First i will tell u my build:
- Ether Renewal {E} *
- Aura of Restoration *
- Lightning Orb
- Enervating Charge
- Lightning Strike * i use these with all E/Mo build, earth/air/smite
- Res Signet
- Protective Spirit *
- Reversal of Fortune *
[Defensive Part]
Especially with the air build, I have unlimited energy (i get 60 energy in 10 seconds, then wait 10 seconds and if i need it, i can do it again) also i will be healed by reversal, ether, and aura...
Prot spirit, and reversal are the energy spammers + (and a good +) protection
It is soooo funny seeing a warrior attack u, noticing he cant do me much harm, and after wasting enough time attacking me, deciding to attack someone else (also Elementalists cant do me much harm with prot spirit)
[Offensive Part]
Since i have enough energy, it is just a matter of spamming the air/earth/smite skills...
Follow your targets, with the 25% penetration u deal ALOT dmg to all classes, especially necros/elementalists die really fast.
[Negative Part]
The only problem are some necros with health degen, and strong shutdown mesmers, for the rest, I can hardly be beaten in a 1v1 fight (4v4, but me vs 1, and he vs me). Enchantment removing isnt much of a problem, but they can make me vulnerable indeed, i just have to cast the enchantments again, reversal and prot is no problem, but aura has long recharge.
[Conclusion]
that is up to you.....i think i made my point clear
Any comments?
The Pwnage of E/Mo
Dualinity
Tulkas the Breaker
I'll own you in 10s with my ranger.
Ele on ER are very weak, you just need to distract and disable that elite.
Ele on ER are very weak, you just need to distract and disable that elite.
Arrow-bow
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Originally Posted by Tulkas the Breaker
I'll own you in 10s with my ranger.
Ele on ER are very weak, you just need to distract and disable that elite.
yeah thtahs it then ele is cryning
Ele on ER are very weak, you just need to distract and disable that elite.
yeah thtahs it then ele is cryning
Benji
I prefer to use mesmer as my secondary and arcane echo my lightining orb and then spam it.. with air and ele attunement I lose no mana, and when IO run out of attunements I chose a warrior or a ranger on which I shoot blinding flash and spirit of failure to get a lot of energy back and then recast my attunements.
The above described method can ofcouirse be used if a warrior starts chasing you around as well...
The above described method can ofcouirse be used if a warrior starts chasing you around as well...
Ka RaTae
Diversion....would screw u up......BAD.
Yamat
Rangers for sure own you... it sucks!
Try swapping out RoF for hex removal... Backfire and Diversion would suck too!!
Try swapping out RoF for hex removal... Backfire and Diversion would suck too!!
Ka RaTae
He can't...he needs Rof as one of his quick spamer spells to generate energy and health. The main problem with thi sbuild is that when they made the changes with the last patch they took away the 1 second spam of certain spells....so ER no longer rules like it once did. Not that it's bad now, but it really needs a quick spam to shine, and there is no single quick spam spell anymore.
Ahh how I miss the days of spamming Divine Boon to generate energy so that I could keep launching Lightning Orbs. After all...the whole point of the elementalist is to constantly be casting a spell....if you can't cast....it's not a whole lot of fun.
Ahh how I miss the days of spamming Divine Boon to generate energy so that I could keep launching Lightning Orbs. After all...the whole point of the elementalist is to constantly be casting a spell....if you can't cast....it's not a whole lot of fun.
dorkmedlan
signet of humility - lol
neoflame
Mentioning Rangers as a counter is pointless. I'd like to see someone build an offensive ele that wouldn't get slaughtered by a remotely good ranger. Glyph of Concentration on everything FTW? :P
(not defending the build BTW)
(not defending the build BTW)
Kassad
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Originally Posted by neoflame
Mentioning Rangers as a counter is pointless. I'd like to see someone build an offensive ele that wouldn't get slaughtered by a remotely good ranger. Glyph of Concentration on everything FTW? :P
(not defending the build BTW) Concussion shot.. wont distract it since the glyph, but hes screwed after.
(not defending the build BTW) Concussion shot.. wont distract it since the glyph, but hes screwed after.
Dualinity
nah i seriously dont agree with u, first of all, u cant beat all types when they focus on u..mesmers are hardest. But diversion does only 1 SKILL, to diverse ether renewal is about 5% chance, because i cant use it often. Also, when u disable my elite... i am not completely useless...i still got low energy skills to stay casting
When backfire is cast on me, i simply just dont cast LOL, except when i am not under heavy fire, then i can just cast w/o problems (aura, ether, reversal, prot spirit are good defense)
1 interuption, or 2 interuptions, doesnt concern me, because all the skills rule
The only things that can really harm me are: Enchantment removal (it is annoying, and nothing more) and health degeneration sometimes. Shutting down can kill me, but only when focused on me afcourse.
**The recharge time is not very long of all skills. **
When backfire is cast on me, i simply just dont cast LOL, except when i am not under heavy fire, then i can just cast w/o problems (aura, ether, reversal, prot spirit are good defense)
1 interuption, or 2 interuptions, doesnt concern me, because all the skills rule
The only things that can really harm me are: Enchantment removal (it is annoying, and nothing more) and health degeneration sometimes. Shutting down can kill me, but only when focused on me afcourse.
