01 Sep 2005 at 16:06 - 6
IAS = increased attack speed
And this makes me laugh:
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but against the non-stupid, who are few,
Wished that were true... lol.
01 Sep 2005 at 17:10 - 7
I run into far more idiots than real skilled players in this game. With the way this game is easy to access. You can't count how many healing magic W/Mo's are out there.
You should know there's more people who don't know what's going playing than knowledgable people who ask... 
01 Sep 2005 at 17:35 - 8
i still highly doubt you can do a real 'energy denial' with just one person using fear me. i mean cmon, you will make him lose like 1 energy every.. 5 seconds? if you manage to hit ? (arent blinded, etc). i just dont see how thats going to work with 1 tank using it. maybe with like 4-5. but just one is a bit... useless. imo.
01 Sep 2005 at 18:04 - 9
Echo [e]
Fear me!
For Great Justice!
Beserker Stance
To The Limit!
Flurry
Imagined Burden
Shields Up!
and a sword.
01 Sep 2005 at 18:20 - 10
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Originally Posted by rii
Echo [e]
Fear me!
For Great Justice!
Beserker Stance
To The Limit!
Flurry
Imagined Burden
Shields Up!
and a sword.
And R/W with cyclone axe plus the shouts (minus shields up) would be much more effective energy-wise. Imagined burden on a sword warrior? Ugh.
01 Sep 2005 at 18:48 - 11
It's debatably better than Hamstring, but the duration doesn't increase without diverging into illusion magic.
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i still highly doubt you can do a real 'energy denial' with just one person using fear me. i mean cmon, you will make him lose like 1 energy every.. 5 seconds? if you manage to hit ? (arent blinded, etc). i just dont see how thats going to work with 1 tank using it. maybe with like 4-5. but just one is a bit... useless. imo.
Calm down. Fear me at level 10 will remove 3 energy from all adjacent foes.
Yukito, I think you should add some form of IAS or faster adrenal charge in that build. You can, perhaps, add it in Sprint's stead. Axe Twist should suffice.
01 Sep 2005 at 19:00 - 12
[QUOTE=Enigmatics]Calm down. Fear me at level 10 will remove 3 energy from all adjacent foes.
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The problem comes with the adrenaline recharge time, and the enemy's Energy regen. Effectively 3 energy means very little (in my experience -- I so wanted this skill to be worth while) since at 4 pips, it is regained in what? 1.5 seconds? And you can't cast again until you build up adrenaline.
If you increase your attack speed, or double adrenaline on attack, you charge faster, and can do better than break even.
When on a team build with 3+ warriors using this together, it works fantastic. But alone, I haven't been able to put a dent in the enemy's reserve with this. I find it's more effective to make him waste 5 energy on things that won't work, like blinding me.
01 Sep 2005 at 19:19 - 13
Um... that's a valid point? I myself despise Fear Me spammers, so I don't really want to disagree with you. I don't think Yukito is concentrating soley on Fear Me, or he'd have put Echo in ViM's stead. I'm pretty sure he just thought that Fear Me would compliment a ViM build nicely.
01 Sep 2005 at 23:24 - 14
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Originally Posted by Enigmatics
Calm down. Fear me at level 10 will remove 3 energy from all adjacent foes.
heehee i need to go read the descriptions again 
anyway, even at 3 this warrior relies heavily on a fast adrenaline boost, im thinking an r/w could be better energy-wise (spamming tf and all that jazz). otoh, plague signet might keep you unblinded. either way i think its going to be really tough to actually do a good energy denial. (for the same reasons i mentioned)
02 Sep 2005 at 01:31 - 15
Every warrior build should start out with a few things:
16 weapon attribute
Frenzy
Sprint
You're missing 2/3 of those things.
You also don't need 10 curses for a rend, 2 would do just fine. You also don't need 10 tactics, like someone previously stated before the breakpoints for fear me are 8, and 13. I'm also not a huge fan of plague touch, especially given the current tombs metagame which seems to be smiting obviously. Also wasting your elite on victory is mine when you can bring something like eviscerate is just nonsense.
So, my suggestions would be
Frenzy in for Plague Touch.
Eviscerate in for Victory is Mine.
Executioner's in for Dismember.
Pump axe to 16.
Drop curses down to 2, tactics to 7(+1), and put those points into axe/strength.
Also possibly cyclone axe instead of axe rake for extra adrenaline gain, especially on dias maps
Edit: Just on a side note I'd like to throw in that I absolutely love fear me.
02 Sep 2005 at 05:49 - 16
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Originally Posted by Eonwe
Every warrior build should start out with a few things:
16 weapon attribute
Frenzy
Sprint
You're missing 2/3 of those things.
