Skills - Frenzy
Age
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Originally Posted by TheArrow
Plese refrain from ever posting anything that has even the slightest possible correlation with PvP. Also, uninstall life.
I am not in a high prestige Guild like yourself so in RA where I do my most PvPing there are more chances you will be without a Monk and back in beta Warriors fought Warriors.I have been trying it out in Aspenwood , Jade Quary,AB and now see how good it is on castors as long as I can cancel it.You may want to get a life and see the real world it helps you grow up.Nice new updated Avatar Savio.
Stupid Shizno
Age,
I never like calling anyone a newb, or bashing or anything, its not the shizno way. But wow, you are the exception. There are two reasons i ever call anyone a newb in this game, lack of understanding of efficiancy, and lack of energy management. you fall into catagory one. frenzy is used as an IAS to get your adren up, you spike with eves and executionars strike, thats the point. anyone, who has common sense would think, why bother with someone who's AL is over 80, when i can bash on a squishy? youve never comtemplated this before? most warrior builds come with frenzy and sprint. gosh i wonder why? lets see here, both are stances...guild wars wont let you stack stances, so could it be, sprint is used to kill frenzy AND chase down a foe? then comes bulls strike....which knocks down a moving foe, see how the whole build comes together? its not "run to group, wait for warrior to attack monk, then hit foe warrior with some lousey skill" and you dont need to be in some "leet" guild to understand this, all you need to do is stop googling the game, read the descriptions, and put it together.
as for the skill itself, i run frenzy in pvp, and pve. i run a W/A shadow step axe spike build. frenzy is the key to it, it works great. in pve i replace sprint for return. and in pvp i replace "to the limit" for recall. ive never ran into a problem using frenzy in either part of the game. infact, its ammusing watching a frenzy warrior go against a priest in thristy river, or destory an entire group of casters in fow. its great to run frenzy with "watch your self" in pve.
I never like calling anyone a newb, or bashing or anything, its not the shizno way. But wow, you are the exception. There are two reasons i ever call anyone a newb in this game, lack of understanding of efficiancy, and lack of energy management. you fall into catagory one. frenzy is used as an IAS to get your adren up, you spike with eves and executionars strike, thats the point. anyone, who has common sense would think, why bother with someone who's AL is over 80, when i can bash on a squishy? youve never comtemplated this before? most warrior builds come with frenzy and sprint. gosh i wonder why? lets see here, both are stances...guild wars wont let you stack stances, so could it be, sprint is used to kill frenzy AND chase down a foe? then comes bulls strike....which knocks down a moving foe, see how the whole build comes together? its not "run to group, wait for warrior to attack monk, then hit foe warrior with some lousey skill" and you dont need to be in some "leet" guild to understand this, all you need to do is stop googling the game, read the descriptions, and put it together.
as for the skill itself, i run frenzy in pvp, and pve. i run a W/A shadow step axe spike build. frenzy is the key to it, it works great. in pve i replace sprint for return. and in pvp i replace "to the limit" for recall. ive never ran into a problem using frenzy in either part of the game. infact, its ammusing watching a frenzy warrior go against a priest in thristy river, or destory an entire group of casters in fow. its great to run frenzy with "watch your self" in pve.
warriorsmiley
I love frenzy. I like tigers stance. I hate flurry and i hate bersekers stance. Love frenzy because when used right there is not a flaw in it frenzy use your skills hit sprint/rush cancel it and move on. Tigers stance i use when i pve just to get aderaline faster thats all other then that i stay away from it. Flurry 25% less damage please i rather be blinded attacking a target sitting in a ward vs melee. Berserkers stance i cant use a attack skill whats the point of the IAS then. Frenzy gets its bad rep because because dont know how to use it or cancel it. People assume "ZOMG iM a WaRRioR JoU CaNT KIll mE FRENZY FRENZY FRENZY" then there dead. Why they died they never canceled frenzy they sat there hitting someone meanwhile someone one else saw that hit them a few times and poof Mr. ZOMG is dead. If people learned how to cancel it they would see just how good it is.
Dragannia
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Originally Posted by Skuld
Because you can't use it when you want? Frenzy - 4 second recharge, Tiger's - 20 second recharge..
Numa when are you using this? without a monk?.. Tiger's Stance is usually used for spiking, while Frenzy is typically used to build adrenaline AND spike.
Numa when are you using this? without a monk?.. Tiger's Stance is usually used for spiking, while Frenzy is typically used to build adrenaline AND spike.
Terra Xin
I dont... I really dont get frenzy, maybe it's because i've used damage-focused builds too often against frenzy warriors, I just label them as an easy kill...
