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Andy_M

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Worthing, UK

(Don't fear) The Beaver

03 Sep 2005 at 22:24 - 41

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As you have noted in recent weeks, the Guild Wars economy has become much more stable. With the release of the Sorrow's Furnace Update on September 7, we will be making a number of important economic and balance changes. Many things will become significantly easier to acquire, including skill points and skills. But the gold cost of learning a skill from a trainer will be somewhat more expensive for most players.

I'd like more of an explanation about the skill points and skills being easier to acquire, not exactly difficult to get at the moment are they ? And why make skills more expensive to buy ? Do they want us to go out and get loads of SoC's or what ?

AeroLion

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

03 Sep 2005 at 22:28 - 42

Ms. Gray, can you comment on if we'll be able to take henchmen into the new EAs?

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

03 Sep 2005 at 22:35 - 43

Hey do you guys know theres a scroll crafter...

too bad it takes more gold to craft then to buy straight from the vendor...

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

03 Sep 2005 at 22:37 - 44

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Originally Posted by powdahound

Rangers shure could use some non-bow weapons or offhand items.

They could also just come up with new models for existing weapons types... which is probably what they'll have.

Or some mods to bows that are more useful *is holding out for a +5 Energy mod*

Sanji

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

03 Sep 2005 at 23:13 - 45

:\ Man, nobody talked about the picture of the Mole guy.

Dac Vin

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Farnham, Quebec, Canada

The Phoenix Brotherhood [TPB]

03 Sep 2005 at 23:34 - 46

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Originally Posted by Sanji

:\ Man, nobody talked about the picture of the Mole guy.

You mean that thing who looks like a Shambler, minus the fur? (Or I played too much Quake?

)

Sanji

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

03 Sep 2005 at 23:54 - 47

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Originally Posted by Dac Vin

You mean that thing who looks like a Shambler, minus the fur? (Or I played too much Quake?

)

I'm assuming as much since he looks like a Mole, the file name is molebrutea.gif, he lives underground, and Guild Wars uses mostly Beastmen (IE: Tengu, Forgotten, Grawl, etc) instead of the traditional Orcs and Goblins for it's humanoid monsters.

Calrisian Nantos

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Birmingham Alabama

Psychic Distraction[PD]

R/

04 Sep 2005 at 00:17 - 48

"Hundreds of Minions" Oh god I can see it now,8 summit rangers in every mob firing melandru's arrows everyshot and coupled with two arcanists and two dolaks,fun times ahead

Cobalt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

04 Sep 2005 at 12:54 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy_M

I'd like more of an explanation about the skill points and skills being easier to acquire, not exactly difficult to get at the moment are they ? And why make skills more expensive to buy ? Do they want us to go out and get loads of SoC's or what ?

I think perhaps some are abusing the ability to change the secondary class in the desert later in the game and it is just another in a long line of their "punish the whole for the acts of a few policy" they are so flagrant with.

Sanji

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

04 Sep 2005 at 13:41 - 50

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Originally Posted by Cobalt

I think perhaps some are abusing the ability to change the secondary class in the desert later in the game and it is just another in a long line of their "punish the whole for the acts of a few policy" they are so flagrant with.

Or they can be rebalacing skill accusition so it is one less part getting EXP and one more part paying Gold so that it involves less EXP grind on top of becoming a better moneysink.

Not everyone needs Fissure Armor, not everyone needs Dwarven Ale, or other means of taking the money OUT of the game.

People need skills though.

If anything, this might make getting a solid amount of skills with a single profession switching character easier than it's ever been.

Tul Armadas

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Help Is Here

D/Mo

04 Sep 2005 at 13:46 - 51

I heard that money will be more abundant and more in quantity now. Also, they are making the skill trainers' skills cost more.. But so what...SF and Grenths Footprint are like FoW and UW? Will you have to pay and will they be places you can travel to by mapping there?

Kampfkeks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

04 Sep 2005 at 13:49 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tul Armadas

I heard that money will be more abundant and more in quantity now. Also, they are making the skill trainers' skills cost more.. But so what...SF and Grenths Footprint are like FoW and UW? Will you have to pay and will they be places you can travel to by mapping there?

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Ease of Accessibility – The journey through Grenth's Footprint and Sorrow's Furnace will not be easy, but entering the area will be! There is no restriction on timing, nor is there a cost to visit the region. Enter if you dare!