You also don't need 10 curses for a rend, 2 would do just fine. You also don't need 10 tactics, like someone previously stated before the breakpoints for fear me are 8, and 13. I'm also not a huge fan of plague touch, especially given the current tombs metagame which seems to be smiting obviously. Also wasting your elite on victory is mine when you can bring something like eviscerate is just nonsense.
So, my suggestions would be
Frenzy in for Plague Touch.
Eviscerate in for Victory is Mine.
Executioner's in for Dismember.
Pump axe to 16.
Drop curses down to 2, tactics to 7(+1), and put those points into axe/strength.
Also possibly cyclone axe instead of axe rake for extra adrenaline gain, especially on dias maps
Edit: Just on a side note I'd like to throw in that I absolutely love fear me.
Good idea, though I didn't think all those adrenal skills will benefit from spamming fear me so how exactly do u manage adrenaline properly?
12+1+3 axe
7+1 tactics
10+1 strength
rest to curses
Swift Chop
Fear Me!
Eviscerate {E}
Exe. Strike
Frenzy
Sprint
Plague Touch
Res Sig / Rend Enchantments
Though meta game states that conditions aren't used, I've never my whole life playing in any of the pvp modes [arena, team, random, gvg, hoh] have I ever fought a team that completely ignored dumping hex/condition on me time and time again. Why the metagame would do that doesn't make sense. Leave it to your monk? During those times the monk isn't next to you [which should be everytime since your a war attacking their casters], Plague = godsend. Though if you were truely ignored, I'd most likely switch plague for Dis. Chop. But that never happens to me. [warrior ignored in pvp, yeah, ok... Self-healing W/Mo yeah, but good war builds? no...]
I'm sure any build Eonwe comes up with for a warrior is only ignored by complete idiots... [who usually end up dead]...
Ignore warriors at your own peril...
02 Sep 2005 at 05:53 - 17
I'll clarify what I meant about the current metagame and why you shouldn't worry about bringing plague touch neccesarily. Chances are your team will have a smiter, possibly two. What skill is he going to be spamming on you? Draw conditions  .
02 Sep 2005 at 08:39 - 18
What do you think about this build? it's good? I saw it on a movie. Char name is Que
en Xy:
Class: Warrior / Necromancer
Attributes: (cost) '+' indicates Rune attributes
Strength: 4 (10)
Axe Mastery: 7+3 (28)
Tactics: 9+1 (48)
Blood Magic: 8 (37)
Curses: 11 (77)
Total attribute points used: 200/200
Skills: [Attribute] (Energy, Cast Time, Recharge TIme)
1) Sprint [Strength] (5,0,20) Stance: For 10 seconds, you move 25% faster.
2) Cyclone Axe [Axe Mastery] (5,0,4) Axe Attack: Perform a spinning axe attack striking for +9 damage to all adjacent opponents.
3) Bonetti's Defense [Tactics] (0,0,8) Stance: For 9 seconds, you have a 75% chance to block incoming melee attacks and arrows. You gain 5 energy for each successful melee attack blocked. Bonetti's Defense ends if you use a skill.
4) Gladiator's Defense [Tactics] (5,0,30) Stance: For 9 seconds, you have a 75% chance to block incoming attacks. Whenever you block a melee attack this way, the attacker suffers 25 damage. This is an elite skill.
5) Enfeebling Blood [Curses] (10,2,10) Spell: Sacrifice 17% max health. Target foe and all nearby foes suffer from weakness for 16 seconds.
6) Mark of Pain [Curses] (10,2,30) Hex: For 30 seconds, whenever target foe takes physical damage, Mark of Pain deals 32 shadow damage to adjacent foes.
7) Shadow of Fear [Curses] (10,2,10) Hex: Target foe and all adjacent foes attack slower than normal for the next 37 seconds.
8) Unholy Feast [Blood Magic] (15,1,30) Spell: Steal 25 health from each nearby foe.
02 Sep 2005 at 09:03 - 19
That build is absolutely terrible for way too many reasons.
02 Sep 2005 at 09:05 - 20
Yea, I accidentally double posted again, oops. Do your thing adam! Just delete this post.
But on a side note never, under any circumstances whatsoever, ever use a build like that. You shouldn't even be contemplating using such a build, nor should the thought of using anything remotely similar to that build cross your mind at any time. Are you guys getting the point?
02 Sep 2005 at 09:20 - 21
I get the point.. but I can't find good W/N builds (and i want something that involves axe). I tryed this now and don't know what to say about it.
By the way should i change my pro in elemental at Heroes' Audience? It's better?
02 Sep 2005 at 16:59 - 22
I've been posting tons of W/N axe builds for a loong time. I'm surprised you didn't even find it...
[or you were just being lazy and didn't use the search function. You can't POSSIBLY type in W/N Axe without running into any of my threads...]
