Henchmen are overpowered!

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Xonic
Xonic
Krytan Explorer
#1
Thunderhead Keep mission. The mission that might have given/may be giving some of us nightmare, makes us cry for nerfs/fixes, forces us want to give up playing GW because no matter how hard we try, we seem to fail the mission more than enough times we want to admit.

I passed it as my monk after, I don't know, half a dozen tries with players.

I failed 2 or 3 times as my warror when I try with full group of players. I started making my own group with a henchmen healers (cause healers are time consuming to find) and got laughed at by some team members and many of them left. Finally got to try a couple times, could have passed if not a smart player always grabs the king and love to be the first one charging into packs of mobs.

This evening, I tried it with my warrior again, with full team of henchmen. Not to my surprise, this mission all of the sudden seemed 10x easier.

Attached are the screen shots of the final moments of the mission.

Oh, about the title, it's eye catching isn't it? I actually wanted to write a "call for nerf" to tune down the henchmen because they were too powerful it made human players isolate. But on 2nd thought, we need poorly AI'ed human players for comparison to show how surprior henchmen are!
D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E
D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E
Jungle Guide
#2
Nerf Henchmen They Took My Lv 12 From Camp Rankor To Marhans Within 2 Hrs.
Zenny
Zenny
Lion's Arch Merchant
#3
Wait till you try the final mission unsuccessfully with real people, then beat it in one try with henchmen! So satisfying and such a bad sign for humanity.
Xonic
Xonic
Krytan Explorer
#4
I finished all end the mission on my monk, with human player teams. Enough fails to make me want to pull out my hair. I guess I'll do henchmen runs with my warrior and see.
Manderlock
Manderlock
Wilds Pathfinder
#5
Eh, thats not a real fair compairison. Henchies are constant, meaning you always know what they will do. People however are not, they are the variable.


For instance, it took 500 trys with a PUG group for me to beat thunderhead. But then I hooked up with a good group and knocked out all the other missions with that group.

One try each
Ensign
Ensign
Just Plain Fluffy
#6
Most human players are worse than henchmen. Sad, isn't it?

Peace,
-CxE
Manderlock
Manderlock
Wilds Pathfinder
#7
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Originally Posted by Ensign
Most human players are worse than henchmen. Sad, isn't it?

Peace,
-CxE
Yea its sad, but that dosent mean that henchies are overpowered.


(btw nice avie Ensign)
Aracos79
Aracos79
Krytan Explorer
#8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign
Most human players are worse than henchmen. Sad, isn't it?

Peace,
-CxE

Quoted for truth.
berko
berko
Lion's Arch Merchant
#9
I guess I got lucky then. I really didn't have any problems beating the last few missions with human players at all. Thunderhead was too easy, finished it in first try. All the other missions after that were also easy (All with human players).
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heist23
Journeyman
#10
thunderhead was quite simple, as long as you use the catapults to your advantage. that, and you don't light the beacons....and you keep the mobs occupied before they get to the King.
Manderlock
Manderlock
Wilds Pathfinder
#11
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Originally Posted by heist23
thunderhead was quite simple, as long as you use the catapults to your advantage. that, and you don't light the beacons....and you keep the mobs occupied before they get to the King.

Im sorry, I didnt realize that god played the game. Good to meet you.
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audioaxes
Jungle Guide
#12
whats the point of even playing this game if youre going to play with npc's?
Manderlock
Manderlock
Wilds Pathfinder
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by audioaxes
whats the point of even playing this game if youre going to play with npc's?

Enjoyment..........
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Syno Nym
Academy Page
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by audioaxes
whats the point of even playing this game if youre going to play with npc's?
What's the point of PvE anyway ?
Manderlock
Manderlock
Wilds Pathfinder
#15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Syno Nym
What's the point of PvE anyway ?

Yet agin

Enjoyment............
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Tocc
Ascalonian Squire
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by audioaxes
whats the point of even playing this game if youre going to play with npc's?

Challenge, I've do all mission and bonus "alone" (with hench), it was a challenge for me, but now I've understand that the challenge is do all mission and bonus with HUMAN players.
Lag Hell
Lag Hell
Desert Nomad
#17
henches r soooo godly cos all the actuall players r either incompetant, or are F*ck faces who drop, or start pissing ppl off. the thing with henchmen is that they will always do wat u want them to, tankers dont run when ther about to die and lead mobs bak to the casters, the healers heal way better than player monks, and theres no need to call targets, they always attack the monster ur attacking.
Gwenhywar
Gwenhywar
Lion's Arch Merchant
#18
1) Thunderhead IS easy. It's the random idiots we pick up in our PUGs that screw it up. I did the mission yesterday with a 5-guildie group and NO real monk, not even a monk secondary, and the king never even got close to dying since few mobs even entered the courtyard - our catapulters took care of most before they got to the doors (we did take both healer henchies, of course).

2) Henchies are not overpowered ... it's 70% of GW players who need to ebay a brain (or 95%, in case of wamo players).
Manderlock
Manderlock
Wilds Pathfinder
#19
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Originally Posted by Gwenhywar
1) Thunderhead IS easy. It's the random idiots we pick up in our PUGs that screw it up. I did the mission yesterday with a 5-guildie group and NO real monk, not even a monk secondary, and the king never even got close to dying since few mobs even entered the courtyard - our catapulters took care of most before they got to the doors (we did take both healer henchies, of course).

2) Henchies are not overpowered ... it's 70% of GW players who need to ebay a brain (or 95%, in case of wamo players).

A good group can make any mission seem easy.
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Lecs
Ascalonian Squire
#20
There not overpowered there just smarter and obey u