Last Assault---Flame Djinn

ristridin

ristridin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Mo

Anyone beaten the Flame Djinn in "the last assault" mission yet?

I tried it 5 times now and we cant kill even one.
Acctually, we cant even bring his health down to half!!
Plz help me

P.S....I HATE DJINN

Elena

Elena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Belgium

i killed one during my enslavement using 3 furnace gaurdians to help me :P

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

same here, in fact my character was dead, laying on the ground, as I watched the three furnace guardians pummel the djinn to death. the quest was "fire in the hole", but if theres another quest later with more djinns... I shutter to think about it... lol

Nisha

Nisha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

E/W

Hmm, I killed the Fire in the Hole one rather easily. I haven't taken on the Last Assault yet. Might be because I Maelstromed it.

gabe99

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Vengeance of the Old Gods

N/W

I had the same problem with the quest... just getting to that part is challenging enough...However, a ranger with winter might help quite a bit. I was thinking of making sure that was in the group next time i tried

Antilles

Antilles

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Silverdale, WA

Confuzion

W/Mo

Run him into the furnace guardians, then attack him, he goes down crazy fast. Or just run him under the smashers and he gets pwned.

octaviancmb

octaviancmb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Me/

Or, hey, I hear there's this profession called a "Mesmer" or something. They might be able to help kill it.

Nah, they totally suck.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Of course Mesmers suck. They can only shut down enemies and prevent them from using skills, they can't do direct damage so they must suck.

Sarrow

Sarrow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, California

Ecks Di

E/N

*sighs*

GreatLich

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hmm, I tried to takeon the Djinn from "fire in the hole" with my ranger ( on full interrupt mode ) with the henches.
That crazy "consuming flame" skill or whatever... I couldn't interrupt it and when i did, she/he/it used flourish to get it back up again... interrupting both never seemed to happen, until ofcourse... Devona went berserk on the thing, seemingly pinning it to the ground with knockdowns, hurrah for Devona! Cynn ofcourse had to butt in with a firestorm completely healing the djinn with it, booh Cynn!

Cunning

Cunning

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Vabbi, Elona

Ex Talionis [Law]

Me/

I don't believe the Flame Djinn uses many spells at all, he also has a hex removal, making a mesmer not too useful.

gou

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

globally warmed england

the discarnate

it's main attack deal 400 damage to one target, or if 2 are nearby 200 dmg to each and so on, so just get every team member to crowd around it. It won't do less damage total but it will spread the damage across all the targets.
This uber attack also heal the djin for the amount it damages a single target, so again crowding around it will help. Like others have said, use the NPCs to soak a bit of damage and reduce it's healing further. Very easy to kill this way.

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

I believe mainly you need to shut down the flourish... you will probably need the like of diversion and related... interruption is just not fast enough for flourish.

ristridin

ristridin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Mo

wow

thanks for all replies....hope i can take on 3...because there are 3 of them

EmperorTippy

EmperorTippy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Ok now how come thsi was so hard for all of you?

I did this on my first try with henchies and I was a fire elemtal. I used Cynn, Devona, Little Thom, Mhenlo, Lina, Aidan, and Eve. The only SF quest that was milidy hard was the priest one becuase I had to kee prunning back and forth. All of the others I did first or second try with no problems.

I have also done it with a balanced guilde team and had no trouble. I've actually been complaining how easy SF has been compared to UW and the like.

My advice to you is to get a balanced team and all concentrate fire on the flame dude. You need some pretty good monking but its not to bad as henchies could do it.

ristridin

ristridin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Mo

how did u do it with hench?
i tried it with hench but when u need to kill the 3 binders at the (almost) same time i always got one back up befor i killed the third....tried it for like 20-30 minutes

EmperorTippy

EmperorTippy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

^^
Speed increasing skills and switched to E/R with some traps and pulled the baddies closer to the dude and lots of luck.

Narcissus

Narcissus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

North Carolina, USA

Evolution

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by EmperorTippy
^^
Speed increasing skills and switched to E/R with some traps and pulled the baddies closer to the dude and lots of luck.
Ok I think there is a bit of confusion here.

Emperor Tippy is talking about the infiltration quest where you fight the ONE flame djinn that was causing problems.

The OP is talking about the Last assault quest, the one where you have to go deep within to where the Golem is and there are THREE Flame Djinn.

Zenny

Zenny

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Moa Birds [MB]

Mo/N

Well just did the 3 Djinn part. Lots of deaths, but even with a heavy death penalty we pulled through.

Like Gou said for the strategy:
Quote:
it's main attack deal 400 damage to one target, or if 2 are nearby 200 dmg to each and so on, so just get every team member to crowd around it. It won't do less damage total but it will spread the damage across all the targets.
This uber attack also heal the djin for the amount it damages a single target, so again crowding around it will help. Like others have said, use the NPCs to soak a bit of damage and reduce it's healing further. Very easy to kill this way.
That is all exactly who it works. And I think it's very possible to pull one at a time. They aggro in a weird way so it's not easy to find it but different angles will warrant different pulling results.

