farmimg chars.

The Pirate

The Pirate

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Demon Armie

N/W

i heard that monks were the best at farming is that true? If so then does that ean that i have a good chance at getting things when i farm because i have monk as a second profession? Or does your second class not efest you when it comes down to farming because in that case im a warrie how are they as far as farming goes?

morgothstark

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Israel

Megalodon Riders

W/E

From what i know, Monks are good farmer.

Those who do farming usualy do that alone, and because of that they keep all the items the mobs drop.

I have a W/M that can be built to be a farmer. It can farm Griffons/Tengu/Hydras and more.

The fact that monk is only secondary proffesion makes no difference with these mobs since It have Balthazar Aura (or spirit) or Bonetti's defence to regenerate energy, and some enchantments that give health for every successful strike at foe.

There is a combo of Monk/Mesmer that can farm Hydras very easy, although i never tried it.

For conclusion, W/M can farm pretty well, depend on the creatures you would like to farm

achill3z

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/Mo

sorry for the n00bish nature of this question, but what is farming....? *puts on flame resistant suit*

Kazahana

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

SoCal

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pirate
i heard that monks were the best at farming is that true? If so then does that ean that i have a good chance at getting things when i farm because i have monk as a second profession? ?

the reason they say monks are good for farming is because a monk can do it easier since they can heal themself well not because they get better drops or something like you seem to have mistaken

Kamatsu

Kamatsu

Moderator

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

farming is exactly what it implies.. you buy seeds and go plant it.. j/k

Seriously tho, farming is where you repeatedly attack the same area/group/monsters over and over and over to get their drops, gold, xp. For example, if someone were to leave the Ice-Tooth Caves and aggro a whole bunch of minotaurs and kill them and then repeat that.. they would then be said to be farming the minotaurs..

Understand?

Cobalt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

Farming is going out and killing specific creatures for drops.



Monks were the elite now take a lot of work to farm

Warriors are good

Ele’s can farm, they can kill some creatures that monks and wars can’t

Even talented Necros can do a bit of farming

Mr Zun

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Twin Dragons

E/N

Farmin means going out to a certain area and killing as many mobs as possible in as little time as possible and getting evrything they drop ( wich can be pretty good stuff some times ) the only condition is u have to do it alone, i.e. no henchies or anyone.

Kaleal

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/Mo

Farming is the process of repeatedly killing mobs (computer controlled creatures) in order to get their money and loot. That is what I understand it to be at least, but there may be some techinicality that I haven't picked up on as of yet.

The idea behind farming is to kill as many monsters that drop decent stuff as quickly as possible. In general there will be a specific mob that drops highly desireable equipment, and it will then be farmed in order to have the best chance of getting said equipment. So, when people say one profession is better at farming than another, all they are saying is they think that profession is more effective at cleaning out the baddies.

As mogothstark said, usually people want to farm alone so that they can keep all of the loot. At this point it becomes very important to have a character that can take on the mobs by himself. In general, monks (primary or secondary) can heal themselves and keep alive longer than other builds. Of course, each build can be played so many different ways, probably you could find a skill set that would allow you to solo fairly well.

While farming is not illegal, it appears to not be a desireable act by the makers of the game. Some of the updates appear to be directed at stopping the more successful farming builds, thus forcing players to find additional party members to help them. I am not sure about this, but I think I've heard mutterings. Someone else may want to comment.

sandstorm87

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobalt
Farming is going out and killing specific creatures for drops.



Monks were the elite now take a lot of work to farm

Warriors are good

Ele’s can farm, they can kill some creatures that monks and wars can’t

Even talented Necros can do a bit of farming

You're not saying that mesmers can farm, is that because you don't know or is it because they just can't.

I'm a mesmer/necromancer now and i can kill some minotaurs and a lot of chars before going down myself. So it should be possible to go and farm, right?

hotspur

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

England

New Dragons

W/Mo

All proffesions can farm. As was stated earlier its just a matter of matching your skillset to the monsters you are trying to kill. This can take a while because you will have to experiment, but when you hit the right set it pays off big time.

keith

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

GA

N/A

E/R

Elementalists are the best and quickest in my opinion. Here's how:

Attribute of Fire 15
Healing: 8
Equip:
Mending
Healing breeze
Inferno
Fireball
Meteorstorm
Firestorm
Flare

Normally, you can drop a group of warriors, with inferno then fireball 1shot each
Bowman: Fireball and 1 or 2 flares
Shaman and Mesmers 1 shot of Fireball

I can run through the fort Ranik mission in about 20-25 minutes, NOT using catapults at the end (iF you use catapult you will get no drops, If you fight, each one will drop something) Average about 15 charr hides a run

Fye Duron

Fye Duron

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Chico, CA, USA

Dragon Fang

Monks make the easiest and best farmers still. And are very easy to group with while not farming :P

sandstorm87

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Is there an mesmer attack that can hit more then 1 foe at once?
I have watched the skills of mesmers but i can't find it!

