I like the Darkstone chests as well, and Elonian keys are great for me. My advice is if you are doing ascension missions bring 3 keys at least. I usually run into 2-3 chests during each of those missions and I got a Superior Vigor rune out of one. In my experience the elonian keys tend to give spellcaster weapons, the last one I got was a Holy Rod max dmg req8 Divine Favor Improves Skill recharge on Healing Prayers 20% Energy +5 while health > 50%. I also picked up an air staff that had Max dmg req 7 air; Max Armor mod; max energy mod; improves casting speed 10%
From Shiverpeaks chests I have picked up 2 gold fellblades (both of which had high requirements 10 and 13 and no built in damage mod) and a Superior Abs. Rune. I havent had that much luck on chests in FOW or UW yet.
Chests & keys: rant or praise
axe
unienaule
I'd say this thread is pretty much done.
To sum up:
1) Odds of giving you a good gold drop are fairly low, but it does happen.
2) On the other hand, a fellblade 15>50.... superior absorptions... set of 15%dmg bows... yum.
To sum up:
1) Odds of giving you a good gold drop are fairly low, but it does happen.
2) On the other hand, a fellblade 15>50.... superior absorptions... set of 15%dmg bows... yum.
kitten
I liked having the random chests before, but I've definitely gotten better items since the key system was implemented, and I KNOW that what drops will be mine. I get key drops fairly frequently, (no, they don't just drop from bosses, someone asked) and if I have more than three Elonian or Shiverpeak Keys, I give them out to guildies that don't have one if we come across a chest. I tend to only buy Shiverpeak, Elonian and Obsidian Keys if they haven't dropped in a while and I don't have one on me.
I've gotten fairly crappy purple items from Obsidian chests in FoW... crappy considering that I paid 1.5K for a key. I have a key for UW that dropped my first time there, but have yet to come across a chest. To me it's a gamble, and one that I'm willing to make when I can spare the gold. I AM saving for Fissure Armor, but not doing fun little things like taking a chance with keys makes the game a grind to me.
I usually end up giving my chest drops to guildies that have newbie characters, or salvage them for parts. I get annoyed when I get 2 Steel Ingots, instead of the Zealous Haft or whatever, but again, it's chance. The Elonian Chest that gave out two Major Beast Mastery Runes in a row on a mission can bite me though. The other guy who got the same thing I did just dropped his there and walked away.
I love finding purple and gold items and IDing them to see what I got. It's like a little surprise that I look forward to. Chest items have the same thrill, even if it's not such a great item.
I've gotten fairly crappy purple items from Obsidian chests in FoW... crappy considering that I paid 1.5K for a key. I have a key for UW that dropped my first time there, but have yet to come across a chest. To me it's a gamble, and one that I'm willing to make when I can spare the gold. I AM saving for Fissure Armor, but not doing fun little things like taking a chance with keys makes the game a grind to me.
I usually end up giving my chest drops to guildies that have newbie characters, or salvage them for parts. I get annoyed when I get 2 Steel Ingots, instead of the Zealous Haft or whatever, but again, it's chance. The Elonian Chest that gave out two Major Beast Mastery Runes in a row on a mission can bite me though. The other guy who got the same thing I did just dropped his there and walked away.
I love finding purple and gold items and IDing them to see what I got. It's like a little surprise that I look forward to. Chest items have the same thrill, even if it's not such a great item.
pork soldier
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Tell me that this is just me:
I have now spent about 10k on keys, specifically Shiverpeak keys. I have been wandering the South Shiverpeaks for some time and used all of those keys. My return has been about 1k, an ROI of -90% seems hardly acceptable. Included in my loot has only been purple items, not a single gold item, runes I have already unlocked that only sell for 25g. I understand they have tried to make more gold sinks, such as the fee for entering a new guild. But, gee if I am going out of my way after killing a mob to hunt down and open a chest I should at least get rewarded for it. Additionally the notes say that keys drop of monsters. I have yet to see a single key drop, what is the deal with that. So my question is am I on crack? Are other people having this same issue? Is this actually an issue or are keys in fact 100% worthless?... |
That said, I've had a lot of good items out of chests (no idea if my ROI is good, I really don't care) and last night a guild mate got a superior absorption rune out of a chest in SF.
