I hav looked for a good while on the internet but i can find many stratergys for Me/E - Is this just not a good build???
I would hav thought that a primary mesmers fast casting coupled with an elementalists damage capeabilities to unleash high damage fast.
Along with this there is the way that a mesmer can use illusion magic etc to drain enemy life (imagine 'conjure phantasm' + burning...) and prevent the enemy from being able to hurt you...
i just wanna ask people what they think - is it just that no1 has tried it or am i just being stupid and would it really not work....?
Me/E - Why Are They Not a Popular Build???
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Mavrik
I noticed the same to... here I thought I had the only Me/E... as for a good build, no idea. I'm pre-searing still...
Mandy Memory
its just really not good....mesmers average 40 energy....now cast a 25 enegy spell with exauhtion....and you have 15/30....you cant even cast another spell
Maagus
They are popular in GvG (meet them three times in 7 battles). They are focused on fastcasting, using arcane echo and fire (meteor shower, fire storm etc.) and they try to rush your guild lord.
For other purposes - my guild mate tried that but always ended on lack of mana.
For other purposes - my guild mate tried that but always ended on lack of mana.
Blow Up Doll
ye i suppose...and speed is possible by being e/r...lack of energy is a problem i start an me/e but is only lvl4 and pre searing...and doesnt hav much firepower but already i have noticed that my energy gets lots kinda fast...i would be using it for gvg only really...mayb just get the skills i need then make pvp one...
Lasareth
Being a Mesmer myself, I'll say that there's nothing more satisfying than interrupting a wannabe elementaliast. The second I see them cast, I just throw up a power block, and watch them sit and scratch their butts for the rest of the fight, as their party goes down. 
Blow Up Doll
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Being a Mesmer myself, I'll say that there's nothing more satisfying than interrupting a wannabe elementaliast. The second I see them cast, I just throw up a power block, and watch them sit and scratch their butts for the rest of the fight, as their party goes down.
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Lasareth
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but just make sure you can do sumthing vs warriors and other mellee otherwise if just after you have stopped the elementalist if a warrior comes up you will be hit hard quickly (i say this from experience my main char being a lvl 20 w/mo) and you will not be able to stay alive and keep the elementalist at bay for long...
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Empathy, for example, teaches warriors who want to 1v1 not to in a hurry. As does a shatter enhancement for those who enjoy mending
Blow Up Doll
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There's other skills I use, too
Empathy, for example, teaches warriors who want to 1v1 not to in a hurry. As does a shatter enhancement for those who enjoy mending |
- of course this could be turned to your advantage by being a mo/me healer so they ignore you and you heal everyone without getting hurt yourself...
artemis inferno
i have full fast cast and full fire... SPEED NEKER!!! YAY!
Blow Up Doll
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i have full fast cast and full fire... SPEED NEKER!!! YAY!
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One and Two
speed meaning in an out quickly 
Arcanis Imperium
I've been an Me/E since I started this game. I'm in Thunderhead now.
I havent had any problems with the build I use, so I dont see why anyone would.
Oh and to Mandy up there, we've talked about this before. You have to be kinda smart not to use Exhaustion spell after exhaustion spell. And only a stupid mesmer would use a 25 energy spell to begin with.
I havent had any problems with the build I use, so I dont see why anyone would.
Oh and to Mandy up there, we've talked about this before. You have to be kinda smart not to use Exhaustion spell after exhaustion spell. And only a stupid mesmer would use a 25 energy spell to begin with.
Kuku Monk
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well thats what i would have thought - but dont you have mana problems?
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kirgr526
I used to play a Mes/Ele, but I found more and more as I got further along that I was not using the Ele skills, and relying solely on the Mes skills. So when I ascended, I changed my secondary to Mo, now I can res more that once in a mission. Still only use Mes skills other than that one. But, man, is it fun to res with fast cast, can get a whole team up before a monk blinks 
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Arcanis Imperium
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I use a similar build. I don't really have problems with energy. Mesmers have spells to steal energy from enemies so I stay at a good level most of the time. My timeline with this character has been mainly relying on AoE fire spells and Chaos storm up until I got to Thirsty River. Since then my elemental skills have really taken a backseat to interrupts and energy stealing. Main problem with this build is the lack of healing. Ether feast will only go so far. All other professions have better healing skills.