Age
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Originally Posted by Death3D
Age,
I never like calling anyone a newb, or bashing or anything, its not the shizno way. But wow, you are the exception. There are two reasons i ever call anyone a newb in this game, lack of understanding of efficiancy, and lack of energy management. you fall into catagory one. frenzy is used as an IAS to get your adren up, you spike with eves and executionars strike, thats the point. anyone, who has common sense would think, why bother with someone who's AL is over 80, when i can bash on a squishy? youve never comtemplated this before? most warrior builds come with frenzy and sprint. gosh i wonder why? lets see here, both are stances...guild wars wont let you stack stances, so could it be, sprint is used to kill frenzy AND chase down a foe? then comes bulls strike....which knocks down a moving foe, see how the whole build comes together? its not "run to group, wait for warrior to attack monk, then hit foe warrior with some lousey skill" and you dont need to be in some "leet" guild to understand this, all you need to do is stop googling the game, read the descriptions, and put it together.
as for the skill itself, i run frenzy in pvp, and pve. i run a W/A shadow step axe spike build. frenzy is the key to it, it works great. in pve i replace sprint for return. and in pvp i replace "to the limit" for recall. ive never ran into a problem using frenzy in either part of the game. infact, its ammusing watching a frenzy warrior go against a priest in thristy river, or destory an entire group of casters in fow. its great to run frenzy with "watch your self" in pve. I am starting to understand it more as I have been useing is Aspenwood and the Jade Quarry but I do use a sword.I tend to like swords personally as to thier historical use and playing Female it looks good when they wielding them.I uderstand stand it now as I thought it was just a skill used in pre not so much used in post.Axe would be my secound favourite weapon but I do prefer swords.I may post something about the differences in the off topic forum to the historicl uses of these weapons as well as hammers .
I never like calling anyone a newb, or bashing or anything, its not the shizno way. But wow, you are the exception. There are two reasons i ever call anyone a newb in this game, lack of understanding of efficiancy, and lack of energy management. you fall into catagory one. frenzy is used as an IAS to get your adren up, you spike with eves and executionars strike, thats the point. anyone, who has common sense would think, why bother with someone who's AL is over 80, when i can bash on a squishy? youve never comtemplated this before? most warrior builds come with frenzy and sprint. gosh i wonder why? lets see here, both are stances...guild wars wont let you stack stances, so could it be, sprint is used to kill frenzy AND chase down a foe? then comes bulls strike....which knocks down a moving foe, see how the whole build comes together? its not "run to group, wait for warrior to attack monk, then hit foe warrior with some lousey skill" and you dont need to be in some "leet" guild to understand this, all you need to do is stop googling the game, read the descriptions, and put it together.
as for the skill itself, i run frenzy in pvp, and pve. i run a W/A shadow step axe spike build. frenzy is the key to it, it works great. in pve i replace sprint for return. and in pvp i replace "to the limit" for recall. ive never ran into a problem using frenzy in either part of the game. infact, its ammusing watching a frenzy warrior go against a priest in thristy river, or destory an entire group of casters in fow. its great to run frenzy with "watch your self" in pve. I am starting to understand it more as I have been useing is Aspenwood and the Jade Quarry but I do use a sword.I tend to like swords personally as to thier historical use and playing Female it looks good when they wielding them.I uderstand stand it now as I thought it was just a skill used in pre not so much used in post.Axe would be my secound favourite weapon but I do prefer swords.I may post something about the differences in the off topic forum to the historicl uses of these weapons as well as hammers .
some guy
I never use it, I mainly use beserkers and tiger stance
Terra Xin
Only IW Mesmers, Rangers and Assassins should use tiger's stance... actually maybe not even assassins...
Former Ruling
So....Age got called a noob in this thread because he said as a warrior he has attacked other warriors, referencing a situation where attaking that warrior would help his team.
Where have I heard of something similar before.....Oh yea, in the Factions Championships. I guess when a high rank guild warrior does it EVERY match of the championships its cool and unique strategy, but when some "nobody" thinks of the same thing he is a "noob".
As for Arrow's comments about Flurry, Age mentioned pve before that statement, and in pve Flurry isn't bad at all (Warriors are usually just tanks anyway, and they can get faster adrenaline without taking more dmg). On the PvP side I can reference atleast 2 cases where Flurry is in main use in the build, 1 of which is a big build right now: IW Mesmers (mostly arena play) and Choking Gas Rangers >_>
Now i'm not totally defending him, But I don't think someone should be totally shot down and talked about in a thread for some off hand comments about Frenzy usage :\
Where have I heard of something similar before.....Oh yea, in the Factions Championships. I guess when a high rank guild warrior does it EVERY match of the championships its cool and unique strategy, but when some "nobody" thinks of the same thing he is a "noob".
