It seems more than nerfing skills with that last nerf update

I like to solo, but can’t stand having to spam spirit with my monk so I dusted off my W/M and went to the same hunting grounds I used to solo with my War and did with my monk.

In the desert I noticed that the sand elementals now spam eruption like crazy, I used to be able to take on 3 at a time with Warrior now can’t even kill one with out dieing. Sand Giants another one of my favorite prey, I used to be able to take on groups of 3 with the warrior as well, now it is near impossible unless you find one alone. This is because they now are spamming vampric touch like crazy, you are lucky to survive one on one, and a group of the will suck all the life out of you in 60 secs!

In Shiverpeaks area I had one great hunting area but after that nerfing update about a half a dozen arcanists now spawn in my way to that area kill my enchantments an my War to quick to even try sprinting through.

It's a Teamgame.

Yeah, this game wasn't meant for soloing, so when they DO find out about a way to solo, they have to shoot it down. Sad but true.

+1 Useless Wannabe Elitist Post there. Could be a trollpost as well, no clue. Not even arguing on that.

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Its +2 by now
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About farming and harder farming places, i can't say i agree with you. While some places got harder, a lot of places stayed the same in difficulty but dwindled in drops (no, not the autonerf function). Best example would be the ectodrop shift from iceplanes to bonepits.
In my experience it is not harder to kill things, but it is a lot less rewarding now. I don't know your farming build but i'd imagine it is the typical Cyclone Axe Thingie. How can that one fail? You're building up a lot of health by using this?

Actually, in the prima guide it gives you ideas on how to solo. Therefore, it is encouraged by A-net. Sometimes, people just wanna do things alone for some peace and quiet, or maybe they are in a bad mood and don't want to cus anyone out. Just because people like to solo, doesn't mean they aren't team players, maybe they need a break. The big problem is not with builds, it is with bots.

It is a team game but why would there be the ability of travelling on ur own if Anet wouldnt allow us to?

Don't rely on 3rd party items to dictate how you should use the software.

The nerfing of prot bond and the buffing of previously soloable mobs is a bit disturbing. I am not sure exactly what A-Net is trying to accomplish. A Smiter or War\Mo can still solo much of the game though. Some places slower, others, like UW and Augury Rock, much faster actually...

But Cobalt, seriously, posting things like this here, all you're going to get is flamed by the self proclaimed "Uber 733t".

"Originally Posted by drk and other's
It's a Teamgame."

No, it's not...

It can be a team game.
It can be a solo Game.
It can be PVE
It can be PVP

Guild Wars can be many other things or combinations as well.

I've personally done the whole game solo or with a few Hench where necessary. I've mission teamed only where people requested help. Have over 3 million experience, 2 million gold, have never PVP'd and love this game as much or more than anyone.

There are people who play the game differently than you do.

There is nothing wrong with that.

ALL playstyles should be supported and encouraged by the people on this board.

Discrimination in any form is for the weak of mind and narrow of vision. If all you can make are discriminitory, bigoted, elitest remarks--- You should probably keep quiet so no one can tell how small you are...

Has anyone thought about this 'nerfing' as a good thing? Yes you could think: OMG this is so unfair, they're trying to stop me enjoying my game. Or you could think: Hmmm, this area has become harder, this will be an interesting challenge; maybe I should change my playing style.

Toe's got it I think.

They have made it harder, but not impossible. I feel the major influence on A-Net to nerf solo builds was to help balance the economy. That and let's face it, 2 weeks ago soloing was SOOOOO easy.

Phades, srry but that is why it is called a guide and has A-nets symbols all over it.

Just because something has A-Nets symbols on it doesn't mean that that is how you should play the game, it is probably only approved by A-Net, not supported.

Quoted twice because some people need to see it more than once to get it though their thick skulls...

Nerfs are only in your mind people, i find perfectly good items playing with people (when i help my guild i find about 1 gold and 2 purps per mission) so i have no idea of these nerfs you speak of.. perhaps im the only non-paranoid player on this forum

(by the way im immune to fire and have +25 armor against trolls)

It was created as a MULTIplayer game.

If it was made to be a solo game ... we could play it off-line.

Exactly!

Plus as far as I am concerned it is my game I paid $49.99 for and by god I should be able to play it as I see fit. If I want to solo I should be able to solo if I want to group I will group.

There is a sizable portion of the gaming community that is antisocial or at least on the fringe and they are under constant alienation my Anet with there incessant even obsessive undermining of the solo aspect of this game.

Personally I am getting sick of it, I am the type of person that absolutely does not like being told what to do and how to do it I don’t know to many who do. So Anet with their godlike authoritarian rule literally twisting we the players arms and forcing us to play how they Anet want us to play like we are nothing more than NPC’s in their own personal game just burns me up!

