55 Monks!!!
Lukoi
umm...i think that they should change the monk skill Protective Bond back to the way it was...i just spent 100k on my monk... the that skill gets changed and now he is useless...and extreemly boring to play as... anyone else feel the same way? well, i think they shou;d change back protective bond to its origional effects...i meen, i can still do stuff with him, it just takes alot more time, and it is much more difficult...
Rhunex
The 55 monk build isnt ruined. My friend has one, and he can still solo most of UW as before. They made it useless in PvP, not PvE.
Lukoi
ya, i guess...but it would still be alot better if they changed it back to the way it was be4...but o well, i guess i can live with the changes.
EmperorTippy
NO. If you can't figuire out how to make it work without protective bond then you deserve to not be able to solo UW smites and aataxes. Comeone people stop copying other peoples builds. Use some imagination it isn't THAT hard to comeup with a build that can do a solo smite tun. *Hint* You have to be part monk and not a W/MO or a ranger with some secondary (a lot ahrder with a ranger though)
Lukoi
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Originally Posted by EmperorTippy
NO. If you can't figuire out how to make it work without protective bond then you deserve to not be able to solo UW smites and aataxes. Comeone people stop copying other peoples builds. Use some imagination it isn't THAT hard to comeup with a build that can do a solo smite tun. *Hint* You have to be part monk and not a W/MO or a ranger with some secondary (a lot ahrder with a ranger though)
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IPlayGuildWars
I am almost 950% positive you can do it with an E/Mo.
Lukoi
really, an E/Mo? ive never seen one do that.. cool, i didnt know that, im gonna go try it out... but the only problem it might have, is not being able to have all the monk Sup runes... wich might make it EXTREEMLY difficult for an ele to actually do it, but im still gonna look into it...
zehly
I call this the NAPAANPB: Not another post about anet nerfing protective bond. Get over it dude. Protective bond was nerfed to keep YOU and only YOU out of UW, and so far, it's working.
*hint* Protective Spirit, Mending....
*hint* Protective Spirit, Mending....
One and Two
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Originally Posted by EmperorTippy
NO. If you can't figuire out how to make it work without protective bond then you deserve to not be able to solo UW smites and aataxes. Comeone people stop copying other peoples builds. Use some imagination it isn't THAT hard to comeup with a build that can do a solo smite tun. *Hint* You have to be part monk and not a W/MO or a ranger with some secondary (a lot ahrder with a ranger though)
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edit: well actually a W/Mo can do UW, be creative
EmperorTippy
^^
Well I havent been able to overcome the energy problems with a W/Mo but it may be possible and I just havent found it.
I can do a smite run solo with an E/Mo, a Me/Mo (Is pretty hard to do this for me but still possible), a Ne/Mo, a Ne/R, and a R/N (It can also be done with a R/El and maybe some others but I haven't really tried with anything else so.)
Well I havent been able to overcome the energy problems with a W/Mo but it may be possible and I just havent found it.
I can do a smite run solo with an E/Mo, a Me/Mo (Is pretty hard to do this for me but still possible), a Ne/Mo, a Ne/R, and a R/N (It can also be done with a R/El and maybe some others but I haven't really tried with anything else so.)
ManadartheHealer
My advice: Be creative
Syno Nym
Zehli please edit the end of your post, your giving them the whole solution and I don't want to see "55hp monks strike back"... 
EmperorTippy
Note: I can still solo a smite run with every single character that I could pre nerf.
Ultimate_Gaara
no, 55 monks were lame, much like d2 runewords they made people invincable and totaly ruined the game.. personaly i was getting sick of seeing Mo/W everywhere i go
Robos Stavanis
rethink your skill bar........might find something that allows you to do much the same thing.
Tactical-Dillusions
I'm glad i got a short fraps of myself soloing the griffons in glorious fashion while we could.
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No more skill points every half hour *sigh*.
[Saved to disk for a trip down memory lane in the future
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Age
Hey Jelly can do it anyone can.
SlY_DeMoN
I really don't care since your a solo monk. Some people like to make other builds, but not you, Oh no that would be to hard. This is where the "skill" part of the game comes in.
Theos
People are being stupid about why the skill was nerfed. It was not nerfed due to PvE or the monk build, if it was they would have also nerfed spirit or just some odd combination of the skills to make the build inifective. Prot Bond was nerfed because it was a remove or lose enchantment, which had no real counter except being removed, it never wore out, the energy loss of 2 could be managed by monks and even eles (hint eles can also recast until they get 13 prot at which point it would have cost only 2 energy). The only way to counter it was a removal, at which point it could be thrown back on, so it was infact the "You are invicible now" skill. The skill needed to be nerfed, along with it smite needs to be nerfed or the ele lines need to be buffed... alot.