I know this isn't the place to be asking this but the answer would really come in handy with my farming plans!

Jenosavel

Jenosavel

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Jul 2005

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Chaos Storm and Shatter Hex come to mind right away. I've never farmed with my mesmers (prefer my warrior for farming), so I can't tell you if those skills will be any use to you... though Shatter Hex, at least, can do some hefty damage.

sandstorm87

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

yeah k
i know about those but they are both domination and im sort of looking for illusion skills, but thanx for the answer

keith

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

GA

N/A

E/R

Speaking of Farming with a warrior....A guy took me in the ice caves past Dronars to farm 15 ice trolls ALL AT ONCE and his health never got past 3/4 full. I got his build but looking for different builds to farm different things....Any suggestions? And what type of farming is it good for?

bor3d

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/Mo

i refer you to http://guildwars.gameamp.com/video/v...7.php!orderBy=

nailz

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobalt
Farming is going out and killing specific creatures for drops.



Monks were the elite now take a lot of work to farm

Warriors are good

Ele’s can farm, they can kill some creatures that monks and wars can’t

Even talented Necros can do a bit of farming

it takes me less time to farm with my monk...no more waiting for a lvl17 cast on prot bond.

achill3z

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/Mo

ok, another quick question....do certain professions cause mobs to drop different items...i guess another way to ask my question is, will a warrior make a hydra drop something and a ranger makes it drop something totally different? or is it pretty much a crap shoot either way?

sidepocket13

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

New England

Metallica Roadies

Mo/Me

crap shoot

Lemmy

Lemmy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by achill3z
ok, another quick question....do certain professions cause mobs to drop different items...i guess another way to ask my question is, will a warrior make a hydra drop something and a ranger makes it drop something totally different? or is it pretty much a crap shoot either way?
As my experience says, drops is independed from character class you kill mobs. I was farming on wind rider like mobs near seeker's and they seem to drop similar stuff all the time with monk/ele/mesmer primary classes (but I have no formal proof for that)

Quote:
Originally Posted by sandstorm87
You're not saying that mesmers can farm, is that because you don't know or is it because they just can't.
I can assure you that mesmers can farm very effectively, I personally like to solo Mahgo Hydras in perdition rock, I can handle up to 4-5 hydras at the time. It is just quite tricky to do it (most people prefer to stay in one place and press the same combination of keys). I do it because I like to play mesmer (my favorite class) and it is not so boring like monk or w/mo, etc.
Just I want to say "illusion is your friend", you can use degen+slow (crippling+conjure phantasm+phantom pain with mantra of persistence) and illusion of haste when it gets too hot
Another way is IW+distortion+spirit of failure (which seems to work nice against some kind of mobs)
Problem is that people would want to easy get a lot of money (maybe even get 1p each time when key P is pressed :P ) Where is the fun that is comming from playing?
I also believe that slowing down water ele or heavy armored earth can be great (and fun) for farming though I didn't tried it yet.
Key is to experience with your own setup, char that you like to play most and what is most important: get fun of it!!!

suicidal

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/Mo

I'm fairly new to Guild Wars and have heard a lot about farming. I'm still not sure how to use my skills completely.

Could someone post a good Warrior/Monk farm build? I'm currently Sword specialist, but i've noticed that a lot of the more serious warriors aren't.

any help would be appreciated

Venus

Venus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Me/Mo

My farmer is my W/N (curses/axe)

ChoKILLate[FDG]

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

[FDG]-Fudge

Mo/Me

This is farming:


After:

The Pirate

The Pirate

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Demon Armie

N/W

frickin sweet shot dude. Great job

Xero Silvam

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Holland

PM me if you want to know

Mo/

Clap Clap. U can kill 25 lvl 9 Minos outside of ice tooth caves! On to the griffons and Aataxes!

BlacKeYe07

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/Mo

how can i solo hydras with a w/mo ?

Drognan

Drognan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Jackson, TN

The Hellplague

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by suicidal
I'm fairly new to Guild Wars and have heard a lot about farming. I'm still not sure how to use my skills completely.

