[MERGED] OMFG A REALLY REALLY big thumbs UP for anet

Shaquira

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Lowlands Strike Force (LSF)

E/Mo

Where in every other online game i have ever played i feared almost every update because of:

- Extreme loading times
- Nerfs all over the place
- Obvious exploitable bugs
- Decreased game stability

I started GW today and the enormous update was streamed to me in less than 3 minutes, and what do i see in the update notes

- Massive number improvement
- Cool new game concepts
- Icreased chance to get cool items
- Many impreovements that show Anet listens to the community
- A few things that are less than they where but i can understand the need for these changes
- Proof that the PVP extreme weekend was a testing ground to give us a cool present (i am mostly PVE btw)

The list seems endless and with every item i read i cannot help myself but think WOW and fall silent.

Anet you are the greatest

Bingley Joe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Philosophers of Denravi

/signed

Great update ANet! Looks like it's going to be a lot of fun.

Apathetic

Apathetic

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu

Ying And Yang [YAY]

W/Mo

Glad to see people like the update. I too love the update and look forward to new improvements by Anet. Yes a thums up

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

I really thought it would suck, but it was great. Go Anet and PlayNC, you did something right. Actually you did a lot of things right. Only wrong thing you did was make a game so fun that I can't sleep lol.

One and Two

One and Two

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

yeah, the release date kinda was meh. and the time.

Kirbie

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

I loved every bit of it....even though I'm still near beginning(I think)
Very challenging, "fast paced"...smarter enemies...
They can rez now too....even the boss...
And they will throw everything at you that the battle is just mind boggling fun.
And about Kilroy Stonekin....I love this guy
He pumps adrenaline into the game constantly; and I just love his shouts.
I wished he would stays with the team for whole SF quest...not just part of it like it is now...

Anyways....best update I've ever seen
I love ArenaNet for always giving their best to improve GuildWars.
Big hugs

Shinsei

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Denmark

The update just seems like another step towards WoW lite.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

Then maybe you should take a step away Shinsei. You've been trolling every thread about this update... Enough already. We know you hate the update. Grow up.

terrordactyl

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Lions Guild

E/Mo

Yep, great game, great update, great developer :-)

Shinsei

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Denmark

I need to grow up because I dislike the update? And how have I been trolling every thread? I recall posting about how they skipped the much needed ER fix etc. , but trolling about it? Like I mentioned before... updates really seem to bring out the fanboys in some people.

Kazahana

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

SoCal

W/E

ive got a bug happening its horrible im in the guild and on the list but i have no cape no tag and i cant see guild chat or go to hall but i can talk in guild chat even if i cant see my words

im glad about the cape tho i dun like capes and its nice to not have one

Shaquira

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Lowlands Strike Force (LSF)

E/Mo

@ kazahana

You are a bit off-topic but i would suggest leaving the guild and re-entering. The 100g fee should not be a problem to try and solve this




The more i am reading about stuff in the update the more i like it,

- no more attribute refund points
- single vendor in ember light camp selling all non-elite skills

The gravy doesn't seem to end ... and NO shinsei i am no fanboy. But i do very much like the fresh wind blowing through GW after seeing other online games nerfed to hell and back

Like i said starting the thread ... with ANET i do not fear the updates ... if i see an update coming in i think "what did they improve this time". And i love that.

Anet has renewed the enjoyment i once had playing online games that was completely destroyed by everquest and i thank them for that.

Shaquira

rugal nuker

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

E/Mo

GW RockS!!!!

Alex Weekes

Alex Weekes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Brighton, UK

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Originally Posted by Kazahana
ive got a bug happening its horrible im in the guild and on the list but i have no cape no tag and i cant see guild chat or go to hall but i can talk in guild chat even if i cant see my words

im glad about the cape tho i dun like capes and its nice to not have one
Try logging out of the game for at least 10 minutes and then checking again. There should be absolutely no need for you to leave your guild or be re-invited.

Ice Unicorn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

/signed

I love having no refund points plus the bosses at the new areas seem to drop "perfect items" - no need to farm for me to get that uber weapon.

Jugalator

Site Contributor

Join Date: Feb 2005

Sweden

The Amazon Basin [AB]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinsei
The update just seems like another step towards WoW lite.
That's OK with me, only if it would become too close to WoW Full, this game would be doomed for me.

I just need a little WoW in this one thankyouverymuch.

Combine the other aspects of GW with a WoW lite and you get a game where you aren't ruled by grind, while being different in many ways too. That sounds great to me. I would never look at WoW as a game like GW to strive for.

Satire Elexus

Satire Elexus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Hate Breeders

E/Mo

/signed

A-Net have done a great job.