Also the skill is completly usable in PvP, it is just no longer with only one counter but with two, either remove or beat until it falls off.
Also the skill is completly usable in PvP, it is just no longer with only one counter but with two, either remove or beat until it falls off.
Traps
im looking for a good farmer/uw runner...can someone pm with a build?
momo2oo2
You can do with E/Mo, 4 sup water runes (cheaper ones xD) and 1 sup energy storage, the rest is up to you. Much slower, but it works. Now its almost 4 minutes to kill 3 aatxes so I'll stick to Hydras, i can do 10-12 of them in 1 minute since I start damaging them.
EDIT: I'm not interested in Fissure armor, so I don't mind about ectos, and I dont really need [more] money so the gold drops from the Hydras are more interesting.
EDIT: I'm not interested in Fissure armor, so I don't mind about ectos, and I dont really need [more] money so the gold drops from the Hydras are more interesting.
Age
There is a good skill from presearing that will help instead of protective bond.It is called good ole reversal of fortune I was testing it tonight agianst the fire Imps and tengu in Kryta just north of LA and it worked out good.I only brought Thom,Stefan and Reyna with me just 3 henchies and was spamming it on Stefan and Thom worked pretty well.I remeber useing agianst the charr at level 6 around Piken.This will axxtxass(sp) off of you give it a try.
Akimb0
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Originally Posted by Lukoi
umm...i think that they should change the monk skill Protective Bond back to the way it was...i just spent 100k on my monk... the that skill gets changed and now he is useless...and extreemly boring to play as... anyone else feel the same way? well, i think they shou;d change back protective bond to its origional effects...i meen, i can still do stuff with him, it just takes alot more time, and it is much more difficult...
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Hippie Crack
Lukoi use your head man. Also dont make stupid comments like monks are the only class that can solo UW. I've said it a million times that even W/R's can solo UW.....not just smites but pretty much the entire thing. They dont rely on any enchants whatsoever. Also the new 55 monk builds are much much faster at solo'n than the old prot bond ones were.
Lukoi
im so amazed..........
Xue Yi Liang
If you've only just completed your 55 monk then you're out of luck in using that build. People who have already been using the 55 monk probably have offset the cost of the build with whatever farming they've been able to do with it.
The farming monk is far from useless, though. The 55 monk soloer is only one way to solo farm. There are plenty others (even though the 55 and it's variations were best for the UW).
The farming monk is far from useless, though. The 55 monk soloer is only one way to solo farm. There are plenty others (even though the 55 and it's variations were best for the UW).
GreatLich
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Originally Posted by Xue Yi Liang
If you've only just completed your 55 monk then you're out of luck in using that build. People who have already been using the 55 monk probably have offset the cost of the build with whatever farming they've been able to do with it.
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Weezer_Blue
I knew there would be bitching no matter what they did on the issue. The 55/105 builds still work. Try not copying your builds from forums such as these and getting innovative and making it work for yourself. IMO, they should switch everything up every few weeks to throw off Flavor of the Month players that don't know how to make a build for themselves.
Kai Nui
55 monk = all players who aren't skilled
only acception is the genius who created it.
only acception is the genius who created it.
uziel
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55 monk = all players who aren't skilled
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slasc
They shouldn't have to nerf skills to change the "template of the month".
If they are then they are admitting design flaws and exposing themselves to deeper ones. They should have just added mesmers to UW.
If they are then they are admitting design flaws and exposing themselves to deeper ones. They should have just added mesmers to UW.
Xue Yi Liang
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Originally Posted by slasc
They should have just added mesmers to UW.
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nailz
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55 monk = all players who aren't skilled
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so you have no idea what you're talking about?
the 105/85/55 idea is used in a number of different builds...so only the person that originally thought of the idea to stack runes is intelligent?
The One True Mango
I'm sorry to sound like a |\|008, but what exactly is UW, and what is this 105/85/55 thing?
And BTW, its exception, not acception.
And BTW, its exception, not acception.
OneArmedScissor
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Originally Posted by Lukoi
umm...i think that they should change the monk skill Protective Bond back to the way it was...i just spent 100k on my monk... the that skill gets changed and now he is useless...and extreemly boring to play as... anyone else feel the same way? well, i think they shou;d change back protective bond to its origional effects...i meen, i can still do stuff with him, it just takes alot more time, and it is much more difficult...
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yesitsrob
The fact protective bond nerf has made it harder for you to solo suggests Anet are heading in the right direction, the Underworld isn't intended to be solo'd, I don't think they'd approve of people getting 6 or however many ectoplasms in such a short space of time. I suppose that's partially their fault by thinking making enemies hit for 200'ish will make things harder, when they should know a lot of the monks protective skills help against it... they need to throw a few mesmers in there