Could someone post a good Warrior/Monk farm build? I'm currently Sword specialist, but i've noticed that a lot of the more serious warriors aren't.

any help would be appreciated

This is one of my earlier builds:

Sword Warrior Build:

It is very easy for a Wa/Mo to make, and is virtually foolproof....

First off, my Armament is All Platemail set, except for the boots, which are Knight's. All Major Runes (Vigor, Tactics, Strength, Swordsmanship, Absorption). I wield a simple Spatha of Defense (15% while enchanted / +5 Armor) and the collector Crimson (+45 health while enchanted / -2 dmg enchanted).

I have 2 in Smiting, 9 in Strength, 14 Swordsmanship, and 13 Tactics.

Skill set is as follows (in order from left to right).....

Galrath Slash, Power Strike, Bonnetti's Defense, Gladiator's Defense, Watchful Spirit, Balthatzar's Spirit, Healing Signet, and Sprint(optional; used to get away from Rockshots [ their disrupts SUCK] , alternately drop some strength and increase smiting, and replace Sprint with Symbol of Wrath)......in that order.

1. Start with Spirits

2. Run into group, attack for a min., use Bonnetti's, gain energy, while attacking.

3. Galrath then Power, when Bonnetti's is about to go off, and it will recharge Bonnetti's.

4. Then hit Gladiator's, when it becomes available (And Symbol of Wrath, if you have opted to put that in the place of Sprint.

5. Healing Signet while Gladiator's is on.

Repeat steps 2 and 3, until Glad's is back up, then hit it again.
If your health gets low for any reason, hit Healing Signet, while Gladiator's is on.

Repeat and Farm solo forever. I am up to 97k now, not to mention the numerous killer Golds I have found, and the numerous Dune Borrower Jaws and Minotaur Horns I get from the solo Elona Reach mission run (just the first part). If you are ever on, and want to see some of the stuff I collect, or want to see me in action, my main farmer is Synthia Starstriker.

I have since done things a bit differently, but it requires precise timing to stay alive......

All equipment is the same, Atts are a bit different:

Smiting 8
Strength 9
Swordmanship 13
Tactics 12

OK. Here's the plot line:

Mostly minotaurs and griffons......

1. Start with Spirits
2. Run in and take enough hits to get 10 energy.
3. Gladiator's Defense and Symbol of Wrath.
4. Build up Bonetti's and use it.
5. Build up Bonettis again and use Balthazar's Aura, then hit Bonetti's 2 seconds later.

Rinse and repeat, just make sure to keep Bonetti's going, while Gladiator's Defense is charging up.

My 2 cents.

IGN: Synthia Starstriker

_necroangel_

_necroangel_

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Sin City

Ecks Di (XD)

W/N

Yea, so far that I've noticed monks seem to be the most effective...But you still don't have to use Mo/W to farm...I farm quite nicely with my Mo/N, even in UW still...You just have to take things easy and prepare yourself for the worse...And juicing up your divine favor helps out a lot too, because practically ever monk spell you use will heal you when you are farming, save the sigs cuz those don't heal you...I've also experimented with my own necro...I don't want to leak out too much info...(hehe)...But AOTL has become sorta like a prot. spirit...My normal farming spots are out in the desert when I am not in UW and occasionally sorrows...

_necroangel_

_necroangel_

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Sin City

Ecks Di (XD)

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaleal
While farming is not illegal, it appears to not be a desireable act by the makers of the game. Some of the updates appear to be directed at stopping the more successful farming builds, thus forcing players to find additional party members to help them. I am not sure about this, but I think I've heard mutterings. Someone else may want to comment.
I just wanted to make a comment about that...Even though spells and such have been "fixed," Anet doesn't have a problem with people farming...I think it's more like they wanted to make things fair for everyone else...(Sorry bout the double post)

ChoKILLate[FDG]

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

[FDG]-Fudge

Mo/Me

1.) Never use a sword to farm when you are a warrior.
2.) I farm the snow minataurs for dyes...see my pic above....nothing else.
3.) For gold, and xp I farm the griffons and desert area.

I saw another locked thread where someone was farming with a sword and 100 blades. That is a good skill but not as good as an axe because:

1.) Cyclone axe has a wider area of attack than 100blades (full 360)
2.) Cyclone axe has a faster recharge time.
3.) Cyclone does extra damage to all adjacent, while 100 only does extra damage to the foe (hits 2x) and then hits all adjacent at normal weapon damage.
4.) Hundred is an elite, and having cyclone frees you up for shield of judgement or healing hands.
5.) You can't get 100 blades until the very last mission!