Hypermonkeyman
lol used 2 shiverpeak keys last night got a sup vigor and sup wat eva the hell the 100k one is in a row was like hell ya
COunt it If it GoEs
FoW// Uw
15>>50 chaos off chest
Shiverpeaks
Countless ammounts of gold armors with sup runes
Countless ammounts of gold weapons including 2 gold fellblades
iam reallly lucky, but thats before they nerfed the granite chest that spawned every time u went out, about 10 steps outside of it
15>>50 chaos off chest
Shiverpeaks
Countless ammounts of gold armors with sup runes
Countless ammounts of gold weapons including 2 gold fellblades
iam reallly lucky, but thats before they nerfed the granite chest that spawned every time u went out, about 10 steps outside of it
ownage of teh elite
Yeah....
Southern shiverpeak keys...
Near the Port Sledge areas, aren't worth their price.
Most of the items that come out of those chests, are rare purples....ranging anywhere from 100-250 gp *From what I've seen*
In the end...if you decide to sell the *godly* purple item...you'll be ending up poorer than you already are.
Haha.
Twisted humour.
-_-
....Just a word of caution for any treasure hunters...
Stick to SF...UW, and FoW
Southern shiverpeak keys...
Near the Port Sledge areas, aren't worth their price.
Most of the items that come out of those chests, are rare purples....ranging anywhere from 100-250 gp *From what I've seen*
In the end...if you decide to sell the *godly* purple item...you'll be ending up poorer than you already are.
Haha.
Twisted humour.
-_-
....Just a word of caution for any treasure hunters...
Stick to SF...UW, and FoW
EagleEye33
I like em, ever since I got a sup abs rune from one when they appeared in grenths more before they moved them, I couldnt get enought of them 
gobla
I'm addicted to keys and chests 
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I always buy 2-3 miners keys and 1-2 shiverpeak keys before going into SF farming. I keep this supply of keys up at all times. It's just the curiosity for what will it get me this time. The kick if its something cool. The great randomness of gold items. When u fight a boss u can expect what green u get ( if u get one ), when opening a chest u can get about every single item possible. I prefer gold items above greens, having a good gold makes is far more original, not 1000 other people carrying the same uber green as you. Golds can have far more effects. And i EASILY get the costs for my keys back. I find an uber upgrade about every 10-20 keys ( gotten 3 max insightfull staffhead so far, they sell for about 15-25k wich gets u at least 20 other miners keys. ) fair deal if u ask me. and then i havent included the other things u get from the other 19 keys. Sure i get crappy purples sometimes but hey, its only 750g. I usually make at least 1.5k each run. And i just collect golds for my lower lvl other characters. gotten a perfect fiery dragon sword from a shiverpeak chest yesterday, still have to buy a good pommel for it ( may be hard, not the richest around ;p. only 20k total ) but i immediatly changed my warrior to swordsmanship. That's another advantage of golds over greens, they make u change ur characters in order to make use of the weapon and thus u will discover a whole new playing style . So for me keys are the greatest thing around , i dont even farm for greens, i farm for chests!