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vvh
Me/Ele is probably the most versatile char I have in my account. Bring Echo and archane echo and you can choose to be Echo Nuker or Echo interupt. It's really fun to interupt chain lightning from the Mursaat elementalist and Mursaat towers. BTW, I finished the game with my Me/Ele.
NatalieD
Energy is not a problem for a Me/E if you stack Attunements and avoid exhaustion spells.
LifeInfusion
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Try Aura of Restoration and Ether Feast combined. That'll give you a huge chunk of health in one shot.
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A NERD1989
not many people like mesmers they are good but no body really plys them
Chev of Hardass
I was collecting the rest of the mesmer skills with my Ranger/Mes when I met a Mes/Ele, in a GvG, with Ward Against Melee and the usual interupts and quickly learned to hate that mesmer. Since then, I deleted my Ranger and am working throught the game as a Mes/Ele.
I only use Armor of Mist, from the Ele side right now, but I feel like the Ele side, if taken as a support role, is a great secondary to Mes. I was using Glyph of lesser energy to calm down the cost of backfire for a while, but I am better at energy management now.
I only use Armor of Mist, from the Ele side right now, but I feel like the Ele side, if taken as a support role, is a great secondary to Mes. I was using Glyph of lesser energy to calm down the cost of backfire for a while, but I am better at energy management now.
Vermilion Okeanos
another thing is that fast casting line have almost no skills in there... while the effectiveness of fast casting are not that great if the spell you cast are fast or not enough attribute in there...
(exhausion arent that big of deal when paired with glyph of energy)
another big deal is that as ele... you want to do heavy damage, and you do not have the option of rune for those elements.
I think those are the main thing people avoid me/e for...
The only reason I don't use me/e as much are mainly because... why do I need fast casting for? lava font? flame burst? I don't know... at most triple lightning strike? fire storm/meteor shower really fast? who cares if you get firestorm and meteor shower in 1-2 sec earlier?
(exhausion arent that big of deal when paired with glyph of energy)
another big deal is that as ele... you want to do heavy damage, and you do not have the option of rune for those elements.
I think those are the main thing people avoid me/e for...
The only reason I don't use me/e as much are mainly because... why do I need fast casting for? lava font? flame burst? I don't know... at most triple lightning strike? fire storm/meteor shower really fast? who cares if you get firestorm and meteor shower in 1-2 sec earlier?
Yukito Kunisaki
actually, I can think of some ways to make a me/e work, problem? less versatility then a primary ele...
Glyphs of Lesser energy and Energy can REALLY cut down on those gigantic cost spells and even nullify exhaustion. At 30 and 15s. recycle time, and using fire [which has slow recycle anyway], you can make it work. Just be wary of the in your face warrior I suppose.
Glyphs of Lesser energy and Energy can REALLY cut down on those gigantic cost spells and even nullify exhaustion. At 30 and 15s. recycle time, and using fire [which has slow recycle anyway], you can make it work. Just be wary of the in your face warrior I suppose.
Toral Xi
My favorite character is my Me/Ele that I have just about finished the game with. I have 55 energy due to offhand item/rogue armor and play mostly a nuker in Pve. I know that is not nearly as much as an elementalist primary but I usually knock off the enemy (or most of them) before it becomes an issue. I think where my character really shines though is in PvP. Combining shut down skills with earth skills is a lot of fun. I have had warriors hack and slash at me for what seems like forever and when they eventually realize they can't bring me down on their own, they move on to someone else. The fast casting doesn't hurt when using a rez or any other spell for that matter, especially in PvP where seconds can determine whether your team wins or loses.