No. I'm absolutely against nerfing in any game. Because it always rewards the jealous complaining people who, for whatever reason, don't like it when others are having more success then they have theirselves. If something's really wrong with the balance the one and only solution is: make other professions/skills BETTER! So they can compete. And everyone had the freedom to copy this build so the reason mentioned by Anet was not correct.

As for the subject of making maps harder: its understandable it happens to prevent too much farming but its risky too: it disencourages players to play more than 1 chr. because they want to run through the allready known parts of the map as fast as they can... Completing the game once should at least give an opportunity to skip areas for the next chr's.

Double post content:

Yes! When I pay $49.99 I expect to be a young god in that game! And not an 'equal amongst equals' because when the mob starts moaning that someone or some build is too strong everything is equalized at once. Investigation and experience should be rewarded and those who sit back and relax using the 3 or 4 skills they ever tried out just dont deserve more than they have.

There is nothing stopping you from soloing. However, there is absolutely nothing wrong with game content being designed around groups. Maybe you should, I don't know, pick up a game that's balanced around single player content?

That's adorable.

They aren't forcing you to do anything, you can stop playing whenever you want.

Funny to see a troll speaking about troll protection.
Could all of you just descend from your "farming and soloing is the ultimate evil in the world"-trip and recognize it as what it is? It's a way to play the game. A way that is even allowed and welcomed by Arena.net.
I'm not quite sure how often i have to quote the several interviews and comments and screenshots to get it through YOUR thick skull. I'm in doubt a billion times would be enough.

But not for the lack of trying:
Arena.net thinks honest farming is okay
Arena.net thinks honest soloing is okay
I don't care backing up these arguments, for i'm quite sure i could quote every single interview passage and every single "Frog" Prophecy and you would still doubt it.


I might give you an example though, 105/55 does ring a bell doesn't it?

And while it is true that the nerf of protective bond brought the Monk Solo Adventures to a little pause, it is clearly to see that they didn't want to get rid of solo farming all together. They could have introduced a lot more healthdegen down there and cut the Aatxe Damage a bit. They could have put up NR Spirits in the Iceplanes. Hell they could even have placed a single 3 Mindblade Spectre Spawn on the way to the iceplanes. All of which would have stopped the UW Farming drop dead without making it more complicated for normal teams. Yet... did they do?
No, they fixed a spell that was to a high degree abusable. Do i need to repeat that? I guess i should do with other words:

NO NERF FOR THE 105/55 MONK BUT A NEEDED SKILLREBALANCE.

So could you antifarm fanatics stop singing halleluja and put your arms down? Thank you.

And after stating that... there is only one thing to say. Solo-Farming is no crime and it is not regarded as such by arena.net.
If you really care about the truth and are ready to step out of your "OMGz0r T3AMGAMz0r!" behaviour you can go and look up one developer even state he loves solofarming himself and it is all okay. But i'm not doing that for you, as i doubt fanatics will ever snap out of their nerf dreamworld.

If Arena.net wants to control the flow of farming. They have shown what their method really is. They don't change the possibility to farm at that place, nor do they make the mobs invincible and impossible to solo. If they are not pleased with an area being overused for its fabulous loot... they change the droptables. It is as easy as that. I'm just saying "Deserter" as an example here. Nothing has changed with that thing. But once you could get two-three golden items out of it with ease of use. Just rezone immediately back and forth. That thing could get you a lot of awesome items in no time. One day, with no update note coming... the loots where corrected and all fine.
They do not nerf to prohibit solofarming. They merely balance out what should allways have been balanced.

And, well yes, they adjust some mobs and places to the strength they should allways have been. I'm just saying scarabs here. Come one, killing those in hundreds without the slightest of problems could just not have been the way to go. This was not a challenge doing solo, it was even a mere joke when in a party.

And once again for the trolls and thickheads.
Farming is fine.
Soloing is fine.

GW might be a Teamgame at some places.
GW isn't ALLWAYS a teamgame.

Conclusion:
While A.net stated it is oky to farm, where do YOU take the justification from to say it is NOT?

Come on guys, don't get into arguments over, of all things, pve .

I'm sure ANet also believes it's ok to come up with a cure for cancer. Too bad it's almost impossible to do. If they really didn't mind people farming, they'd give people a reason to WANT to stay in teams rather than doing everything in their power to basically force you to join one. That way people would stop farming by choice instead of by force.