.I always buy 2-3 miners keys and 1-2 shiverpeak keys before going into SF farming. I keep this supply of keys up at all times. It's just the curiosity for what will it get me this time. The kick if its something cool. The great randomness of gold items. When u fight a boss u can expect what green u get ( if u get one ), when opening a chest u can get about every single item possible. I prefer gold items above greens, having a good gold makes is far more original, not 1000 other people carrying the same uber green as you. Golds can have far more effects. And i EASILY get the costs for my keys back. I find an uber upgrade about every 10-20 keys ( gotten 3 max insightfull staffhead so far, they sell for about 15-25k wich gets u at least 20 other miners keys. ) fair deal if u ask me. and then i havent included the other things u get from the other 19 keys. Sure i get crappy purples sometimes but hey, its only 750g. I usually make at least 1.5k each run. And i just collect golds for my lower lvl other characters. gotten a perfect fiery dragon sword from a shiverpeak chest yesterday, still have to buy a good pommel for it ( may be hard, not the richest around ;p. only 20k total ) but i immediatly changed my warrior to swordsmanship
. That's another advantage of golds over greens, they make u change ur characters in order to make use of the weapon and thus u will discover a whole new playing style . So for me keys are the greatest thing around , i dont even farm for greens, i farm for chests!
Battle Torn
I found 2 +7ar sword pomels (salvaged) farming yesterday plus a few other near max mods. Next time I go to FoW or UW ill buy some keys and apply these to any good sword I find to increase the chance of actualy having a max wep
Master Oria
K i spent possibly over 40 to 50K on keys. All kinds,
from shiverpeaks keys to Obsidian keys since the
update that made the key/chest thing into effect.
results:
- dozens and dozens of useless things
- a gold perfect fellblade from a shiverpeaks chest near citadel
- a gold perfect Stormbow from a phantom chest near the tons of Obsidian Burrowers (i think thats what they're called) in UW
- 2 gold ghost staff, one perfect for water with 57 HP and another that was not so good for domination. Both staff where also found in UW at different occasions
- 1 gold shield with 37 hp and +1 to earth skills at 20% (my warrior now uses earth so it just happen to be perfect) found near amber light camp.
now sure its not many items that are great, but.....
hell, the fellblade alone paid back for all the keys, lol
sure its rare to get things, but eventualy after a while
you will get them, and when you do, they will be worth a lot.
EDIT: i forgot one: a gold cane with +4 energy when HP > 50%
and some other mods on it, also perfect for me to use with my mesmer.
from shiverpeaks keys to Obsidian keys since the
update that made the key/chest thing into effect.
results:
- dozens and dozens of useless things
- a gold perfect fellblade from a shiverpeaks chest near citadel
- a gold perfect Stormbow from a phantom chest near the tons of Obsidian Burrowers (i think thats what they're called) in UW
- 2 gold ghost staff, one perfect for water with 57 HP and another that was not so good for domination. Both staff where also found in UW at different occasions
- 1 gold shield with 37 hp and +1 to earth skills at 20% (my warrior now uses earth so it just happen to be perfect) found near amber light camp.
now sure its not many items that are great, but.....
hell, the fellblade alone paid back for all the keys, lol
sure its rare to get things, but eventualy after a while
you will get them, and when you do, they will be worth a lot.
EDIT: i forgot one: a gold cane with +4 energy when HP > 50%
and some other mods on it, also perfect for me to use with my mesmer.
AncientPC
I love keys because:
1) There's nothing else to spend money on.
2) They're a great gold sink.
1) There's nothing else to spend money on.
2) They're a great gold sink.
G-SAS
I always carry about 3 keys of each kind. But I only open chests if a team member got something gold of it. The same chest always drops purple or gold in one run. If someone gets gold you will, too.
axe
I love keys as well, here is my score
I picked up a Superior absorption rune from a shiverpeaks chest
Superior Vigor from a Crystal desert mission
2 Gold fellblades
1 Gold max dmg Sephis axe from a Darkstone chest
2 perfect staffs Both had perfect energy mods and 20% chance mods that were GOOD
2 perfect holy rods one was a +20% recharge for healing prayers, the other was a 10% recharge for anything.
Ive heard that this is the only way to get certain items, and as far as I know its the only way to get max dmg gold sephis axes, crystaline swords, and other very very rare items.
I always take 3 keys of the area I am going to be in and I usually play with guild members and have the most gold available, so I open the chests first and let them know if its safe to open or not.
