About the ATI Radeon 8500 Video Card?

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it should have at least 128 mb ram
it should be direct x 9 COMPLIANT (it will use it)

there is a relatively small jump in price for a big jump in performance

and need to know if AGP slot is available

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Dont base purchase on most popular ...

Base purchase on your motherboard. Is first place to start. What kind of expansion slots does your motherboard have? AGP? PCI-Express?

After you know that then find price range ... it's wiser to save up over time and get a better card at launch than to cave an buy half ass card now.

Of course the 6600GT is best performer for it's buck $300 CDN new. I'm sure research can find a cheaper price online. Hell a friend of mine got a 6800GT online for just over $100 auction.

But of that list (given you have an AGP slot) I'd have to say 1 or 3... but my brother has same card and it's low end even overclocked.

I won't recommend it ... because if you buy a nvidia 660GT (eVGA, chaintech, or whomever) it will be noticeably better.

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Oh crap... I jsut boguht a Verto GeForce FX 5500 Video Card, 8x AGP, 128MB
DDR
I just spent $100 on this..... I hope everything will turn out OK... I am pretty sure I will have better then if I still had my old one... please tell me everything will be ok....

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That link seems to go to a 6 page list of hardware. Which card did you mean?

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What I am worried about is the one I have now. The Verto GeForce FX 5500 Video Card, 8x AGP, 128MB DDR. Yeah if that won't be ok... then I will be very sad.... I know its better then I have beefore. I think I had a GeForce MX and it was only 64 MB anyway. according the specs, I will have have more graphic card capacity then the RECCOMENDED!

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You'll have to test it but read the faq on the GW site you may not have any problems. If you cant exchange it for another video card then just follow the procedures, and make sure your frame rate isn't set to high. Also be sure to turn off Anti Aliasing. Aside from that hope it all turns out well in the end. You can also OC the card from 400 to 500MHz Memory speed, but OC is never recommended. If your in a store check out

March issue PCWORLD page 77 right side Video OC Made easy

Not just for nVidia but has ATI Radeon and X800 tips too, For any who have an ATI X800 Pro ... it also shows how to jump it to a Radeon XT Platinum. Again this post is strictly my words and cannot be recommended by GWG nor GW. So turn that upside down Hey if you only got 100 bucks you only got 100 bucks to justify

EDIT

One more thing be sure you have DirectX 9.0c and the newest version of the nVidia drivers (Windows 2000/XP version click here to go to nVidia).

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Hehehe, thanks alot. I can't wait to test it out. I amy have to tweak a few settings and such to make it perfect or clsoe to but I am pretty sure it will be ok. Thanks again.

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Hehehe, thanks alot. I can't wait to test it out. I amy have to tweak a few settings and such to make it perfect or clsoe to but I am pretty sure it will be ok. Thanks again.
here is what it says about your card


I am using a NVidia GeForce FX video card and am having trouble seeing some terrain features.


There is a known issue with NVidia GeForce FX vide cards (GPUs) and driver version 61.77 when the user has changed "Image Settings" to "High performance". Some of the problems include missing terrain. The solution is to change your video settings to "High quality". To do this, follow these instructions: On Windows XP:
Open Display Properties control panel.
Click Settings tab
Click Advanced button
Click GeForce "Version" tab
Select Performance and Quality Settings in left window
In the Global Driver Settings window select Image Settings
Move the slider to the right to "High quality"
The video cards/GPUs that are affected by this problem are:


GeForce FX 5200
GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
GeForce FX 5500
GeForce FX 5700

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I have a question. How do I check to see if i have an AGP or PCI? Wow, you think I would know seeing is how I love computers!?

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I have a question. How do I check to see if i have an AGP or PCI? Wow, you think I would know seeing is how I love computers!?
I hope you have a documentation for your motherboard. Or at least you must know a model name (so you can check motherboard specifications in internet). Also, AGP 2x and AGP 4x-8x aren't compatible (they have different power voltage), so actually you should check if you have PCI, AGP 2x compatible or AGP 4x/8x compatible.

And we're still waiting when you'll tell us about your processor and RAM...

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Actually the 2 look quite different. As far as if it is a 2X,4X, or 8X Agp slot you'll have to see the documentation for your motherboard like Ellestar said.

PCI slots are usually beige with one spacer gap.

AGP are usually black/charcoal and hve 2 spacer gaps

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Oh yea, that's my bad. Here it is;

AMD Athlon Processor
1.30 GHz
256 MB of Ram

I don't know how good my computer is, but any info that any of you can give me through this little bit of information to help me get a step closer to getting the Game and being able to play it would help greatly. (If that even made any since.)