As for Arrow's comments about Flurry, Age mentioned pve before that statement, and in pve Flurry isn't bad at all (Warriors are usually just tanks anyway, and they can get faster adrenaline without taking more dmg). On the PvP side I can reference atleast 2 cases where Flurry is in main use in the build, 1 of which is a big build right now: IW Mesmers (mostly arena play) and Choking Gas Rangers >_>
Now i'm not totally defending him, But I don't think someone should be totally shot down and talked about in a thread for some off hand comments about Frenzy usage :\
yesitsrob
frenzy is my favourite skill on my warriors bar. it never leaves it. None of the other IAS skills are at the same level of it.
I suppose in some odd cases i run without an IAS - but when I do run an IAS it will be frenzy.
Just gotta watch out for blackouts and warriors falling on to you - being blacked out in frenzy is a nasty trick.
The double damage is a little bit of a risk which is very very very much worth taking.
I suppose in some odd cases i run without an IAS - but when I do run an IAS it will be frenzy.
Just gotta watch out for blackouts and warriors falling on to you - being blacked out in frenzy is a nasty trick.
The double damage is a little bit of a risk which is very very very much worth taking.
Wild Karrde
Ok, so far I've seen either
a) Frenzy is the best skill ever, and your noob if you cant use it (meaning the person posting this is so leet)
or
b) I dont like frenzy at all there are better skills to use. (meaning this person is a noob to the afor mentioned people)
Im getting sick of this debate. All you people who brag about being able to use frenzy like your the best warrior in the game is rediculous. I can see your heads growing exponentially in size as you say its the best skill and your a noob if you cant use it. Ok you like it, you dont need to brag about it by posting it over and over in every thread about frenzy.
Frenzy is a great skill in some cases and a "your an idiot" skill in others.
In GvG, or arenas where a warrior isnt the primary focus sure its great, but in PvE or something like AB, your an idiot if you bring it. In PvE your usually the first to be attacked and you usually wont have much time when you arent getting beat on. In AB there isnt usually primary targets, unless there is a monk in the group, If youre there youre a target, especially with all the melee hate and all the assassins and warriors trying to see whos the better killer. There maybe a few seconds to use it but you'd soon come underfire and have to cancel with sprint, and then wait 20 seconds for sprint to recharge to use it again safely.
So if you do use it you increas your DPS by 50% but look at how long it lasts, maybe you get lucky and dont get attacked by anyone for those 8 seconds Frenzy is active, but what are you attacking when you frenzy? a caster or a monk? how many teams are going to let you beat on their monk for extended periods of time? not many unless they want to loose. So you start beating on said monk, monk says HELP ME! people then target you to get them off monk at wich point you have to cancel Frenzy, so you had it active for maybe 4 seconds, then you have to wait 20 seconds for the cancel stance to recharge b4 using it again safely. Why not use Enraging Charge + Flail. You get to your target quickly and you gain adrenaline every time you use it,and you can immediatly activate flail and keep it up with out worrying about getting hit wtih double dmg, but you move 33% slower, and you have to wait 20 seconds for Enraging charge to recharge to use it to catch a runner. So its a trade off. What do you go for Frenzy + sprint, or Flail + Enraging charge. or maybe some other combination, whatever it is its what YOU want, so stop trying to scream out your point on every frenzy debate.
So Its been posted OVER AND OVER AND OVER that Frenzy is a Love/Hate skill so can we stop this stupid debate, no one is gointg to be able to convince everyone else its one or the other, You all have made your point many times over and over, what is posting it once more going to do besides start another argument?
a) Frenzy is the best skill ever, and your noob if you cant use it (meaning the person posting this is so leet)
or
b) I dont like frenzy at all there are better skills to use. (meaning this person is a noob to the afor mentioned people)
Im getting sick of this debate. All you people who brag about being able to use frenzy like your the best warrior in the game is rediculous. I can see your heads growing exponentially in size as you say its the best skill and your a noob if you cant use it. Ok you like it, you dont need to brag about it by posting it over and over in every thread about frenzy.
Frenzy is a great skill in some cases and a "your an idiot" skill in others.