Good Luck~

Sai of Winter

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

Its hard to find a group for Final Assault! I need a group for this mission.

Here's a way to beat this mission.

Party:
3 Healers
3 Tanks
2 Nukers
(For those who are equipped with Heal Party skill, BRING IT! ITS VITAL)

Get your Morale Boost up to 10% before you fight the 3 guys on the platforms near the robot. When you finally make it to where the giant robot is located, kill all the Guardians first. When you've done that, split into 3 groups (each must have 1 healer and one tank, the nukers can chose any group). Each group must select one of the three enemies standing on the platforms to target. Tanks and/or Nukers kill them while the Healers heal the Tanks/Nukers. When its time to fight the Djinn, there will be 3 of them...kill one at a time. Don't use enchantments when fighting the Djinn, everyone must bunch up and targetting the Djinn. Keep spamming Heal Party for this, the Djinn will divide the 400 dmg to everyone near it so bunch up near the Djinn. Keep repeating this for every Djinn you fight.

P.S. If you have high DP for the end from the Djinn...keep going, don't give up and don't leave the mission.

Fian Adair

Fian Adair

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dublin, Ireland

An Cuallacht

R/Me

Like everybody said, Winter is very useful, luring one by itself and everybody surrounding it.

Also knocking them down is a big help. First time I tried this with a group we all ended up with -60% DP, a 7 party group and only 1 healer, yet we still managed to (almost) kill one with continuous knock-downs. Was a breeze second time.

UberRusty

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

amsterdam, where male prostitution is legal

[GGG] Gay Guild Gals

W/R

Quote:
Of course Mesmers suck. They can only shut down enemies and prevent them from using skills, they can't do direct damage so they must suck.
WTF, stop hacking. The hell is a Mesmer? Must be some weapon or something. Is it one of those new green weapons?

One and Two

One and Two

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mesmer Sword of Pwnage
Chaos Damage (req 1 invitation)
Damage +75% (When pwning)
Auto-drain (Enemy energy)
Auto-backfire (When enemy is present)
Auto-empathy (When enemy is present)
Auto-sacrifice (When backfire is equipped)
Enemy enchantments are busted

Yup, in short, pwnage. hacking. or suckers.

edited: skills

QuixotesGhost

QuixotesGhost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Actually Mesmers aren't too efective against this guy. He's hard to shutdown in that he's a warrior that nukes with a skill. Not too many of those going around. Said skill appears to have a .25 activate time so you can't interupt it with Cry of frustration. It's a monster skill so you can't steal it with Arcane Thievery. My Mes/Nec and a Ele/Mes both spammed diversion on it and consuming flames still got through (I'm guessing it has multiple copies on it's skill bar). Basically it looks like the only way to shut this guy down with mesmer skills is Blackout. Or Imagined Burden if you want to kite him.

I just normally go, "Group! Ball Formation!", that works.

GranDeWun

GranDeWun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Easy way to beat Djinn: Lure it back to the Furnace Guardians. They make short work of it, you just have to watch.

Draconian Lord

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

SC

Draconian Order of Aetheism

W/E

Just a quick question does anyone know if the skill "Comsuming Flame" the the flame djinn uses is capturable with a signet. Because that is one bad motha of a skill. Even though the dmg would not be 400 for a lvl character it would still be remarkably useful in combat against several enemies. If anyone is able to capture this let me know.

QuixotesGhost

QuixotesGhost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Being a (monster skill), much like Wurm Seige, it is not capturable.

Sai of Winter

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

There's another way to defeat them...spam the kegs! It will knock them down and they won't attack.

Credit to the person who told me this. I don't know if I can put her name in here.

Alcaza Bedabra

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Jaine's Outpost

Mo/E

I've taken similar damage from Meteors that the hydras just outside of the Ember Light Camp call down.

A competent Fire elementalist player could be just as bad, really. Air magic is just so much more popular in PvP... probably because of the exhaustion and blindness it causes.

john little

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

UK, EU Server

And All That Could Have Been [AATC]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by gou
it's main attack deal 400 damage to one target, or if 2 are nearby 200 dmg to each and so on, so just get every team member to crowd around it. It won't do less damage total but it will spread the damage across all the targets.
This uber attack also heal the djin for the amount it damages a single target, so again crowding around it will help. Like others have said, use the NPCs to soak a bit of damage and reduce it's healing further. Very easy to kill this way.
That is definately the way to do it, you don't really need complicated builds or even djinn specific ones. It becomes pretty easy when the attack is reduced to 50 and only heals it for 50.