- Removed Attribute Recovery points (SO SO WOW Thanks A-Net) I can now fix my screwed up character

One thing I would have liked to have seen tho was the option to turn your cape off. Oh well. You can't have everything I guess. I'm still v. happy with update


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Shaquira

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Lowlands Strike Force (LSF)

E/Mo

Seeing how many things were added that the community has asked for i am convinced that in time we will get things like

- Trading system
- Toggle capes
- and more

In fact i think Anet may even be silently working on these things and they will anounce them when ready.

Very much NOT like other companies promising the world and then rescheduling the release date time and time again.

The only thing i hope right now is that Anet has planned ahead because i see a steady rise in the numbers of players and i hope that the servers can handle it.

Shaquira

Audhumla

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oregon

The Shattered Hand

N/R

AS fantastic as the new areas are, it's the little things that really make me love this update.

Like getting to play Koreans and Europeans in Arenas. That's just neat.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

omg omg omg, Sorrows Furnace is KOOL!!!! i've never seen an environment that was so immersively designed, so much depth, so captivating!

/signed

theVariable

theVariable

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

CA, USA

Knights of the Hokuten [KotH] (hokuten.org)

Mo/Me

/signed

Great update. And I'm hard to please

Akimb0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Rt/N

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Originally Posted by Shaquira
Where in every other online game i have ever played i feared almost every update because of:
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- Extreme loading times
- broadband ftw
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- Nerfs all over the place
- hello, you need glasses
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- Obvious exploitable bugs
- Just wait they will be found ( then nerfed reducing the fun for all even more )
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- Decreased game stability
- you cant decrease whats not there.

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I started GW today and the enormous update was streamed to me in less than 3 minutes, and what do i see in the update notes
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- Massive number improvement
- massive isnt the word I'd use, more along the lines of pathetic, they can release this but not fix the 20/20 soul reaping item in droknar. Soul reaping has no skills...
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- Cool new game concepts
- Like sucking up to pvp players and giving the elite an oppertunity to horde new green items?
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- Icreased chance to get cool items
- Think about how the "rare" gold items were VERY common. Now the markets truly messed.
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- Many impreovements that show Anet listens to the community
Community = fanboys.
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- A few things that are less than they where but i can understand the need for these changes
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- Proof that the PVP extreme weekend was a testing ground to give us a cool present (i am mostly PVE btw)
- pvp is boring and samey in this game.

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The list seems endless and with every item i read i cannot help myself but think WOW and fall silent.
World of warcraft, yes I agree, also Diablo 2 with the uniques etc.

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Anet you are the greatest
- no, no really theyre not.

trelloskilos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Guitarring Adventurers Society

R/N

I haven't even had the chance to play the update yet, but from what I've read in the update list on guildwars.com, I'm very impressed and pleased!!!

No more worrying about refund points. No more fruitless searching for that one elusive skill, no more worrying about where my pet has got to, and that's just hors d'oevres to the 2 new maps!

A pre-emptive "Well done!!" to all the devs, and a big raspberry to all the naysayers who have nothing better to do than sulk and whinge!

Akimb0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Rt/N

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Originally Posted by trelloskilos
No more fruitless searching for that one elusive skill
gives players even more reason to skip the weak boring plot and rush straight to droknars then to there for all their skills. GREAT.

Charcoal Ann

Charcoal Ann

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

In a World of BADGERS!

Eternal Flame Brotherhood

Akimb0 do you notice that basically everyone is loving the update?
why is a soulreaping focus so awful?
i'm not sure how exploitable bugs aid enjoyment.
this game has fantastic stability. my warrior using a blue gladius that i bought for 200g can take on any gold fellblade weilding fissure armored warrior with no trouble.
by elite you mean the players that can get a group? and survive long enough to get them?
just because people like the game doesn't mean that they are brainless fanboys. ever thought it is because they are more of a glass is half full kinda person? (unlike in your case where the glass seems to be 1/100th empty)
so you are basically saying that whilst guild wars is awful every other similar game out there is even more awful? maybe online games just are not for you...

Shaquira

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Lowlands Strike Force (LSF)

E/Mo

Akimb0 is trolling and i'll ignore the obvious flamebate remarks

However i do like to respond to some items

Broadband to solve loading times ... still i remember an everquest update taking 4+ hours to download on an 8Mb broadband connection.
Driving a porche in a traffic jam won't help you get anywhere any sooner

GW is not stable? Outside some disconnection problems i do not have any stability issues with GW. I cannot say this of ANY other online game i played before

Massive improvements, just because they did not fix one item that bothers you, you call the 100+ other improvements pathetic.

You say PVP and the rest of the game is boring and that WOW is better. Since these two games do not easily compare the conclusion would be really simple ... play the game you like most.
Why play a game that obviously frustrates you ... it is supposed to be fun.

