Superior Salvage kit

Satire Elexus

Satire Elexus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Hate Breeders

E/Mo

Why on earth is the superior salvage kit more expensive than the expert salvage kit. Yes I know.. you get one hundred charges. But it costs 2k.

The expert salvage kit costs 400g and comes with 25 charges.
25 charges x 4 = 100 charges
400g x 4 = 1,600g

The idea of buying in bulk is that it's generally less expensive. I can't see why anyone in this game would want to waste 400g getting the superior salvage kit. Change the price please.

BTW - everything else is GRRRRRREEEAAAT. Well done A-Net.

Josteinn

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

enaB

W/Mo

Because it doesn't take up 3 extra inventory slots.

Aracos79

Aracos79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Great Southwest

Shadowstorm Mercenaries

E/

Simply the price you pay for convienience. If you don't want to pay the extra, you can keep buying the 25 charge items. For myself I just bought 1 and plan to swap it back and forth between all my characters.

Satire Elexus

Satire Elexus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Hate Breeders

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josteinn
Because it doesn't take up 3 extra inventory slots.
Well I wouldn't pay 400g to have an extra 3 slots in my inventory of about 50 slots. I guess it's a reason but not a good enough one IMO. nvr mind heh.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

it's a gold sink...they were hoping nobody would notice, or that nobody would care about the extra money. The extra 400 gold puts a damper on material farming in that it defeats the purpose.

ElderAtronach

ElderAtronach

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Satire Elexus
Well I wouldn't pay 400g to have an extra 3 slots in my inventory of about 50 slots. I guess it's a reason but not a good enough one IMO. nvr mind heh.
Some people would. That's why you still have the option to buy just an expert. To me, it's no big deal, it saves me the trouble of having to keep buying kits. I'm not one to pinch gp, so I don't mind at all.

Mitsu Bishi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Austria

Need for Seed [SeeD]

Mo/Me

I won't ever buy those superior kits because I don't need them. There are hardly any areas where you accumulate items in numbers beyond your storage capacity. I can imagine UW-trips of 3-4 hours, yeah maybe you've got to salvage something to make way for new things. But in every other area, the drops are not so plenty as to clog your inventory so much that you'd need the extra-space of those kits. At 1600 gold, I would buy them, but I won't pay a single gold piece more, as I've always been fine with the existing kits.

Hoyt

Hoyt

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

VA,USA...for now.

...the new kits are a godsend. Those of you that don't see the logic behind the new super-sized kits are probably the same people that buy your crafting supplies at three to five times the tagged value.
I have never have never had to purchase any common materials to craft armor & have made a lot of my income from selling my excess salvaged materials. And since it seems that ,at least for the time being, drops in the new zones are mod/rune heavy, the slots cleared up by only having to carry one of each kit is more than worth the additional cost.

Waste not, want not. Ya know.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

you have 50 slots on your character. Let's say you use the last 10 slots for materials(that stack) and the first 3 slots for an ID Kit a Regular Salvage Kit and an Expert Salvage Kit....You have 37 open slots for drops + 26 Open Slots (given you completely use the salvage kit) + 27 Open Slots (given you completely use the expert salvage kit)...so I know have 37 Slots for drops +26 +27..which means I can pick up 90 drops before the superior kit is even needed.....seems unlikely I'd ever need a Superior Salvage...and more likely that it is a gold sink used because ArenaNet knows the vast majority of players aren't smart enough to figure out how useless it is.

DegreeZ

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Is there any purpose to superior salvage kits except for the amount of uses tied to them?

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
you have 50 slots on your character. Let's say you use the last 10 slots for materials(that stack) and the first 3 slots for an ID Kit a Regular Salvage Kit and an Expert Salvage Kit....You have 37 open slots for drops + 26 Open Slots (given you completely use the salvage kit) + 27 Open Slots (given you completely use the expert salvage kit)...so I know have 37 Slots for drops +26 +27..which means I can pick up 90 drops before the superior kit is even needed.....seems unlikely I'd ever need a Superior Salvage...and more likely that it is a gold sink used because ArenaNet knows the vast majority of players aren't smart enough to figure out how useless it is.
i think you are forgetting that in an extended farming run, if/when you ID something and salvage it, you may get a common material which stacks, so you may actually pick up more than the amount of spaces you have, simply because some got thrown together.

