Stephan Vs. Little Thorn, who do you bring with you

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

lol.

Stephan :Charge, Griffon's Sweep, Power Attack, Healing signet, res signet
Little Thorn: Wild Blow, Executioner's Strike, Swift Chop, Healing signet, res signet

Levi Garett

Levi Garett

Old School Nub

Join Date: Jun 2005

ABQ, NM

Guildless

Mo/Me

I believe the brawler (little thom) has charge not stephan. I could be wrong though but that's what I've seen

sludgy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Um usually both but then my 2 characters are casters and need the tanks

captainrad

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

i always read "worn" belts as "worm" belts. i guess you did the same thing, because his name is little thom, not thorn
you had me worried there for a minute.

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

yeah I did the thorn-thom thing to... still do. I take both with me actually and a healer, I'll do the casting of magic. But if I could only take one... I'd take Thom... guess because we got to do missions for him and who the heck is stefan?

Tourist

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Mo

Stefan needs to lose some weight. Boy gots one fearsome beergut. In gameplay terms though, I bring 'em both regardless of what character I'm using.

Amandir Genenfer

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/E

I always take both, I need the tanks since I'm a R/E.

JMFD

JMFD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Looking...

E/

They both have charge, I remember them using it after each other once in perdition rock..

I play mostly casters, so bring em both. When I'm playing my tank, I bring neither of em!

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

I never noticed it was Stefan not Stephan and Thom not Thorn. >_>

John Waffletord

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Baltimore, MD, USA

I like little thom.. cause he's got a big cloak, and stefan has drinking problems

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Heh, he's got a big cloak cause you gave it to him back in pre-sear

Rahl

Rahl

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Austin, Tx

Mmph Its [Good]

Mo/

Stefan seems to last a lot longer than Thom, so I bring him over Thom.

Or I just bring both

m1970c

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

UK, Cheltenham

Martins Merry Men

E/Me

Does anyone ever tale the ranger henchie ?

Im just wondering cus after you have dealt with the Dragon Lair Mission (the bonus is well ard ) you get a party of 8 if i am playing with henches i take all but the ranger as to me he seems not to do a great deal ! i may be wrong thats wky im posting this !! !LOL

Nuke_Dembastages

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Wikki

Mo/W

no...you're right...he doesn't do a great deal.

But you already said that when you said he was the ranger henchie

coldslammer

coldslammer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

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W/Mo

i vote for stefan, he has such a goof look about him.

i cannot count how many times stefan and alesha have survived through barracades of enemies whilest i lead them to there death so i can sneak by.

Mana Garmr

Mana Garmr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Ireland

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuke_Dembastages
no...you're right...he doesn't do a great deal. That's weird. If I ever get in a really bad situation with the henchies Reyna, and to a lesser extent Aidan, are generally the last ones standing. Hell, I've had a couple of times where Reyna was the only reason the whole party didn't have to respawn or restart a mission because she got either me or Alesia back up and we managed to get the whole group up and running again.

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

I rarely bring the henchie ranger... I always take warrior, healer, caster and myself. When you can take group of 6, its me, two warriors, healer, caster and cultist. When you can take 8 in a group, its me, two warriors, two healers, caster and cultist.

John Waffletord

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Baltimore, MD, USA

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mavrik
When you can take 8 in a group, its me, two warriors, two healers, caster and cultist. You = 1
2 W's = 2
2 Mo's = 2
E = 1
N = 1

1+2+2+1+1 = 7

so im guessing you take the Me too?

Thats how i do it.. i leave the archer cause im a ranger.. i'd rather bring more diversity.

coolhan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/Mo

i think stefan is a better tanker and little thom does more dmg
because stefan has more tactics
when stefan uses charge, it lasts 10seconds and when little thom uses charge, it lasts 9seconds
stefan is more of a defensive and little thom is more of an offensive type

Glasswalker

Glasswalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Northwest Ascalon

Freedom

N/R

Hmm. Unless I'm playing my Warrior (and sometimes still) I'm usually bothered by both of them running in to aggro mobs when I'm trying to draw one out.

When playing a caster or ranger, I never brought either. My necro tanks better than either.

As a Warrior I will usually bring Thom, or sometimes both. I just deal with their occasional uselessness. Archer and Enchanter fall off my list in that order.

mr_boo

mr_boo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA US

SoF

Mo/

I'm with Glasswalker, I typically don't bring Thom or Stefan since they just get in the way and attract groups while I'm trying to pull some of the subgroups out. I'll even bring Dunnie over these two.

Wolvenbear

Wolvenbear

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

GMT -5

GBP

I usually take Stefan, Alesia, and Orion with me. Add Little Thom and Claude for the six man party, and then add Lina and Dunham into the eight man party. Sometimes for 8 I'll substitute Reyna for Dunham if I know I'll be going up against a lot of Imps. She usually has the sense to get out of the Maelstrom... I tried taking Lina instead of Claude in the desert but he uses Blood Rit on Alesia all the time so I rarely have trouble getting her to heal the party. The extra damage he deals is noticeable also.

On a side note I used to think Reyna was rather useless until I watched her using different skills. She normally Ignites her arrows on a regular basis which does pretty good damage. Haven't figured out which Elite she has though.

As far as the two tanks running in and aggroing everything in sight, I haven't had too much trouble with that. As a caster I normally pull with a small spell (Flare with my E/Mo or Life Siphon with Nec). Since you can cast all day and they'll all stand there like lumps I can generally pull small subgroups away to a safe fighting distance before I actually call one and attack.

OrangeArrow

Flame Bait

Join Date: Mar 2005

Mass

Mo/Me

the ranger has really a bad build, practiced stance is such a waste of an elite slot when your only prep is kindle arrows

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

I bring them both. I play all casters, so I need meatshields. Just be still and let me kill them, Stefan and Little Thom. I always bring claude too. He's a nice extra battery.

magnusmu

magnusmu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Sons of ZEUS

N/E

I usually bring them both in a party of 8. You can almost always use meat shields. But I prefer Little Thom.

I bring Reyna along too. She's smarter than the rest of em, and typically is the last one standing which means she'll be able to rez signet Alesia or Lina and save the rest of the party.

She does do decent damage. I think people just don't give arrows much credit - but if you pay attention (usually when you're dead already) and watch her go 1v1 in the shiverpeaks, she usually wins. (Thanks to Troll Ungent).

If I didn't need meat shields, I'd pick Reyna over the fighters.

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

I usually go group of 7 when you can take 8... simple reason... slightly more exp and drops for you lol.

Now I did notice Stefan doing some stuff on his own last night when I used my warrior. He was off tanking on his own instead of going after who I was targeting which he normally does when I play as my ranger or elementalist...

EF2NYD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Devona replaces Stefan after Thunderhead keep, but Stefan is way better that both still.

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

Yeah Devona is nuts... in Pre-Searing you get the mission from her to go with her to battle Grawl and Charr... Well I was lv1 at the time and got smoked so badly, even Stefan would be smarter then to tank all that... right?

Devona is easier on the eyes though...