The market is now messed up according to you. I think it was already messed up with items selling for hundreds of thousands of gold. I never understood that anyway because near perfect items were free and only marginally worse.

You complain about ppl skipping the plot to do things they want to do ... why and in what way does it hurt you how other ppl play their game. The only thing i can think off is droknars runners in low level arena's, besides that (and anything else that does interfere with other ppl's enjoyment) everybody should be able to enjoy the game the way they like.

Shaquira

Jamski

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

I really really really really like this update.

BUT.

But I'm annoyed that its easy to get skills now. Took me months of toil, and I still don't have every skill. Now I can finish up and get every last skill in, what, a few days? I was looking forward to at least another month of skill hunting and faction farming, and running a new PvE toon through...

And making it easier to get good items too

Well, I still like the update, but my personal in-game goals just became so much easier to achieve, that they're no longer achievements to be proud of. Soon everyone will have all skills unlocked. When everyone's special, no one is special. I just hope ANet doesn't lower the price of Fissure Armour...

Mormegil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinsei
The update just seems like another step towards WoW lite.
Oh yes, increased faction and guild invite have much to do with WoW. Did you even read the update notes before making half-baked assumptions with no reason whatsoever apart from your negativity?

Great update, Anet has been responsive as always. The only think I'm perplexed about is why they didn't fix Ether Renewal. Too bad.

Akimb0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Rt/N

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Originally Posted by Jamski
I really really really really like this update.

BUT.

But I'm annoyed that its easy to get skills now. Took me months of toil, and I still don't have every skill. Now I can finish up and get every last skill in, what, a few days? I was looking forward to at least another month of skill hunting and faction farming, and running a new PvE toon through...

And making it easier to get good items too

Well, I still like the update, but my personal in-game goals just became so much easier to achieve, that they're no longer achievements to be proud of. Soon everyone will have all skills unlocked. When everyone's special, no one is special. I just hope ANet doesn't lower the price of Fissure Armour...

Good items were never rare with the farming, now theyre just worthless, and all skills and best armour in game if you have the gold will take around a day max?

Shaquira

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Lowlands Strike Force (LSF)

E/Mo

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Originally Posted by Jamski
I really really really really like this update.

BUT.

But I'm annoyed that its easy to get skills now. Took me months of toil, and I still don't have every skill. Now I can finish up and get every last skill in, what, a few days? I was looking forward to at least another month of skill hunting and faction farming, and running a new PvE toon through...

And making it easier to get good items too

Well, I still like the update, but my personal in-game goals just became so much easier to achieve, that they're no longer achievements to be proud of. Soon everyone will have all skills unlocked. When everyone's special, no one is special. I just hope ANet doesn't lower the price of Fissure Armour...

When i got this game the box said it was about skill. Not the time spent to acquire skills and weapons will make you a winner, but your skills to use the tools available.

Seems this update is a step in that direction. Looking back on the time spent on the skills i have now .. thinking it was a waste? No ... i enjoyed it. I'm happy i don't have to repeat to much to get a few other characters geared up and ready to fight.

The 8 slot limit to skills used makes that not every single character of the same profession is alike.

At least they don't have to be .. if you want to use a cookie cutter build ... so be it.

Shaquira

Akimb0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Rt/N

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Originally Posted by Shaquira
When i got this game the box said it was about skill. Not the time spent to acquire skills and weapons will make you a winner, but your skills to use the tools available.

Seems this update is a step in that direction. Looking back on the time spent on the skills i have now .. thinking it was a waste? No ... i enjoyed it. I'm happy i don't have to repeat to much to get a few other characters geared up and ready to fight.

The 8 slot limit to skills used makes that not every single character of the same profession is alike.

At least they don't have to be .. if you want to use a cookie cutter build ... so be it.

Shaquira

"Skill not time played determines your success" thats a lie simple as that.

stumpy

stumpy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Canucklehead BC, Canada

Advanced Necro Undead Society

As always you aim to please, or you please and aim ... I want to take this time to thank Anet for the obvious nice graphics, nice new area(s) ... monsters etc, for some reason i thought grenths would have been bigger ... but anyways ... not letting expectations exceed compiments .. I want to strike 1 piss off at you for this 3:40 am post ... you kicked me ... not 30 feet from my reward on the longer sorrows quest .... alll 5 done ... you kicked me ... and now refuse connection ... what becasue all of the europeans floooded your servers, you were not prepared for that? Irk I can move on ... it only toook a couple hours .... but all in all you did an amazing job ... I tried to take a screen of the firefly thing ... but it aggro'd to me and was dead before I could snap a few ctrl+shift+h pics .... damn ... and right when i thought i had a new avatar. TY Anet I wil compliment you till the cows come home .... but you need to fix the guild/ no guild issue with guild members being randomly ghosts.