The party setup I was in when we beat that mission was: 2 healing monks, Lina, 2 warriors (inc. Devona), 2 elementalists (both fire iirc) and a minion necro.

kleps

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

i was in a PUG tonight doing final assault and we literally got raped by the 3 flame djinns for probably 30 minutes. sitting at 60 dp, there wasnt much that we could do.

however, we did find a way to beat them and if you look at the my screen shots, they do not show any hp loss.

no the photos were not chopped. i still have the original 2mb print screens sitting in my folder if anyone wants to see them.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...893#post476893

Sai of Winter

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

I've finally finished that mission on my third try!!! Man I tell you, it was nuts! In our group we had one person that doesn't speak english and she was aggroing everything. Everything one of our party spoke to her, all she does is stay quiet or infinitely say "lol." (O_o) We found out she was from China... Lucky we had someone in our group that could speak Chinese. It was pretty funny seeing her translate the directions to the Chinese person. I wish I had taken pictures of that (-_-)' Once she knew what to do, we finally beat that friggin mission. Thanks to our little monk girl who translated the directions to her or we would've been screwed.

Paine

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Clan Plus [Plus]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
Of course Mesmers suck. They can only shut down enemies and prevent them from using skills, they can't do direct damage so they must suck.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
I think you're Goerge W. Bush since he is that stupid.

The mesmer is the best profession in the game. We can counter exactly everything. If you played during the betas, ANET & NCSoft recommended not to play as a mesmer as your starting character since they're hard to play with. Also, it's the hardest profession to control.
The easiest profession to control would be the warrior and the elementalist.

If I'm not mistaken, I think that shit of yours is coming from a n00b ranger.

Hentai

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Agreed with Paine.

Rancour

Rancour

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Camp Rancor (Rancour :D)

I'm a free spirit (that's not what the guild is called, I just am)

W/R

Now, I wouldn't say Mesmers are the strongest. Wether a profession is the "strongest" can only be defined by the player. However, it's wrong to say that Mesmers suck. In the right hands, any profession can be deadly and even a Warrior can stink in the hands of a newbie. It all depends on the skills of the player.

But it's true, though, that Mesmer is a tough profession to learn to use properly. Using the right skills at the right moment is essential. But in my opinion, all the profession are pretty easy to learn, but hard to master. The Mesmer is just harder to learn to use, but is equally hard to master as the Warrior profession.

Jamski

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Since the Djinn's damage is divided between all the targets, mob him with masses of minions, pets, melee him with the whole team, even the casters and drag the npcs in too. Oh look, he's suddenly doing about 20-30 damage instead of 400. OMGWTFPWNed.

TomD22

TomD22

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paine
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
I think you're Goerge W. Bush since he is that stupid.

The mesmer is the best profession in the game. We can counter exactly everything. If you played during the betas, ANET & NCSoft recommended not to play as a mesmer as your starting character since they're hard to play with. Also, it's the hardest profession to control.
The easiest profession to control would be the warrior and the elementalist.

If I'm not mistaken, I think that shit of yours is coming from a n00b ranger.
LOL. moron. that post was sarcastic, and is part of a string of them whinging that mesmers aren't appreciated

Theos

Theos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

River Dancing

Eternal Treachery [TimE]

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paine
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
I think you're Goerge W. Bush since he is that stupid.

The mesmer is the best profession in the game. We can counter exactly everything. If you played during the betas, ANET & NCSoft recommended not to play as a mesmer as your starting character since they're hard to play with. Also, it's the hardest profession to control.
The easiest profession to control would be the warrior and the elementalist.

If I'm not mistaken, I think that shit of yours is coming from a n00b ranger.
So this is where the mesmers get their bad rep... why would you say it is the strongest class? It clearly isn't... oh I am not a noob ranger, I am a mesmer .
The only people who think that mesmers are the strongest class are those who were either A.) beaten by one, B.) Just figured out how to use it and think they are "leet" C.) Like bragging about being the most underplayed class in the PvE side.

So where you get it as being the best is beyond me, a mesmer can counter alot of crap, Casters more than Warriors or Rangers, but that doesn't make them better than everyone else. Lets make a list....

We have rangers, which you called noobs, perhaps the best counter to a mesmer. Perhaps you are pissed at being killed by them? So quick list now...

Ranger > Mesmer > Elementalist/Necro/Monk > Warrior > Ranger... etc....

UberRusty

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

amsterdam, where male prostitution is legal

[GGG] Gay Guild Gals

W/R

LOL @ Paine and Hentai: The post was saracastic.

If I'm not mistaken, I think that shit of yours is coming from a n00b brain.

schutz

schutz

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

wales

W/Me

When i was in a group he mauled us at first then we all seperated and a few guys were left he chased them to the furance guardians and the brutes or summits nearby not so sure and he made quick work of them then he vanished and we just went on with mission