson IN USA

Ecks Di [xD]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by villain71
having fi armor means you have no life.. noooooo life noooooooo life that you can grind and grind to get it.. nooooooooooo life whatsoever....so now that you have that awesome armor what have you really accomplished in life?? exactly....none.

what a shame.

thats funny, i am engaged, work full time, and can still farm enough to get fissure armor, so i guess your just a hater that cant figure out a solo build

Nightsorrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Servants of Fortuna

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by nechronius
Have they even finished all of the FoW armor sets yet for every class and every sex? I would think that would play in as a major factor on whether we get a new armor area or not.
They haven't even finished all the Marhans + Granite 15k's to my knowledge, Tormentors is missing for sure?