02 Sep 2005 at 17:01 - 23
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Originally Posted by Eonwe
I'll clarify what I meant about the current metagame and why you shouldn't worry about bringing plague touch neccesarily. Chances are your team will have a smiter, possibly two. What skill is he going to be spamming on you? Draw conditions .
Ah ok. If I don't have a smiter, I'll bring Plague Touch. If I do, I bring Disrupting chop then.
Thanks a bunch!
*note* does anyone have a good 16 armor shield that uses either 8 tactics or 9 strength that does more than just one benefit?
02 Sep 2005 at 17:10 - 24
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Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki
Ah ok. If I don't have a smiter, I'll bring Plague Touch. If I do, I bring Disrupting chop then.
Thanks a bunch!
*note* does anyone have a good 16 armor shield that uses either 8 tactics or 9 strength that does more than just one benefit?
pvp shield FTW
02 Sep 2005 at 20:53 - 25
ok, what's on this pvp shield?
*I like fighting for new gear in pve world but I'd rather not go pvp only with my warrior cause he's also my best farmer...
new stats:
12+1+3 axe
7+1 tactics
8+1 strength
8 curses
I didn't think that 16/9/8/8 could do much better than 12/10/10/8 but I suppose the loss of 3 stat points total to punch 4 statpoints up is worth it.
02 Sep 2005 at 21:04 - 26
man u love your ViM lol most of the war builds you post have that on the skill bar lol
02 Sep 2005 at 21:50 - 27
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Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki
ok, what's on this pvp shield?
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its like a collector shield only a bit more flexibility: -2 damage and +45 hp when in a stance/enchanted/hexed. max armor (duh). both reqs (strength + tactics)[req 9]
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Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki
*I like fighting for new gear in pve world but I'd rather not go pvp only with my warrior cause he's also my best farmer...
well thats your choice and i respect that
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Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki
new stats:
12+1+3 axe
7+1 tactics
8+1 strength
8 curses
I didn't think that 16/9/8/8 could do much better than 12/10/10/8 but I suppose the loss of 3 stat points total to punch 4 statpoints up is worth it.
if this is for a tombs build, i say specialize in 2-3. spreading attribs isnt something you generally do in an 8 person team... i mean you have enough people to have each one specialize.
and not sure why you need 8 curses, again with rend as the only skill you need it at like 2-3...
the only skill i would waste about 8-9 atribs on is TF, but generally you try to confine yourself to like 2 attribs so you dont get spread too thin.
02 Sep 2005 at 21:51 - 28
Theres nothing wrong with speading out if the numbers come out alright. In some cases its only a matter of a couple of seconds of effect for a great gain in flexibility.
03 Sep 2005 at 01:55 - 29
only thing i would change is use plague sig instead of the victory is mine. ya the energy is great but do you really need it? if you do need it use bonetti's def. plague sig is just fun i run over barb traps on purpose just to give the long bleeding and cripple back to the ranger.
if you want to increase your dmg just use weaken armor. with your curse so high it will last a long time.
yes you can e denial with this build very easily but then again i had a max tact and didn't worry about dmg or str too much.
03 Sep 2005 at 07:17 - 30
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Originally Posted by twicky_kid
only thing i would change is use plague sig instead of the victory is mine. ya the energy is great but do you really need it? if you do need it use bonetti's def. plague sig is just fun i run over barb traps on purpose just to give the long bleeding and cripple back to the ranger.
if you want to increase your dmg just use weaken armor. with your curse so high it will last a long time.
yes you can e denial with this build very easily but then again i had a max tact and didn't worry about dmg or str too much.
Weaken armor is a viable option to make this more offensive and less disruptive. The reason why Rend is so hot is because it can't be 'countered' aside from Spell Breaker and interrupting me. Yeah, an anti-caster mesmer will REALLY want to keep their eyes on me, the warrior...
03 Sep 2005 at 07:20 - 31
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Originally Posted by smurfhunter
its like a collector shield only a bit more flexibility: -2 damage and +45 hp when in a stance/enchanted/hexed. max armor (duh). both reqs (strength + tactics)[req 9]
well thats your choice and i respect that
if this is for a tombs build, i say specialize in 2-3. spreading attribs isnt something you generally do in an 8 person team... i mean you have enough people to have each one specialize.
and not sure why you need 8 curses, again with rend as the only skill you need it at like 2-3...
the only skill i would waste about 8-9 atribs on is TF, but generally you try to confine yourself to like 2 attribs so you dont get spread too thin.
Actually, if you try it, I'm only sacrificing 1-2 points in strength to gain 8 in curses. That allows for some great flexibility and all those strength points do is take away 1-2% armor penetration from my attacks. [with my axe rating, I'm already smashing ur head in 2 for 250+ dmg] and my Rend is super dangerous. Hell, if I was ballsy, I'd bring Desecrate [but since I don't run energy manager, I won't ]
I like 4 stats because the effectiveness I gain from going from 4 to 3 is soo small that, I don't know, it just doesn't seem worth it.