I picked up a Superior absorption rune from a shiverpeaks chest
Superior Vigor from a Crystal desert mission
2 Gold fellblades
1 Gold max dmg Sephis axe from a Darkstone chest
2 perfect staffs Both had perfect energy mods and 20% chance mods that were GOOD
2 perfect holy rods one was a +20% recharge for healing prayers, the other was a 10% recharge for anything.
Ive heard that this is the only way to get certain items, and as far as I know its the only way to get max dmg gold sephis axes, crystaline swords, and other very very rare items.
I always take 3 keys of the area I am going to be in and I usually play with guild members and have the most gold available, so I open the chests first and let them know if its safe to open or not.
Young Hero
In my experience-if you have the proper keys in bag ect,you never run into chests.When you're not packing keys--chests are all over the place.Very frustrating.My best chest yeilds have come from Darkstone chests.
A User Name
Well, i like them but hate them at the same time. I mean i never have a key when they pop up, and when i do i only get purple drops that no one would ever buy, and i have no use for them, so they end up getting sold for 100-350 gp to those merchants when the keys themelves cost 700 gp or so lol.
master_ranger_matt
If u use enough keys they will be profitable in the long run. Example: I just recently went though about 6 obsidian keys on a chest, and it gave only purple drops. On the last key, wouldn't you know it, I got a godly chaos axe. Sundering 10/9 of fortitude +29, max damage, req.9, +19%dmage while hexed. It profited.
Eldrig
im pretty sure it's the other way around. while in the short term you may get lucky and make a profit, in the long run, the more keys you buy, the more your losses will be. it's like playing the lottery, except with a really small possible winning.
Master Oria
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im pretty sure it's the other way around. while in the short term you may get lucky and make a profit, in the long run, the more keys you buy, the more your losses will be. it's like playing the lottery, except with a really small possible winning.
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K i spent possibly over 40 to 50K on keys. All kinds,
from shiverpeaks keys to Obsidian keys since the update that made the key/chest thing into effect. results: - dozens and dozens of useless things - a gold perfect fellblade from a shiverpeaks chest near citadel - a gold perfect Stormbow from a phantom chest near the tons of Obsidian Burrowers (i think thats what they're called) in UW - 2 gold ghost staff, one perfect for water with 57 HP and another that was not so good for domination. Both staff where also found in UW at different occasions - 1 gold shield with 37 hp and +1 to earth skills at 20% (my warrior now uses earth so it just happen to be perfect) found near amber light camp. now sure its not many items that are great, but..... hell, the fellblade alone paid back for all the keys, lol sure its rare to get things, but eventualy after a while you will get them, and when you do, they will be worth a lot. EDIT: i forgot one: a gold cane with +4 energy when HP > 50% and some other mods on it, also perfect for me to use with my mesmer. |
worth it
by the way, a gold chaos axe was found since i last posted.
ethraax
I don't like keys. When I get a key that drops for me, I usually sell it to the merchant. This is because I already have godly, in many cases green, items for all my players (except my mule). I'm also lazy and don't like selling to other players...
Doctor Rhino
In my Old Ascalon days I found at least 15 Ascalon Keys... but none have dropped ever since then.
fiery
best gold drop from a shiverpeak chest was either a sup vig for a gold fellblade 13^50 lengthens deep wound armor +7 vs elem attacks req 13.swordsminship..and is for sell ^^ wanna pm in game Fiery Arrow Lives
w00t!
Someone may have already mentioned this, but a chest always drops the same color item. So if someone gets a gold, then all drops from that chest will be gold.
So if you or someone else gets a purple drop, tell everyone, so that others don't waste their keys. This way you'll be more likely to actually get good items from a chest.
So if you or someone else gets a purple drop, tell everyone, so that others don't waste their keys. This way you'll be more likely to actually get good items from a chest.