I believe I have a PCI. My Video card is an ATI Technologies Inc. 3D Rage II PCI!

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Privet Ellestar! Priatno uvidet' rodnuyu dushu .

Since the topic is about video cards anyway, would anyone tell me about PCI-Express? I've been a little behind with technology of late.


EDIT: Mate, to know your motherboard, the surest way is to (assuming you are on Windows XP) go to Start > Run > type 'dxdiag' without the ''
The motherboard model is listed under "System Model" and "System Manufacturer" is the brand.
Then, without having to open your computer, all you have to do is google the brand and the mode.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Heart
AMD Athlon Processor
1.30 GHz
256 MB of Ram
You should have a AGP slot on a Athalon board, though it may only be 2XAGP, see previous submission and have a loog inside. It should be the Top slot (ie close to the CPU)

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Originally Posted by DEATH AT THE DOOR
Since the topic is about video cards anyway, would anyone tell me about PCI-Express? I've been a little behind with technology of late.
PCI express is going top be the next type of slot. A lot faster than AGP. Still in development stages, only very expencive board have them right now. But, like anything with computers, it should be standard in about 6 Months.

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Originally Posted by Ice Heart
Oh yea, that's my bad. Here it is;

AMD Athlon Processor
1.30 GHz
256 MB of Ram

I don't know how good my computer is, but any info that any of you can give me through this little bit of information to help me get a step closer to getting the Game and being able to play it would help greatly. (If that even made any since.)

I believe I have a PCI. My Video card is an ATI Technologies Inc. 3D Rage II PCI!
if you open the computer case you will see several slots in a row 4-6 of them those are the pci slots and you should see the videocard in one of them

if you have AGP there will be an additional slot which is offset from the set of pci slots

depending on the pc you might have a agp slot abd it was cheaper for the maker of your pc to use the pci video card instead of the agp

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Alright, and how good is my computer? I don't know if you can tell me how good it is through only that much info, but if you can let me know alright! \m/

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Heart
Alright, and how good is my computer? I don't know if you can tell me how good it is through only that much info, but if you can let me know alright! \m/
Please follow the instruction in my last post and tell us your motherboard's brand and model. As for your processor, that's not bad at all.

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Originally Posted by Ice Heart
Alright, and how good is my computer? I don't know if you can tell me how good it is through only that much info, but if you can let me know alright! \m/
you have an old thunderbire core processor which should be ok

the ram is probably sdr instead od ddr which is twice as fast and would be short imho

the only thing to do is try it and see if it works and if it does to your satisfaction

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You should be fine to run GW once the Video card is in. Though I would suggest getting more RAM. You're probably going to want to buy a new computer in the next year.
This all depends on what you want to use it for. You will not be able to play Half Life 2, or Doom 3 on it though.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DEATH AT THE DOOR
Please follow the instruction in my last post and tell us your motherboard's brand and model. As for your processor, that's not bad at all.

Alright, I did what you said, and typed what I was supose to. It brought up a little window with different types of information. It does not show system model, but just system. So, if you want to know something, just post it after mine here, and i'll try and give you the info alright. I do have Windows XP by the way!

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I am using XP pro so there might be a difference: I never used home edition so I don't know.
Here's my DirectX diagnostic tool screenshot:

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That is what mine also looks like exactly? However it does not have System Manufacturer, or System Model Listed?

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Okay. Then press the "Save All Information", save under any name and email the it to me at [email protected]

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Never mind, How freakin Stupid. Ok, here it is;

System Manufacturer: VIA Technologies, Inc.
System Model: VT8363




A Few Cards;

PNY GeForce FX5200 Ultra Card- $136.00
128 MB DDR memory, 256-bit graphics core, 1.3 billion texels per second fill rate, 81 million vertices per second setup
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PNY GeForce FX5200 PCI Card- $94.88
128 MB DDR memory, 256-bit graphics core, 1 billion texels per second fill rate, 63 million vertices per second setup
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PNY GeForce FX5200 AGP Card- $76.88
128 MB DDR memory, 256-bit graphics core, 1 billion texels per second fill rate, 63 million vertices per second setup
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Asylum GeForce FX5900- $315.78
Includes S-Video, DVI port, high-resolution compression technology, 128-bit precision processing and special effects

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Looks like 4XAGP

http://www.one2surf.co.uk/enduser/pr...cification.asp

Does this mean you have a Micro ATX board (ie a small computer) there are only 3 expantion slots all together.

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I believe the VT8363 is but the chipset.
Since it was introduced post July 2000, you should have AGP 4X.
You should also have SD RAM.