Drognan

Drognan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Jackson, TN

The Hellplague

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChoKILLate[FDG]
1.) Never use a sword to farm when you are a warrior.
I agree that Cyclone Axe is a worthy skill, and I would probably kill faster with it, but I still like my sword. It is a 10/10 Sundering, 15%^50, +6 Def against Physical Sword, so I will stick with farming with it. Besides, with SoW and BA I can take out most melee enemies ([Elona Reach]Minos and Desert Griffons) fairly quickly. Thanks for the tips on using the Axe though.

IGN: Synthia Starstriker

ChoKILLate[FDG]

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

[FDG]-Fudge

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drognan
I agree that Cyclone Axe is a worthy skill, and I would probably kill faster with it, but I still like my sword. It is a 10/10 Sundering, 15%^50, +6 Def against Physical Sword, so I will stick with farming with it. Besides, with SoW and BA I can take out most melee enemies ([Elona Reach]Minos and Desert Griffons) fairly quickly. Thanks for the tips on using the Axe though.

IGN: Synthia Starstriker

When I farm, I do not put a lot of attribute points into my axe mastery, so I need one with low requirements. The axe is primarily used to gain health per hit and to get bonetti D up as fast as possible, so cyclone is the best skill for this.

I use a max damage gold axe that +15% damage while enchanted, 15% armor penetration (20% chance), and enchantments last 20% longer. The enchanted part is important because I maintain an enchantement on me and kill with Balthazar's Aura. Normally this last 10sec, but now lasts 12 sec and does a total of 240 damage to each creature!

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChoKILLate[FDG]
I use a max damage gold axe that +15% damage while enchanted, 15% armor penetration (20% chance), and enchantments last 20% longer.
mind sharing how you get the 15/20 sundering haft?

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by striderkaaru
mind sharing how you get the 15/20 sundering haft?
Sign me up for one! I bid 100k + 50 ecto on the imaginary mod!

Drognan

Drognan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Jackson, TN

The Hellplague

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by striderkaaru
mind sharing how you get the 15/20 sundering haft?

Yeah, I'd like to see a screenshot of that.....

Arukima

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

Absolutely Vicious Assasins

Mo/W



All level 21s. That's the basis of farming. (As you can see, there are no party members I have to split the loot with.)

Alone)

Alone)

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Campbell, California

Legio Imortalii

W/Mo

The picture you put up Arukima doesn't show any basis of farming.

There ONLY best build that works for one person is a build that one can use easiest. One just has to know their limits. Either best in a group, or best alone. Knowing where to go, when to go, and who against is what you feel easiest doing. All these are suggestions, but many of the statements above are not facts.

In somewhat replies above.

1. Weapon of choice doesn't matter. But it is determined by your build. An elementalist/monk can use an axe that has a 20% enchantment lasting longer if that person prefers it. For skills, also by preference. You heal more with hundred blades and than cyclone axe if you were to put vigorous spirit and live vicariously IF you know how to position the enemy right in front of you. Anything else goes, just as long as it works for you.

2. Drops are completely random. Obviously with some certain factors. What can affect the type of drops is the type of enemy, what item drops it normally drops (weapons? armor? collector items?). How many times you have killed them (Anet gametip summary: Don't keep going to the same place over and over, monsters need to stock back up on items. So play maps "normally."

3. Patience and the will to commit the time into farming is also an important factor. Just because one farms doesn't mean one can reach up to 100k a day. For all those who say they get rich easy and quick, is only because it took them awhile to get to where they are now. Don't expect to do so well so quickly. If you do succeed your first few tries, good job.

4. Knowing the maps, knowing the enemy, and know when too much is too much.

5. As much as trading can make a quick plat, do not spend your time typing something related to: "WTS GODLY *ITEM*" For one obvious reason, you can be getting more items than the time you could be typing that one sentence.

6. Enjoy the frickin game. Don't spend hours upon hours trying to get rich, because that isn't the point. Go do PvP instead, go out with friends, go play ball, get a girlfriend/boyfriend. Sitting on one's ass whole time trying to make IN game money can be fullfilling, but is it fullfilling in the longrun?

ChoKILLate[FDG]

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

[FDG]-Fudge

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by striderkaaru
mind sharing how you get the 15/20 sundering haft?
Sorry, I guess I was mixing the first and last percentages together to get the middle one?! I was trying to remember it off the top of my head while I was at work. It is actually a 10/10 sundering. Thanks for keeping me on the straight and narrow....and if I come across one for real, its gonna cost ya more than 100k and 50 ecto.

ChoKILLate[FDG]

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

[FDG]-Fudge

Mo/Me

Arukima,

No offense but that is a pretty crappy drop. Here is what you want to see during a farming run: