Sorrow's Furnace = Mines of Moria (LOTR)?

navymrgoodbar

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Does anyone notice the similarities of both?

1. Dwarven mines.
2. Lots o' strong monsters.
3. Lots o' goodies!

Thought I wasn't the only one.

L33t Masta

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I did as a matter o fact!

Kamatsu

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1. Dwarves are dead & the good guys in Mines of Moria while Dwarves are alive and the enemy in Sorrow's furnace.
2. Anyone see resemblance between big badass Stone Summit iron golem thingy which comes out the wall in a burst of flames and the big badass flaming Balrog which comes at them in big burst's of flame?
3. No goodies in Mines of moria just a whole lotta goblins and orcs and dead dwarves

Seriously though, you can take any part of Guild Wars and compare it to other fantasy settings - there will always be something that directly corralates to something else.

Like another LOTR example - Stormcaller. Remember in the Two Towers when the orcs were sieging the people of Rohan in their fort? They sounded the great horn which helped them fight the orcs in the end? And gee.. guess what you do to help end the siege of Rin? Blow Stormcaller which weakens the Charr..

Talk about a real ripoff of LOTR

HappySuicide

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Also lighting the torches on the mountain to warn the neigboring town in Borlis Pass, kinda like the whole Rohan, Gondor thing there

Massassi

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all fantasy games and stories are rip offs of either D&D or LOTR because they were the first and are completely unmatchable in greatness.

Mavrik

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Originally Posted by HappySuicide
Also lighting the torches on the mountain to warn the neigboring town in Borlis Pass, kinda like the whole Rohan, Gondor thing there
That was the main reason I loved Frost Gate mission so much was the lighting of the torches. I think that was the Frost Gate mission... either way you know what one is being talked about haha.

zoozoc

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Originally Posted by Massassi
all fantasy games and stories are rip offs of either D&D or LOTR because they were the first and are completely unmachable in greatness.
That statement is so true. Especially about LOTR. I'm not talking about the movies, i'm talking about the books. They were the best.(though the movies wern't bad either)

Melkor of ZoSo

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I thought it was delayed until the 9th?

Mavrik

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I never read any of the LoTR books or what not. I was/am still, a huge Terry Brooks fan. I have based my own writing losely off that influence.

Massassi

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Originally Posted by zoozoc
That statement is so true. Especially about LOTR. I'm not talking about the movies, i'm talking about the books. They were the best.(though the movies wern't bad either)
Bah, to the movies they cut out the most influental character and the most satisfiing scene.

Mavrik

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well keep in mind they could only cram so much of the books into the films.

Xanatos786

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I was/am still, a huge Terry Brooks fan.
Well if you've read Sword of Shannara you pretty much know the plot of LotR because, no offense, don't mean to flame or anything, and I actually like Terry Brooks too, but it's generally acknowledged that Sword of Shannara was pretty much a paraphrase of LotR with diff names.

To be fair to ANet, they have at least claimed that they refuse to incorporate Elves in their world because they are overused...

Massassi

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...elves are overused but dwarves aren't?

navymrgoodbar

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Massassi
...elves are overused but dwarves aren't?
True.

On the other hand, why don't they use "little people"? After all, the only mentioning of halflings are in D&D and LOTR.

ayb

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Originally Posted by Massassi
Bah, to the movies they cut out the most influental character and the most satisfiing scene.
which character would that be?

keith

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I wish i could share the same view on LOTR. There are lots of similarities. But one really cool thing not mentioned....i never got to play LOTR....Im jammin on this one...I like playing much better than watching...

I think elves would be a nice addition....i havent played one of those. I think WE should have the choice of the build. After all, you dont have to use the character...just nice option.

DOnt get me wrong.....love LOTR.......Love guild wars.....No complaints with either. Regardless of similarities

Mugon M. Musashi

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Originally Posted by Xanatos786
To be fair to ANet, they have at least claimed that they refuse to incorporate Elves in their world because they are overused...
humans are so much more overused :P

Mavrik

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xanatos786
Well if you've read Sword of Shannara you pretty much know the plot of LotR because, no offense, don't mean to flame or anything, and I actually like Terry Brooks too, but it's generally acknowledged that Sword of Shannara was pretty much a paraphrase of LotR with diff names.

To be fair to ANet, they have at least claimed that they refuse to incorporate Elves in their world because they are overused...
The Shannara series is my fav and I never read the LoTR books to see any comparison between it and the Shannara books. Its possible there are connections, I can't say there isn't as I have no actual knowledge of LoTR books.

Priest_Ezekiel

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i want to be a dwarf. my character gimli would be perfect then

Volarian

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the ENTIRE Shannarra series' are freaking awesome!!!

I've never read the LoTR books but am well aware who laid the foundation for fantasy novels as we know them, but having ready Terry Brooks, Terry Goodkind, Robert Jordan & David Farland......I'd always dreamt of seeing the stories on the big screen.....and LoTR series did it justice considering all of the book content they had to take into account.


Mavrik - Have you seen the LoTR movies? If you have then it's evident that Terry Brooks followed a blueprint:

2 smallish and unassuming characters are thrust into a struggle between ultimate good and evil. Initially guided by an all knowing Sage like character and later joined by a Rogue type, Elven hero, dwarven outcast and a Warrior type - Rogue=Aragorn, Elf - Legolas, Dwarf - Gimli, Warrior - Boramir and the ever present Sage - Gandolf.

Now lets look at Shannarra: Sage - Allanon, Rogue-they differ from book to book but typically are a Freeborn type person or Rover, Elf - typically from the Royal House of Ellesdils, Dwarf again they are always present and play dif roles per storyline. And of course the focal point of all stories, the unassuming/vanilla charater(s) - an Ohmsford who either by the inherited access to magic dating back to a relatives use of the Sword of Shannarra....are always asked/expected to take on a huge burden for the good of all kind.

bahloney

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I'm not sure every fantasy story's a copy of LotR, especially the ones that came before it.

Whenever something's done well though, everything else feels like more of the same, especially in gaming. Hard to make to make an rpg (for instance) without comparisons to star wars: knights of the old republic, neverwinter nights, baldur's gate, etc.

Also, if you want a travesty of overuse of elves, look no further than UO's latest expansion, which (tada!) includes elves, even though elves have nothing to do with UO and aren't even supposed to exist there. Go figure.

heist23

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i don't know about anyone else, but if anyone has read R. A. Salvatore's series, the Terrorweb Dryders seem like an allusion to the Demonweb Pits from the Forgotten Realms series......

but i digress. there can and will be soooooooo many "allusions" in every fantasy game. Guild Wars is no difference.