That question should be answered ^^

Tul Armadas

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Help Is Here

D/Mo

04 Sep 2005 at 13:55 - 53

Heh, whoops. I just read something online that i prolly should have cuz it was a link...lol...unlimited access, no paying. sweet.

ElRey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Outside your window

First Degree [FiR]

W/Rt

04 Sep 2005 at 14:02 - 54

Yo money shouldent be more plentiful! I have 354k and i made it fair and square in 200 hrs of playing. No farming, no solo uw monk, just buyin and sellin weapons. I personally was holdin out till there was gonna be more skill points, and i dont care if i waste 354k on skills alone, thats what i saved it for

Tul Armadas

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Help Is Here

D/Mo

04 Sep 2005 at 14:04 - 55

Wow, you have too much time on your hands....LOL! There's no way I'd make that much money...id have to be buying SOMETHING...armor, runes, weapons...something. wow, congrats on that tho ElRey.

ElderAtronach

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/Me

04 Sep 2005 at 14:21 - 56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobalt

I think perhaps some are abusing the ability to change the secondary class in the desert later in the game and it is just another in a long line of their "punish the whole for the acts of a few policy" they are so flagrant with.

Care to elaborate on how you think changing secondaries is abusing anything? I'm curious as to why you think this, because I don't see anything abusable about it.

crimsonfilms

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

04 Sep 2005 at 18:40 - 57

I use it to get around refund points in some cases. Say I need 10 heal, no refund, but got 10 smite. Change to new 2nd class. Move it back to monk. Instant refund.

Of course it does not work if the point you need is in primary atts.

My .02.

I don't think ANet design the switching for that purpose.

The undead Mesmer

Delphian Scribe

Join Date: May 2005

Holland

No guild ;_;

N/Me

04 Sep 2005 at 18:49 - 58

everybody is saying that you need to get through lornars pass to get to that those new areas but who says that thats true it might be a big chunk closer dunno where but maybe at errrrm outside camp rankor a short walking away from it because they said "getting there is easy but when you enter''

Stev0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Halifax, NS, Canada

04 Sep 2005 at 20:41 - 59

Looks like some good news. I seriously doubt it will fix drops. It may pull me away from Dungeon Siege2 for a looksee but...

Vwoss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Leader of Communist Communist Revolution (CCR)

05 Sep 2005 at 00:32 - 60

Possible new weapons for rangers:

Tamer's Whip (Beastmastery)

Hunting Knife (Expertise)

Druidic Staff (Wilderness Survival)

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

05 Sep 2005 at 00:43 - 61

Count on the majority of "new" weapons to be the ones that Anet removed after Beta. I'm expecting Shadowblades and Serpentines to make an appearance, along with others.

MetalIonicZ

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/Me

05 Sep 2005 at 01:00 - 62

Sometimes I wonder how all those people selling cash on ebay are able to get so much. I mean, I see like 500k gold auctions just littered all over ebay.

Cobalt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

05 Sep 2005 at 02:50 - 63

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Originally Posted by MetalIonicZ

Sometimes I wonder how all those people selling cash on ebay are able to get so much. I mean, I see like 500k gold auctions just littered all over ebay.

Me too; I have been playing since the game was released, have 4 ascended chars and still would not have broken the 500k mark if it were not for the invinc monk build I was able to run for a while. So I have no clue how anyone can get so much gold that they can spam 200k, 500k and 1000k auctions all over EBay.

zehly

Sunshine

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Wired

Daughters of Ananke

Mo/E

05 Sep 2005 at 03:25 - 64

Heh. More skills for more gold = more farming? Wooo.

sandman1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

tre

W/Mo

05 Sep 2005 at 03:44 - 65

i dun understand
theres NO mention of new armour but it also didnt say there wasnt gonna be new armour, who knows in future it could mean all new armours come from collectors (for example 15 saphire for one collector helm?)
im more looking forward to newer weapons and more pve exploring thou

flashz

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/Mo

05 Sep 2005 at 03:52 - 66

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobalt

Me too; I have been playing since the game was released, have 4 ascended chars and still would not have broken the 500k mark if it were not for the invinc monk build I was able to run for a while. So I have no clue how anyone can get so much gold that they can spam 200k, 500k and 1000k auctions all over EBay.

buy low and sell high

Stev0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Halifax, NS, Canada

05 Sep 2005 at 04:10 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashz

buy low and sell high

No... its called sweat shops that have people farm for pennies/hour and HAVE to make 1000's of gold. Then it get funneled to these sellers and so on. Do a search for sweat shops here. Read about how one guy made so much cash off of star wars galaxies he bought a $1.7million home which has a doorbell that plays the SW theme.

Jenosavel

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Jul 2005

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

05 Sep 2005 at 14:16 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by The undead Mesmer

everybody is saying that you need to get through lornars pass to get to that those new areas but who says that thats true it might be a big chunk closer dunno where but maybe at errrrm outside camp rankor a short walking away from it because they said "getting there is easy but when you enter''

The only problem is that they've already said the new map was "on the eastern slopes of Lornar's Pass," and there is nowhere in Lornar's that's a short distance from Camp Rankor. You have to go through all of Snake Dance as well as Dreadnought's Drift (sp?) to get to Lornar's from Rankor. I've made the trip several times for amusement's sake, since it's more fun than a PUG in UW or Fissure to me, but let me tell you something, it's no short journey! The last thing I'll want to do is have to hike for 2 hours just to get to the new area because I wanted to use henchies instead of a PUG.

In fact, if there isn't some way to get/use a party of 8 with better henchmen than Beacon's except hiking up from Rankor, I probably won't even touch the new EAs, despite that if I don't play them, I'll mostly likely abandon Guild Wars and never look back. I'd venture to say that there are a lot of PvEers who will agree with me on this.

There's a reason PvP is so important to this game. It's PvE content thus far as been incredibly lacking. I sincerely hope Sorrows Furnace eases that problem, and I'm remaining optimistic for the time being.

samtheslayer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

None

W/Mo

05 Sep 2005 at 16:45 - 69

or maybe a Dagger for Rangers, attribute would be survival

emil knight

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Chicago,IL

The Knights Of Temerity

R/Mo

05 Sep 2005 at 17:25 - 70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vwoss

Possible new weapons for rangers:

Tamer's Whip (Beastmastery)

Hunting Knife (Expertise)

Druidic Staff (Wilderness Survival)

Would be nice to have a few weapons that DON'T require Marksmanship...

Hopefully they would give us a few skills to go with it or change a few current ones to make them work with the new weapons.

David Lionmaster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

above the floor and below the celing

Fortunes Favored

05 Sep 2005 at 17:58 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by pyth0n

I just want a "Beastmaster's Staff" for my ranger...

yeah, i want a shepard's staff or whatever, that would be cool for my pvp beastmaster. i also want a max damage bow that gives extra energy, like the non-max damage bow in piken square that gives you +5 energy, that would rock. i would like +10 energy even more, but id be happy with +5. that means id have 37 energy for my pve r/e.

more energy =

oh, and id like to have an insiteful bow grip or something, that way i could upgrade my bow with +5 energy.

Sanji

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

05 Sep 2005 at 18:10 - 72

I'd like Ranger to have more weapons that key off other attributes, but they should keep with the precedent that non-Mastery Attribute weapons set and operate like a skill on a stick.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

05 Sep 2005 at 18:13 - 73

If they added melee weapons to ranger attributes, they'd have to add shields linked to ranger attributes. I don't see this happening within even the next expansion.

Sanji

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

05 Sep 2005 at 18:18 - 74

Shields ought to stay linked to Strength and Tactics. At the very least, not something you could get with any of the current Profession's primary attributes.

Reaper

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

We Drink Tequila

Mo/N

06 Sep 2005 at 18:59 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanji

:\ Man, nobody talked about the picture of the Mole guy.

To me it looks like he is wearing a birthday party hat. Might be hard to find that scary...

Audhumla

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oregon

The Shattered Hand

N/R

06 Sep 2005 at 19:46 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by zehly

Heh. More skills for more gold = more farming? Wooo.

Since they said that "skills will be significantly easier to acquire", I imagine not.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

06 Sep 2005 at 19:54 - 77

I can't wait to play this update tommorow!

and new weapons and monsters... sweet!

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

06 Sep 2005 at 19:58 - 78

it would be very nice if the *skills easier to aquire* means that high level skills you get at the end of the game when you have nothing left to use them on are available much earlier so you can have fun using them instead of waiting to get them

earlier means about 1/2-3/4 through the game not at the start

draco inferno

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

van down by the river

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

06 Sep 2005 at 20:53 - 79

somewhere else here it says that the skill points themselves will be easier to acquire, but actually buying the skills is more expensive.