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I would be with you guy's but you guy's are seriously way smarter than I am alright. Is that good, bad?

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Not smarter just more time on my hands.
Did you buy a prebuilt ie a Hewlit Packard? That would help finding out what you can do.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by March Hare
Not smarter just more time on my hands.
Did you buy a prebuilt ie a Hewlit Packard? That would help finding out what you can do.
If your talking about my comp, then I would not know. As I said before, my Mom's Dad put this thing together, because he is a freakin genius at computers.

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Ice Heart:
Most today's video cards are AGP X4/8. Having 8 is, no doubt, better, but X4 will do.
When you buy a video card, avoid cards ending with LE, MX, SE as they are budget versions of the card. If you want to buy something inexpensive, it's always better to buy a Ti/XT/Pro/GT card of a previous generation. I tell you: my GeForce FX 5200 is only slightly better than my GeForce 2 GTS.
I'd reccomend looking for some a GeForce 4 Ti or maybe a Radeon 9550 XT.
Just make sure they support AGP X4.
Also, I would reccomend buying video cards from the following companies: BFG, eVGA, ATI, Asus, Gigabyte.

Loviatar

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any gaming magazine or website says to run screaming from any model 5200 card

BEFORE you buy anything this will tell you exactly what you have without opening the pc and it is free


http://www.sisoftware.net/?location=update

this utility will do everything but .............

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I personally trust Everest.
The Home Edition is free.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Heart
Never mind, How freakin Stupid. Ok, here it is;
System Manufacturer: VIA Technologies, Inc.
System Model: VT8363
Your motherboard likely has an AGP4x slot as stated by DATD. The chipset your wrote about is your southbridge VT8363, your Northbridge chip is likely KT133. For information about your guys products it's usually best to go to the source. VIA Technologies ... here is the direct link to your chipset

Hopefully this helps some of the other technicians, still doesn't say your MoBo but knowing your chipset gives you a clear understanding of the actual video adapter it can handle. If you have an AGP slot ... its a AGP 4X and you would have to buy a card that fits the specs.

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Right here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Heart
My computer was built by my moms dad (Who is extremely good with computers)
why not just ask for help? you can get a card that will work for around $50, maybe even less, and if your mom's dad built it he should be able to get you set up in no time. he'll have a very good idea of what your system is if it's not convenient to have him do it, call and have him walk you through it.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaynan
why not just ask for help? you can get a card that will work for around $50, maybe even less, and if your mom's dad built it he should be able to get you set up in no time. he'll have a very good idea of what your system is if it's not convenient to have him do it, call and have him walk you through it.
i am sure he would have done that already if it were possible

many reasons why it would not be possible

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Yeah, but I agree with jayan. He could ASK his dad for help. he would/should know what to do. He Knows what to look for in graphic cards I am sure and he could tell his dad what he needs, and his dad could find something that will workd that isnt too expensive. I still would like to know if my graphic card will be ok with all this information I have jsut read. I now have a Verto GeForce FX 5500 Video Card, 8x AGP, 128MB DDR

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nova
Yeah, but I agree with jayan. He could ASK his dad for help. he would/should know what to do. He Knows what to look for in graphic cards I am sure and he could tell his dad what he needs, and his dad could find something that will workd that isnt too expensive. I still would like to know if my graphic card will be ok with all this information I have jsut read. I now have a Verto GeForce FX 5500 Video Card, 8x AGP, 128MB DDR
Nova- I just purchased a nVidia FX 5200 128mb and I dont have a problem looking at the welcome screen!! I have been toying with WoW waiting for the March BWE and I have had no problems and most settings are on high! Now, I know GW is WAAAYYYY better, but it works on WoW (which requires DirectX 9.0c) so it has to compare to some degree.

I wouldnt worry about it.... theres a fix posted, You dont HAVE to run the game full boar on all high settings, if thats what you wanted to do, you defintely didnt get the right card. I assume you know this...

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Yeah, but I agree with jayan. He could ASK his dad for help.
nova

that is his GRANDfather not his father

they dont live forever you know
unfortunately not parents either

he might not be available

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He's not my dad by the way, he is my mom's dad. I doubt he can help with the video card problem. He knows alot about computers yes, but he knows nothing of the new video games we play in todays society, or what you need for them!

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However he would understand all teh aspects of the video card specs. and stuf... sorryee... jstu trying to help....

Thanks, Nieye. Thanks for the reassurance. I can see that too. Hehe, anyway.... Yeah, it works good so I am pretty sure it will be awesome. If its not PERFECT, I will be just fine, btu that would be REALLY REALLLY AWESOME AND I WOULD BE Really REALLY happy.