03 Sep 2005 at 19:57 - 32
IMO is this a freat build with helping comments from all
what would be a good weapon for this build, zealous and fort? (also dun get why alot of people want 15>50 instead of 15always with a neg mod)
12+1+3 on axe means ull have to wear the axe mastery helm?
thx for answers
03 Sep 2005 at 21:47 - 33
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Originally Posted by Tears_Of_Crimson
what would be a good weapon for this build, zealous and fort? (also dun get why alot of people want 15>50 instead of 15always with a neg mod)
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Zealous of fortitude would work fine, or zealous of defense. To answer the second question, this isn't pve.
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12+1+3 on axe means ull have to wear the axe mastery helm?
That would be correct.
04 Sep 2005 at 03:06 - 34
so its always 15>50 for pvp?
all the +1 helms look ccrappy for wars >.<
04 Sep 2005 at 03:17 - 35
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Originally Posted by Tears_Of_Crimson
so its always 15>50 for pvp?
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No, just one of: +15% while Health >50%, +20% while Health <50%, +15% while in a stance, +15% while Enchanted, +15% while Hexed.
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Originally Posted by Tears_Of_Crimson
all the +1 helms look ccrappy for wars >.<
Aesthetics < fundamental function.
04 Sep 2005 at 06:54 - 36
I'm wielding a Crippling Chaos Axe of Fortitude. I think the extra hp is more useful since extra armor on a warrior is going to be ignored anyway...
I know the condition mods aren't too hot but to me, they're probably quite balanced. 100% of this effect and your target is stuck with said condition longer... [till removed]
Zealous hurts my energy regen [which is already ridiculously low] and if blinded/hexed, I'm REALLY out of the fight...
But I'll look into a Zealous hilt however, hopefully, my teammate monks can keep me striking in tip top shape. One idea though, why didn't you post Vampiric Eonwe? It's armor ignoring and with frenzy, that little dmg builds up over time... I'm supposing the hp drain isn't worth it vs. the energy drain on a Zealous...
Enlighten me someone?
04 Sep 2005 at 06:57 - 37
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Originally Posted by neoflame
Aesthetics < fundamental function.
Amen...
04 Sep 2005 at 07:21 - 38
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Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki
I'm wielding a Crippling Chaos Axe of Fortitude. I think the extra hp is more useful since extra armor on a warrior is going to be ignored anyway...
I know the condition mods aren't too hot but to me, they're probably quite balanced. 100% of this effect and your target is stuck with said condition longer... [till removed]
Zealous hurts my energy regen [which is already ridiculously low] and if blinded/hexed, I'm REALLY out of the fight...
But I'll look into a Zealous hilt however, hopefully, my teammate monks can keep me striking in tip top shape. One idea though, why didn't you post Vampiric Eonwe? It's armor ignoring and with frenzy, that little dmg builds up over time... I'm supposing the hp drain isn't worth it vs. the energy drain on a Zealous...
Enlighten me someone?
Use both on a weapon switch. Zealous haft on one and a Vampiric on the other. Use one or the other depending on the situation. I'd say stick to the fortitude grip, people like to use degen skills like Poison Arrow and Conjure Phantasm in the arenas...
04 Sep 2005 at 09:06 - 39
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Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki
I'm wielding a Crippling Chaos Axe of Fortitude. I think the extra hp is more useful since extra armor on a warrior is going to be ignored anyway...
I know the condition mods aren't too hot but to me, they're probably quite balanced. 100% of this effect and your target is stuck with said condition longer... [till removed]
Zealous hurts my energy regen [which is already ridiculously low] and if blinded/hexed, I'm REALLY out of the fight...
But I'll look into a Zealous hilt however, hopefully, my teammate monks can keep me striking in tip top shape. One idea though, why didn't you post Vampiric Eonwe? It's armor ignoring and with frenzy, that little dmg builds up over time... I'm supposing the hp drain isn't worth it vs. the energy drain on a Zealous...
Enlighten me someone?
I'm pretty sure Zealous doesn't drain energy, however the energy regain per hit is faster than that one pip... Blind shouldn't matter, organised teams can remove conditions/hexes within a few seconds of you getting it...(well unless you are in Competition Arena...)
04 Sep 2005 at 16:11 - 40
Zealous does drain energy. You get nailed with one pip degen energy. [which is cancelled out by your pip of regen.]
However, a frenzied assault will bring me 1en./sec.
What's that in terms of pips?
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) You can only apply two conditions yourself.
Disrupting Chop shouldn't be spammed here, it's Fear Me! that's spammed... ^_^