Stop believing ANet's lame rhetoric. Sure they don't mind people farming areas - only they scour fan forums for builds and locations to make unfarmable. Ok. Loving that logic and even moreso, am loving that they've actually gotten people to buy it. They are so caught up with their fight against botters that they are causing a sizeable chunk of their legit player population to become even more disenchanted in their efforts to stem replayability of their PvE world. Here's a sad fact, ANet: it takes forever to form a group of players who just want to walk around the world as a team to fight for fun. Nobody wants to join a group to farm for gold/xp/items in your overworld. NOBODY.

I can already envision what Grenth's Footprint and Sorrow's Furnace are going to look like, and I don't even need to wait for Wednesday for ideas. Picture a gigantic red blob and there's your compass. Red dots coast-to-coast! I'm certainly looking forward to seeing 15-monster mobs right outside the entrance to every area in the Summer Update. HAVE TO STOP THOSE DAMN BOTTERS!!!!

go ahead and solo then

have fun dying

if they want to play by themselves then why did they buy an online-only game?

hey guess what

it's their game

so deal with it or quit

or i guess you could come to a forum and whine that's good too

Yep and much like the official information put out by the company, much of it is misinformation, out of date, or just wrong. Prima is a third party who makes money off of writing guides and is not affiliated with ANY of the companies that they print guides for. They must also obtain rights to printing the guide as well, which is why you get all the anet stamps all over it.

But in all seriousness, you could be better off just reading off the homepage here and get a better picture of how the game works. Unless of course you dont know how to look at things like the game's keymapping, or know how to click the mouse.

This is where we differ.. I speak the truth of my gaming experience ( i have seen no change in drops and so thats what i say), you pin point out one pesron and disagree with them... Sadly your attack has failed, but i thank you anyways you droped what i was looking for, I now have +30 armor against trolls. So next time please keep your pesonal flames to PMs.

Anyways time to get back on topic..

Yes troll, it is funny to see how you totally dodged every argument. I've got proofs for balanced drops without a patchnote. Seriously, the deserter quest chestrun was the best example that they can change drops without doing an update for it alltogether. It just stopped spitting out rares from everyone of those 4-5 chests.
There is a difference between the typical "everything is getting nerfed" paranoia which is equal to the "everyone leaving a city is a bot" paranoia AND the true fact that some drops WERE changed due to balancing.


And a sidenote on stylistic means:
The word "you" can describe one person, but it can also describe a multiple of persons. And i'm quite sure it is quite clear that i was referring to everyone who is a antifarming fanatic. Don't think you're that much of an important troll that writing "you" and taking a piece of your trollbluberish (thick head) will point out i'm solely referring to you. Guess what? That's not the case.
And for the peace of all and the topic...

Conclusion:
Click here to go on with a troll free discussion.

Try finding people to party with you to farm? Most people are greedy and want all the drops, hench they like to solo more than party. Like how you feel when you duo a area with antoher guy and a gold item drops with the other's guy name on it.

If you can not tell im trying to ignore your comments so i stay out of trouble, i suggest you do the same. This thread was fine until you had to point out the one person who dose not believe in the top secret nerfing, I dodge nothing, on any other forum id gladly express my feelings on what you but im afraid i must hold back here,unlike some people. Odd.. the one person who disagrees with the secret nerfing theory is the only one accused of trolling. And yet no one mentions how this is like the 100th thread on unmentioned nerfs.

I still think all these "phantom nerfs" (not the monsters in the game but rather a term) are just bad luck, ive never had good enough luck finding "omg 100K gold felblade" but that does not mean anet is beating me a bloodly pulp with the dreaded bat of nerfing. I have my good drop days and my bad drop days, simple as that, no nerf bat included.

Thats silly, If I payed 49.99 for halo and I wanted a traditional CRPG should I be able to moan and complain it's a first person shooter? Of course not, it is a first persons shooter, was designed that way and marketed that way. Like wise guildwars is a team game - if you want to play with no other human characters there are henchman. Based on the box art/descrition you may be pissed that the henchman suck on several missions (box did promise otherwise and they do suck on some missions), but nowhere did it even give the impression that one can solo the game. In fact it was quite clear that it was a team game, that put me off for some time (thankfully I decided to give it a go anyways).

To note for your future gaming purchases, do not purchase an online game if you want a solo experience - bad idea. I've played games since the first pong game. I've seen the advent of online gaming and I have yet to see a commercial online game that stresses, or even makes easy, solo single player online gaming (why incure the cost of servers when it is easier and cheaper to just make it local?). In the future if a game requires an internet connection assume that solo play is going to be hard or impossible, and if found to be easy quickly nerfed. You will be a happier gamer if you stay away from those games and focus on non-internet based games. If you continue in this thought process of wanting online coopertive games to be solo-able you will be a VERY unhappy gamer.