Darklord Chaos
Cost of a shiverpeaks key = 600g. Average sell price of an item dropped from a chest = 300g (to players). Or, if we're honest, we'll salvage them for less than that.
Here's the rub...how can an absolutely perfect r8 15^50 fellblade (208g) be worth LESS than a key to a trader? CLEARLY there are plenty of holes in the engine. That said, it can't be easy to devise.
In any case, I guess if you want to spend your time chest farming and sift through the dozens of worthless items in the hopes of finding one good one, then it's useful to you. If you play the game for the sake of playing, keys are the biggest gold sink in the game. IMHO
Here's the rub...how can an absolutely perfect r8 15^50 fellblade (208g) be worth LESS than a key to a trader? CLEARLY there are plenty of holes in the engine. That said, it can't be easy to devise.
In any case, I guess if you want to spend your time chest farming and sift through the dozens of worthless items in the hopes of finding one good one, then it's useful to you. If you play the game for the sake of playing, keys are the biggest gold sink in the game. IMHO
onilink
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Cost of a shiverpeaks key = 600g. Average sell price of an item dropped from a chest = 300g (to players). Or, if we're honest, we'll salvage them for less than that.
Here's the rub...how can an absolutely perfect r8 15^50 fellblade (208g) be worth LESS than a key to a trader? CLEARLY there are plenty of holes in the engine. That said, it can't be easy to devise. In any case, I guess if you want to spend your time chest farming and sift through the dozens of worthless items in the hopes of finding one good one, then it's useful to you. If you play the game for the sake of playing, keys are the biggest gold sink in the game. IMHO |
aron searle
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I find this to be untrue. I find that I can sell almost any gold item dropped from a chest for at least 3k unidentified. thats a profit 2.4k on each shiverpeak chest if you make sure the chest is gold before you open it.
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magigan
in drazacn thicket there is 5 chest always
i found on 20 run's doing the recrute quest for faction, that 1 of em allways drop gold item .an in 90% of the runes its 1 of 2 diffrent chest that do it.
dont know it this a bug or not a bug but nice it is
sofare i got on 100key's 2 runes of sup vigor (+50hp) that go for around 35k atm an alot more good stuff sooo its been well worth the time an mony to run around there an farm.
magi
i found on 20 run's doing the recrute quest for faction, that 1 of em allways drop gold item .an in 90% of the runes its 1 of 2 diffrent chest that do it.
dont know it this a bug or not a bug but nice it is
sofare i got on 100key's 2 runes of sup vigor (+50hp) that go for around 35k atm an alot more good stuff sooo its been well worth the time an mony to run around there an farm.
magi
Evilsod
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I find this to be untrue. I find that I can sell almost any gold item dropped from a chest for at least 3k unidentified. thats a profit 2.4k on each shiverpeak chest if you make sure the chest is gold before you open it.
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Who actually buys Unid weapons anymore. Doing chest runs around the Shiverpeaks is bad enough, but sitting around waiting for some tool to buy them? I'd rather just ID them, get the perfect mod (lets face it they all are these days) and sell it later on. I still have a +20% damage vs Dwarves Sword Pommel i found wandering around Ice Floe because i can't be arsed to sell it.
I just wanna know what happened to the drops in FoW. Do Anet automatically decide what would piss players off the most and make it drop alot? Who the f*ck actually wants a focus or a wand from a chest, if i pay 1.5k for a key i want something from it that actually has a chance of been worth something. Not to mention the demented number of Shadow Staffs that drop. The best i've had so far was 2 Shadow Bows in a row, both of them with +30 health mods, thanks to the games utterly shit salvaging methods i got wood from 1 of them.
Ok, when you can find plenty of decent items, thats not much of a problem, but exactly how irritating is it to find a perfect mod for the first time in your GW career that is worth over 50k, to have it salvage to 500golds worth of materials?
sh4ft3d
Well, I can't really be a bitch about it, but mis-salvaging one 30hp fortitude grip isn't going to kill you. I've mis-salvaged 3 20% enchant pommels, a 29 bow grip, +5 insightful, two 20/19 bow grips, and a 20/19 hilt, all in the past week. I gave up salvaging anything any more. I get my guildies to do it for me.