Kiiron
I have a PvE Me/E who fastcast nukes, and I have to say it's great fun. I usually bring glyph of lesser energy, fireball, firestorm, meteor shower, arcane echo, (support skill, usually mantra of recovery), (support skill, usually energy tap), and res signet. I'll cast arcane echo, wait for my energy to return, then firestorm or meteor shower the mobs (who are hopefully distracted by a tank). I'll then use the glyph and cast the echo. If I cast meteor shower like this, I'll usually have something like 5/20 energy left becaue of exhaustion, but I can still energy tap a mob and cast firestorm, and finish off with a fireball or two. Since meteor shower is on a 1 minute recharge timer, even when echoing it the exhaustion isn't too bad (20 exhaustion clears in 60 seconds). It works very well, assuming the mobs are stationary casters or are distracted by a tank. I end up being able to put out two meteor showers and a firestorm before the elementalist primary is able to echo his meteor shower...
The main problem, of course, is that you're pretty helpless while everything is recharging and you're waiting for exhaustion to wear off. I cast fireball in the downtime, using ether feast and the glyph when necessary.
The main problem, of course, is that you're pretty helpless while everything is recharging and you're waiting for exhaustion to wear off. I cast fireball in the downtime, using ether feast and the glyph when necessary.
Algren Cole
that build isn't an effective use of either class. Elementalist skills cost too much mana for mesmers and honestly fast casting is one of the worst primary attributes in the game. Mesmers average 40-45 energy...cast a 25 energy spell and you've depleated more than half your energy reserve for a single attack. Elementalist/Mesmer would be a great build as you could shutdown for a lifetime with 130 energy.
Arcanis the Omnipotent
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Aura of restoration on an Elementalist secondary... heals for a mediocre amount
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that build isn't an effective use of either class. Elementalist skills cost too much mana for mesmers and honestly fast casting is one of the worst primary attributes in the game. Mesmers average 40-45 energy...cast a 25 energy spell and you've depleated more than half your energy reserve for a single attack. Elementalist/Mesmer would be a great build as you could shutdown for a lifetime with 130 energy.
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Kampfkeks
I'd take a dual attunement Me/E over a primary Ele any time. Sure they shouldn't bring exhaustion based spells but thanks to the dual attunement the energy costs don't trouble them too much. Combine that with channeling and arcane echo+ fastcasting ability and you have one evil nuker that spits out huge amounts of damage consistently yet fast at the same time.
Speaking both, pvp and pve.
Speaking both, pvp and pve.
Asgaroth
I'm a Me/E at the last mission of the game. Im also not using much from the ele line but i've found good use in Echo, it makes my build more versatile, copying hexes according to the enemies we face. Energy isnt a problem since the inspiration line of the mesmer is quite good at retaining a good energy level throughout the battles.
Algren Cole
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A mediocre ammount is better than a minimal ammount, wouldnt you think?
That's really misinformed. Ok, you're going to shut down a caster, before they cast, without Fast Cast? Explain that one to me. Secondly, if you're stupid enough to put 25 Energy cost spells on a Mesmer, you deserve to get owned. There are plenty of 5, 10, or 15 cost elemental spells to use as a Mesmer who can cast them faster than an ele primary. Also, Mesmers Average around 45-50 energy, and usually use Inspiration Magic to quickly refill their energy. |
Backfire + Savage Shot + Distracting Shot FTW
Arcanis the Omnipotent
And Hexbreaker stops that combo before it even starts.
Wow...
Wow...
Algren Cole
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And Hexbreaker stops that combo before it even starts.
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OMG you found a counter!@#!@#
so use the combo on any class other than mesmer and like I said FTW
Arcanis the Omnipotent
Probably. Its true Rangers can interupt better than a Mesmer. That's not the point. Interuption only stops the spell while its being cast. It doesnt prevent the spells from being cast in the first place.
Algren Cole
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Originally Posted by Arcanis the Omnipotent
Probably. Its true Rangers can interupt better than a Mesmer. That's not the point. Interuption only stops the spell while its being cast. It doesnt prevent the spells from being cast in the first place.
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Hex breaker only stops one hex...it's a great skill but it's easily over looked and reapplication of the skill generally get's ignored in favor of doing something else. You could also toss up a buffer hex just in case they are using hex breaker and then throw up Backfire.
Arcanis the Omnipotent
One of the funnier things I've done against other Mesmers who cast Backfire on me is running up to them and casting Shatter Hex. I get damaged, but so do they.