Charcoal Ann

Charcoal Ann

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

In a World of BADGERS!

Eternal Flame Brotherhood

hang on Akimb0. you are confusing me here.
you say that green weapons will make elite players even eliter and richer, then you say later that green items will be worthless. try to maintain continuity in you argument if you want people to take you seriously.

and calling someone a fan boy just because you can't think of any way to combat their argument is a bit pathetic.

if you hate GW so much (and WoW and Diablo according to you other posts) then just stop playing it. don't expect us to folow in your footsteps though.

as i said before: for you the glass appears to be 1/100th empty (for most it is 99/100ths full)

and skill IS integral to the game. weapons have only marginal advantages even if green. it is the way you use your character and weapons that determines your success. hence the lvl 20 cap. everyone is on an equal footing. skill is the decider

Lost

Lost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Hell's Precipice

Heh, people are already charging 3k to run others to the Deldrimor War Camp. What a rip off.

Charcoal Ann

Charcoal Ann

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

In a World of BADGERS!

Eternal Flame Brotherhood

Indeed this is a brilliant update in all respects. the faction rewards, the item increase, the skill rebalance, the UW buff. the update was all great.

Akimb0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Rt/N

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Originally Posted by Charcoal Ann
hang on Akimb0. you are confusing me here.
you say that green weapons will make elite players even eliter and richer, then you say later that green items will be worthless. try to maintain continuity in you argument if you want people to take you seriously.
No they ARE worthless, yet they WILL be farmed like crazy by all the "elite." And sold to those who cant get to Sorrows for whatever reason that is.

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and calling someone a fan boy just because you can't think of any way to combat their argument is a bit pathetic.
There is no arguement, the update sucks, simple as that.

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if you hate GW so much (and WoW and Diablo according to you other posts) then just stop playing it. don't expect us to folow in your footsteps though.
Who is us? me myself and I? you speak for everyone here? I point out the stupid flaws in this game and you bash me for it.

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as i said before: for you the glass appears to be 1/100th empty (for most it is 99/100ths full)
strange, most people I know, see, read the posts of dont like this update.

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and skill IS integral to the game. weapons have only marginal advantages even if green. it is the way you use your character and weapons that determines your success. hence the lvl 20 cap. everyone is on an equal footing. skill is the decider
A lie, skill IS needed, but whats my skill going to do vs a farmer with all the best items in the game? ( the advantage might be marginal but its still an advantage. ) and I work a lot but the game says "time spent isnt a factor." strange that, a lot of players rush to droknars get the best armour, will now rush to THE skill trainer get every skill in the game. Wheras I dont have the time to farm, to get the gold to be rushed like that. Time spent IS a factor, and the biggest one at that.

Defendpeace Necros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Three Fame [Run]

W/

the update is awsome ! i am so happy about it !

Charcoal Ann

Charcoal Ann

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

In a World of BADGERS!

Eternal Flame Brotherhood

I don't farm. i don't need to farm. i have never needed to farm.

what do you care if the 'elite' farm it to exhaustion? the items are worthless yes? so they get no gain for doing it.

lol you do need an argument to make a point. its that simple.

yes i was speaking for everyone, everyone who liked the update. they constitute 90%of the population of this forum. you pointed out that there are no soul reaping skills. and that there is a collector giving a useless item. other than that you simply said: this is crap, that is crap, everything is crap.

Skill does come with time played. but farming UW does not take skill. there are recipies for it. good luck rushing to the fire islands skill chap before reaching lvl 20. they will need a supportive guild to do it.

and besides. do i care if someone misses out the entire game content? not really no. their loss.

FluidFox

FluidFox

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2005

In a box with a Keyboard. (cst)

Akimbo, this is getting pathetic. You are either the most naturally discontented person I have ever come across, or you are whoring for attention. Either way I feel a bit sorry for you.

They did a lot of good with this patch and made a couple hundred thousand people happier. If for some reason you are not, you're in a rather extreme minority. Yes, they didn't fix everything in one whack, but if you were expecting them to you need to become more intimately introduced to reality. They did a good job. If they were going to make this the last patch for this game ever, I could understand why you might be upset, but just chill out. More good things are on the way. As is, I'm very happy. If you aren't, then do something that makes you happy. Other than trolling on forums and attempting to hijack threads.

HOXMAN

HOXMAN

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

TN, USA

Amber Order [AMBR]

E/Me

Now i haven't played the expansion yet (i work nights) but i did read that the skill trainer on fire island would have all of the non-elite skills ... how can you be rushed to fire island? you'd have to ascend first wouldn't you?