Zephyr Jackson
thanks magi for ressing a 5 month old thread
Mr D J
I spent over 250k on keys and lost nothing.. Made a few 100ks
BigRyno
Im a 55 Monk Farmer and I always seem to get key drops from trolls. As for what I get from the chests..about 60% gold and rest purple. One place where should take keys...the Fire Area..by Ember Area. Those missions have like 4-5 chest throughout and I have been soo Lucky. I got a Sup Vigor, Maj Vigor, Fellblade..gold and max. If your gonna do those missions you must take keys...and I take a grip because you will have like 3 peeps in your group looking to buy. Once people see that its a gold chest they will pay you double or even triple for the cost of the Key.
Think about it...wouldn't you pay double the price of a key just to open a gold chest?
Think about it...wouldn't you pay double the price of a key just to open a gold chest?
Evilsod
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Think about it...wouldn't you pay double the price of a key just to open a gold chest?
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If you could guarantee me the next drop was gonna be a Gold Fellblade/Chaos Axe, then i'd pay double.
I haven't just missalvaged 1. Infact my first 2 perfect mods ever (both +30 Axe mods) salvaged to jackshit. Since then about 40% of the mods i've actually wanted have salvaged, earlier i lost a nice +30 health 19% deathbane staff to a equally valuable 14 wooden planks. Its bullshit is what it is.
Cybergasm
I've had tons of keys drop- mostly kurzick keys. I have gotten 70% gold, not good gold, but gold nonetheless.
titan0987
Im pretty lucky in my opinion, ive gotten alot of key drops, at least 5 that I can think of in the last week or two, and I've gotten two golds just today with chests..
Avarre
Spent some 600k on keys and up by about 100k, all is well... I like the key method of opening.
Parson Brown
I'd say I've lost money overall on keys, but I've also gotten some nice mods and a few of the weapons even made my current rotation.
Unfortunately, the other 99% of the items that weren't good enough for me, also aren't good enough for anyone else.
I guess I just like the anticipation of seeing what will come out of the chest. Every once in a while, I'll get something I can sell for a nice chunk of change just for the skin (Zodiac weapons) even though the stats aren't as good as my Crafters/collectors items.
Unfortunately, the other 99% of the items that weren't good enough for me, also aren't good enough for anyone else.
I guess I just like the anticipation of seeing what will come out of the chest. Every once in a while, I'll get something I can sell for a nice chunk of change just for the skin (Zodiac weapons) even though the stats aren't as good as my Crafters/collectors items.
Captain Fizz
Out of all the chest drops I have obtained (say 80), had 2 nice mods and 1 perfect Bow.
The entire rest of them were sold to merchants, I think I gave 1 to a guildie.
So in terms of monetary value - I have probably lost out on 20k...
But, the perfect bow made up for all the previous useless tat.
My ranger now has a lovely bow to use when in battle.
I only buy Darkstone/Minkers keys now - As those are the only ones to give decent items I've found.
Might try a few more shiverpeaks keys after reading this thread though.
I picked up my current axe as a mob drop out in Snake Dance (+30HP, Dam 14%^50, Sundering 10/8) so there could be decent items in the chests too.
The entire rest of them were sold to merchants, I think I gave 1 to a guildie.
So in terms of monetary value - I have probably lost out on 20k...
But, the perfect bow made up for all the previous useless tat.
My ranger now has a lovely bow to use when in battle.
I only buy Darkstone/Minkers keys now - As those are the only ones to give decent items I've found.
Might try a few more shiverpeaks keys after reading this thread though.
I picked up my current axe as a mob drop out in Snake Dance (+30HP, Dam 14%^50, Sundering 10/8) so there could be decent items in the chests too.