It's impossible to find groups for anything

After spending two days in the ToA looking for a group for FoW as a tank (Only finding 1 group), 4 days with an E/mo smiter in Tombs looking for a smiter group (only found 2, both never made it past the first PvP battle, only 1 had ts) and 1 day as a HEALING MONK in tombs (only found 1 group, spikers, got 2% moral and died on first PvP battle), I have concluded that it is now impossilbe to find a group for ANYTHING that requires 8 players.

Everyone is soloing UW and FoW; hardly any groups to be found. Everyone is making terrible SPIKE GROUPS with NO TS, NO VENT, after spiking got terribly "nerfed". Anybody should know that Smiting is better now, atleast.

If Sorrow's Furnace gets henchmen, why don't Tombs and Fow/UW? O.O

Form your own groups. My friend list is filled with people who've been on UW/FoW runs with me. And I'm a W/Me of all things. You just need a better way to recruit.

Just curious, what is your rank/fame?

Maybe thats why your getting crappy groups

Rank and Fame deal with the tournament, what would they have to do with FoW or UW?

I've been in some great R1/2-PUG's but also in an awfull R4-group. Rank/Fame doesn't say much about the capacity of a group. Advertising "R2 Healer (or something) is nice, because it tells others you are somehow an active PvP-player. Advertising "R3++ Group LFP NO NOOBS under R3!!!!11two" is useless.

/On Topic:
1. For PvP:
If the group ask you for your skillbar, it shows that they are serious and prepared. Same goes for ppl that give you TS/Vent-info, rearrange groups (first Wa, last Mo) or decide who calls (decides BEFORE going in).

2. For PvE:
Almost the same Use Guildies. Or put ppl on your friendslist: after completing a mission in 1 try (even with 60DP etc.) AND having a friendly chat with them, I ask ppl if I can put them on my friendslist so I know who to join/ask for missions later on in this game.

Peps Rank Doesnt Matter ^^ U See Me Dont U

and Fow is fun to test if u have good teamwork
u can find groups just take patience i easily find groups

also pugs are good too u know peps
i got into a pug that got to hoh but we lost to i think it was RICE
my friends list are full of PvP only people
including peps/nublar/etc
lol rank 1-2's are awesome u see I LIke Popcorn
when he was UBER NUUUUBER
he was rank 3 i think
spamming Need Rank 6+ People for Group
and when he got rank 4 everyone was like... wtf man ur rank 4.. and he got his rank 6 then lol

Methinks its people like you that are the problem, how is someone supposed to achieve a high rank without first being of low level, i have been stuck on rank 2, fame 134 for two weeks because of all the elitist snobs in tombs who want "rank 3+ goups".

You think finding a group with TS is hard... try finding one without TS... i swear i spend days looking for a group only to have 3 of them leave duing the unworthy part...

Haha, I completely see your point, and I have LOTS of friends who complain the same way. I personally remember working hard with american pugs all the way ro rank 3(some help from guild). But since I've been playing since the game came out, I'm sure all of the good players who were still working on pvp were rank 2-3 as well.

Also: TRY INTERNATIONAL DISTRICTS. I had a friend(well kind of a friend, our pugs fought in underworld and i steamrolled him) who had the same problem, and i pointed him to international districts. Not only do you not need ts/vent for alot of gorups(koreans or other languages) but the people there seem more mature. If you are still having problems with int d1, I think everyone else might not be the problem

If you have problems finding groups join an active PvP/PvE guild.

So basically, you're either too noob to win, or you're an elitist snob. Good logic there bud. This is exactly why I play in guild groups or rank 6+ pugs, or with my friends.