Ranger Spiking?

Fourhundred Meters

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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i was in tomes a few days ago and we went up against some korean team who absolutely destroyed us (but thats not much of a suprise). it was over before i could even tell exactly what they were running. it appeared to be ~6 ranger and 2 monks. i was playing monk and they way peoples lives would drop was like it does against a spike group (ie all at once). has anybody ever seen/played with a build like this? if so what skills does it use cause i would like to try it out sometime.

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Yeah, it's called Ranger doing Damage. Quickshot or other Ranger builds will do this.

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has anybody ever seen/played with a build like this? if so what skills does it use cause i would like to try it out sometime. Check out some threads with the SEARCH function. (located at the top left corner)

Zeru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Rangers have one way to spike consistently: quickshot. Every other method is some form or another of constant dps. For constant dps, try Melandrus Arrows.

Arathorn5000

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seen a few korean times using the quickshot ranger group recently, it's spike with ~5 rangers focusing on you

ibex333

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Hey Guys.. Sorry for a noob question, but can someone please explain to me what does it mean to "SPIKE"???? What's good about it?
Also what does quick shot have to do with this??? Seems like a crappy skill by itself.
Oh and one more thing. Is there any way a ranger can do 100 or more damage on every shot??? Single target off course. I was playing pve and the enemy ranger was doing 90-117 or so damage to me every time.. and that was on BARRAGE!!!
Thanx in advance 4 your help.

UberRusty

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Hey Guys.. Sorry for a noob question, but can someone please explain to me what does it mean to "SPIKE"???? What's good about it?
Spike = Mass damage in a short amount of time, therefore harder to heal.

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Also what does quick shot have to do with this??? Seems like a crappy skill by itself. Use the search function. Located on your top left.

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Oh and one more thing. Is there any way a ranger can do 100 or more damage on every shot??? Single target off course. I was playing pve and the enemy ranger was doing 90-117 or so damage to me every time.. and that was on BARRAGE!!! There is also an Undead Lich in PvE that has 3 lives.

carnivore

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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ermm quickshot, used right, is the most powerful thing a ranger could do.
for instance, on my ranger, i run 10 wilderness and 9 fire, this gives 17 damage to kindle, and 10 damage to conjure. most ranger will run atleast 12 marks along with +35% damage to there bows. so thats a 20-37 damage range, along with +27 fire damge from conjure, makes for some really strong bow shots.

now 1 ranger with all that using quickshot and tigers fury is deadly, but put in 4 other rangers and you absolutly slaughter the target

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Originally Posted by UberRusty
Spike = Mass damage in a short amount of time, therefore harder to heal.



Use the search function. Located on your top left.



There is also an Undead Lich in PvE that has 3 lives.

I know that. Dont be sarcastic. I simply wanted to know if a ranger can do 100+ damage every time




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Originally Posted by carnivore
ermm quickshot, used right, is the most powerful thing a ranger could do.
for instance, on my ranger, i run 10 wilderness and 9 fire, this gives 17 damage to kindle, and 10 damage to conjure. most ranger will run atleast 12 marks along with +35% damage to there bows. so thats a 20-37 damage range, along with +27 fire damge from conjure, makes for some really strong bow shots.

now 1 ranger with all that using quickshot and tigers fury is deadly, but put in 4 other rangers and you absolutly slaughter the target

Thanx. At least now I understand more....

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I know that. Dont be sarcastic. I simply wanted to know if a ranger can do 100+ damage every time If you would've read my comments without such HATE, then maybe you would've realised I answered your question. By the way, the search function is in the top left.

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If you would've read my comments without such HATE, then maybe you would've realised I answered your question. By the way, the search function is in the top left.
There was no HATE..... I did a search.. found nothing that i need....

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If you would've read my comments without such HATE, then maybe you would've realised I answered your question. By the way, the search function is in the top left. Actually, the search function is at the top right corner.

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Actually, the search function is at the top right corner. You're being sarcastic right?

EDIT: If you're going to try and correct me in every post I make from now on, due to some hidden ego problems, please save yourself time. If it entertains you, please go ahead, but if you are trying to annoy me...

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Originally Posted by UberRusty
You're being sarcastic right?