In GvG, or arenas where a warrior isnt the primary focus sure its great, but in PvE or something like AB, your an idiot if you bring it. In PvE your usually the first to be attacked and you usually wont have much time when you arent getting beat on. In AB there isnt usually primary targets, unless there is a monk in the group, If youre there youre a target, especially with all the melee hate and all the assassins and warriors trying to see whos the better killer. There maybe a few seconds to use it but you'd soon come underfire and have to cancel with sprint, and then wait 20 seconds for sprint to recharge to use it again safely.
So if you do use it you increas your DPS by 50% but look at how long it lasts, maybe you get lucky and dont get attacked by anyone for those 8 seconds Frenzy is active, but what are you attacking when you frenzy? a caster or a monk? how many teams are going to let you beat on their monk for extended periods of time? not many unless they want to loose. So you start beating on said monk, monk says HELP ME! people then target you to get them off monk at wich point you have to cancel Frenzy, so you had it active for maybe 4 seconds, then you have to wait 20 seconds for the cancel stance to recharge b4 using it again safely. Why not use Enraging Charge + Flail. You get to your target quickly and you gain adrenaline every time you use it,and you can immediatly activate flail and keep it up with out worrying about getting hit wtih double dmg, but you move 33% slower, and you have to wait 20 seconds for Enraging charge to recharge to use it to catch a runner. So its a trade off. What do you go for Frenzy + sprint, or Flail + Enraging charge. or maybe some other combination, whatever it is its what YOU want, so stop trying to scream out your point on every frenzy debate.
So Its been posted OVER AND OVER AND OVER that Frenzy is a Love/Hate skill so can we stop this stupid debate, no one is gointg to be able to convince everyone else its one or the other, You all have made your point many times over and over, what is posting it once more going to do besides start another argument?
Lord Natural
Why have a discussion about Frenzy in a PvE sub-forum? Frenzy is about as practical as Otyugh's Cry in PvE. The only time it's useful is if you're a level 20 warrior helping somebody do The Great Northern Wall, or some crap like that.
Frenzy is still the best IAS skill for a warrior in PvP, and is great in the right hands. Flail is probably second, if the team build is snare heavy. Tiger Stance is a joke.
Frenzy is still the best IAS skill for a warrior in PvP, and is great in the right hands. Flail is probably second, if the team build is snare heavy. Tiger Stance is a joke.
ss1986v2
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Originally Posted by Wild Karrde
irony ftw!
Div
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Originally Posted by ss1986v2
isnt posting that in a 6 month old thread doing just that?
irony ftw! Some people get a sense of accomplishment by reviving half year or year old threads...=)
irony ftw! Some people get a sense of accomplishment by reviving half year or year old threads...=)
samcobra
Real Men Run With Frenzy.
Optimas calith
From What I've read, Frenzy is awsome. And i belive that its true that it speeds up most if not all skills. Lol back when i was first starting i used frenzy then healing sig to keep me alive. not too good 
double damage and -40 armour when you have only say 30.... Not good. I think i may start to experiment abit with this rad skill. Ive never botherd but i will now. 
frenzy all the way!! Oh And yeah i love re opening dead and buried threads too. like walking through a deserted version of sydney
double damage and -40 armour when you have only say 30.... Not good. I think i may start to experiment abit with this rad skill. Ive never botherd but i will now. frenzy all the way!! Oh And yeah i love re opening dead and buried threads too. like walking through a deserted version of sydney
twistdshade
Frenzy= YOU TAKE 2X DAMMAGE!!
Healing sig= -40 Armor
Frenzy + Healing Signet = Dead Warior
Go ahead and use it in pvp, makes it even easyer for my ranger 'Twistd Shadow' to kill you
.... noob
Healing sig= -40 Armor
Frenzy + Healing Signet = Dead Warior
Go ahead and use it in pvp, makes it even easyer for my ranger 'Twistd Shadow' to kill you
.... noob
Div
Why must you resurrect a thread that's ages old?...
Every knows frenzy healsig is leet. End of story.
Every knows frenzy healsig is leet. End of story.
Faer
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Originally Posted by Optimas calith
And i belive that its true that it speeds up most if not all skills.
You are living a lie.
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Toilet Oni
Frenzy is the primary dmg source of manny warrior builds, all hands down for frenzy
Kokuyougan
Try Frenzy+Critical Defences at 12 Critical Strikes, it keeps refreshing...just watch out for casters.
Perfected Shadow
In PvE, mobs are stationary: [skill=text]Flail[/skill] looks better to me (with a cancel of course when the monster dies).
I liked Frenzy with Ranger, that is before the Expertise nerf.
I liked Frenzy with Ranger, that is before the Expertise nerf.
Bowstring Badass
Frenzy+heal Sig Is Bestest Combo Eva!!11!!!1111shift!!!!11!one!!!11!!!