i didnt bother to actually look at the numbers, but is it overall cheaper or the same to buy X salavge kits as opposed to 1 superior kit (but with the same number of uses?)

also i suspect we will see someone in tombs named 'superior salvage kit' now

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by DegreeZ
Is there any purpose to superior salvage kits except for the amount of uses tied to them?
no.

only the convenience of having 100 charges instead of 25 per kit.

look at it this way
i get 4 expert salvage kits and as i use them up a slot becomes available

when i hit 25 charges i am exactly even with the person who bought the superior kit in that we both have 1 slot taken up by a salvage kit.

on the other hand i am 400 gold richer

Fye Duron

Fye Duron

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Chico, CA, USA

Dragon Fang

I presonally like the Sup kits. I always seem to run out of room on big trips and find that at times I have to salvage things that I really didn't want to salvage just for the space.

Gerbill

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

The Frozen plains.

The Llanowar Legion [LL]

Me/N

Well.. if you look at the rest of the update.. I have to say.. even in a large party or henchman.. the drops are quite imense in GF and SF. it's been a while since my inventory has been so filled up.

salja Wachi

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Chicago

the Bleeding Edge

N/Mo

2 words

GOLD SINK!!!

they added a lot to keep the economy under control

and it will work

Chillin-N-Killin

Chillin-N-Killin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Colorado

The Adult Guild

R/Mo

alot of gold sinks now

but in that same breath i noticed the drops are better not just green,purple gold but all drops i ran from rankor to beacons before the update collecting and sold for about 800 - 900 gold. did the same run last night got over 1600 gold from the drops.

IMO good job anet the update rocks

One and Two

One and Two

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

i like sup salvage. perhaps youre just stingy

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by One and Two
i like sup salvage. perhaps youre just stingy
possibly i am but if you use up the 25 use expert kits you dont have it taking up the space.

example i get 2 expert kits and use one up 3/4 of the way through the run and then continue with the second expert kit.

both the superior and expert kit take up 1 slot by the time i get back to sell off.

the only difference is i spent 16/salvage with the expert and 20/ salvage with the superior with no space penalty for using the expert kit.

i did have to click twice to purchase them though instead of once

Gerbill

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

The Frozen plains.

The Llanowar Legion [LL]

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chillin-N-Killin
alot of gold sinks now

but in that same breath i noticed the drops are better not just green,purple gold but all drops i ran from rankor to beacons before the update collecting and sold for about 800 - 900 gold. did the same run last night got over 1600 gold from the drops.

IMO good job anet the update rocks
Mhm I noticed that aswel. Usually you'll find about 1-2 purple items maybe a gold one, when you run trough a map.. now that's doubled to say the least.

UltimaXtreme

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

i hope they raise the price for superior kits, their too cheap >:^P

Ollj

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

they do not get more rare materials yout of something?

Orvix Thang

Orvix Thang

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Pennsylvania, USA

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
you have 50 slots on your character...
Whoa, I just went noob, 20 back, 5 belt, 10 each bag, what am I missing?

noblepaladin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The superior ones charge for convienence. You are not going to have any trouble carrying extra expert kits. You are not going to overflow with items because if you do you can salvage during the farming run, and you will eventually use up the expert kit and get that slot back. For those people making money from materials, you should really understand how much 400g is. Most items sell for quite a bit of money and your profit from materials is minimal compared to just selling the item (actually, it is sometimes you earn less from the materials than the item itself, but people salvage for space). If you want to maximize profit, go with expert kits. If you are salvaging more than 25 times per run, most likely you are salvaging almost everything that drops and you should not run out of space anyways. If you are not salvaging 25 times a run, then you don't need more than 1 kit so no wasted space.

spiritofcat

spiritofcat

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sydney, Australia

Order of the Sanguine Dragon [OSD]

E/Mo

Saving 3 inventory spaces is worth 400g to me.
If I farm to the point of filling up my inventory, those 3 extra slots mean an extra 150 - 300g worth of items on average.
Two full inventories with 3 extra slots essentially recoups the extra cost for the kit.