EDIT: If you're going to try and correct me in every post I make from now on, due to some hidden ego problems, please save yourself time. If it entertains you, please go ahead, but if you are trying to annoy me...
Lol.. you've found your match...

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Actually, the search function is at the top right corner. LOL

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Barrage+high expertise+ zealous bow= woo hoo!

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Barrage+high expertise+ zealous bow= woo hoo! Quickshot > Barrage for TA.

dargon

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Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

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Wanna see a lot of damage without quickshot, 6 rangers with dualshot and vamp bows + 2 necro with order of the vampire and order of pain. Rangers all fire at once, dead target. Don't even need a single point of marksmanship as you'ren ot relying upon bow dmg.

Vamp String: 5 dmg
Order of Pain: 13 dmg
Order of the Vampire: 13 dmg
Dualshot: 31 * 2 dmg

Duration of OoP and OotV - 5 seconds = 1 dualshot and 1 or 2 normal shots

= (62 * 6) + (31 * 6)
= 372 + 186
= 558 dmg low end
= 744 dmg high end

all of this before the dmg from the newbie arrows is taken into account, which would add on another 20-40 dmg

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Another way I love to use my ranger is using Kindle Arrows, Dual Shot, and Frenzy together while using a half moon. Ahh all those little numbers going so fast give me a little warmth inside. Although, I'm sure something like Conjure Flame would be a lot better but... I supose thats just my preferrence.

zehly

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The Wired

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I like to think that almost any build can "spike" damage. I mean, isn't that the whole idea? Who wants to spend 15 means fighting when you can get them in 3? The whole concept of the PvP is "take them down first." You can spike with 8 E/Mos using a bane signet. It's all in coordination.

IPlayGuildWars

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I don't think you can since it requires 30 seconds recharge rate...

dargon

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It's a spike if it causes the dmg to one player to spike to a maximum value in a very short amount of time. Recharge doesn't mean much if you can keep the other team from killing you and resing the dead player.

smurfhunter

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my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

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sorry for resing the post (or not so sorry?), but i just wanted to say that pRp (patient relaxed people) uses an actual ranger spike in every sense of the word: they killed our monk in like 2 hits (regular bow attack + qs). its a spike in much the same way air eles spike. they were killing our monks like seriously eveyr 30 seconds (all our monks were at like 60 dp towards the end lol) but we just kept resing them. they couldnt spike our ghostly because one healing seed = owned the spike. (btw its a collection of little damage, prot spirit wont do you any good, the damage rarely exceeded like 30 per one hit, i was just hit abour 80 times with all the preps/conjures etc).

so the reasons they lost was basically that they spent too long in between spikes, we had enough time to res whoever died basically. and they couldnt spike our ghostly too well, it took them forever and when they did we just body blocked their ghost. so yea just sayin, ranger _spikes_ exist ^^

Mr Suz

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all props to lara valor~

Syno Nym

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Les Grosbilloux

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Healing hands / Shielding hands for the win !

You just have to hope they won't spike the target to death in less than 1s...

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<(btw its a collection of little damage, prot spirit wont do you any good, the damage rarely exceeded like 30 per one hit, i was just hit abour 80 times with all the preps/conjures etc). How about shielding hands coupled with shield of judgement?

If you have 2 monks they can both cast Life bond and essence bond on each other. They can each take turns using Retribution also (depending on who's being hit).

smedge

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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Don't even need a single point of marksmanship as you'ren ot relying upon bow dmg. Without a single point in marksmanship how would you use a bow at all since the req is 9 marks?

I wonder what % of the people who give out/comment on these builds actually play them. I'm thinking it's pretty low.

TheArrow

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Well, you select the bow you want to use. Then you click on the person you want to attack. Not that hard is it?

carnivore

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Without a single point in marksmanship how would you use a bow at all since the req is 9 marks?

I wonder what % of the people who give out/comment on these builds actually play them. I'm thinking it's pretty low. you need to reread his post. all his damage calculations came from buffs put on the arrows, not the damage of the arrows themselves.

and if u are plinking at a monk with normal bowshots with a longbow, u have a better chance of the monk laughing himself to death

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and if u are plinking at a monk with normal bowshots with a longbow, u have a better chance of the monk laughing himself to death LOL, great stuff.