**The recharge time is not very long of all skills. **
Gerbill
Basic mesmers have enchantment removals and interrupts and shutdowns... they would own you any time.
Dualinity
they SHOULD, but if they focus on someone else, they are mine :P
Gerbill
power block on your reversal and enchantment removal on ER and you're quite dead...
or a necro with life transfer and enchantment removals would work nice aswel..
or a necro with life transfer and enchantment removals would work nice aswel..
lishi
actually you cant make a caster witch isnt owned by mesmer
ElderAtronach
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Originally Posted by lishi
actually you cant make a caster witch isnt owned by mesmer
Spell break for the win :P
coldslammer
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Originally Posted by ElderAtronach
Spell break for the win :P
chilli sauce for the loss
fact is....... builds beat other builds
if theres a build that beats them all, it'll be nerfed for fairness
fact is....... builds beat other builds
if theres a build that beats them all, it'll be nerfed for fairness
lishi
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Originally Posted by ElderAtronach
Spell break for the win :P
Only monk can use spell breaker (Divine favor) and spell breaker work only with spell , mesmer have some nasty signet.
like signet of humility witch disable spell breaker :s
like signet of humility witch disable spell breaker :s
Photeus
Essentially this build has all the glaring flaws it should have.
1) He's casting spells. Spells can be interrupted, use interrupts.
2) He's using enchantments. Enchantments can be removed, remove them.
3) He's using energy. Steal/drain his energy and he can't cast.
So far his weaknesses are typical counterspell weaknesses. But what are his advantages?
1) He can heal himself effecitively and easily when attacked, if not attacked he doesn't need to heal.
2) He has greater conservation of energy, being able to restore his full pool, thus keeping him casting longer.
3) His skills synergize well together, creating a solid and generally self-sufficient build.
4) (everyone's strength) Teammembers to take care of 'counters' to his build.
---(This means, a Warrior to distract that Ranger, a Monk to remove Backfire, a Mesmer to keep that enemy Mesmer busy, a Ranger to take down the Opposing Elementalist, a Necro to debuff, offer extra energy, extra targets, or basically annoy the other team...and himself to deal well with most Warriors and to help kill Monks more quickly.
This is a pretty decent build that generally is a good mix of defensive and offensive ability, ensuring that you can help your team by adding to the pain, or keeping yourself alive to let the monk concentrate on another teammate. Yes, this build works best when the elite is used, but it's obviously not necessary for the overall functioning of the build. And if you can name a build that doesn't work ideally with an elite, I'd be tickled to death to see it.
1) He's casting spells. Spells can be interrupted, use interrupts.
2) He's using enchantments. Enchantments can be removed, remove them.
3) He's using energy. Steal/drain his energy and he can't cast.
So far his weaknesses are typical counterspell weaknesses. But what are his advantages?
1) He can heal himself effecitively and easily when attacked, if not attacked he doesn't need to heal.
2) He has greater conservation of energy, being able to restore his full pool, thus keeping him casting longer.
3) His skills synergize well together, creating a solid and generally self-sufficient build.
4) (everyone's strength) Teammembers to take care of 'counters' to his build.
---(This means, a Warrior to distract that Ranger, a Monk to remove Backfire, a Mesmer to keep that enemy Mesmer busy, a Ranger to take down the Opposing Elementalist, a Necro to debuff, offer extra energy, extra targets, or basically annoy the other team...and himself to deal well with most Warriors and to help kill Monks more quickly.
This is a pretty decent build that generally is a good mix of defensive and offensive ability, ensuring that you can help your team by adding to the pain, or keeping yourself alive to let the monk concentrate on another teammate. Yes, this build works best when the elite is used, but it's obviously not necessary for the overall functioning of the build. And if you can name a build that doesn't work ideally with an elite, I'd be tickled to death to see it.
Charcoal Ann
all the posts saying ranger will own you. of course a ranger will hand any eles arse to them on a platter. Rangers are meant to interrupt casters actions.
you say it as if this makes it crap.
he said that this is good against other eles and warriors. the mesmers and rangers are likely focusing on monks and you teams shutdown character. this build should be fine. unless you come up against a good mesmer who will shatter everything you use.
but once again mesmers are just doing what they are supposed to do in a team. eles are supposed to deal dmg and this build does that while at the same time capable of holding its own against the warriors and such.
you say it as if this makes it crap.
he said that this is good against other eles and warriors. the mesmers and rangers are likely focusing on monks and you teams shutdown character. this build should be fine. unless you come up against a good mesmer who will shatter everything you use.
but once again mesmers are just doing what they are supposed to do in a team. eles are supposed to deal dmg and this build does that while at the same time capable of holding its own against the warriors and such.
Ka RaTae
Ether Renewal isn't what you want to Divert....it's your quick spammers that need to get diverted...if they both get diverted....then no more quick health or energy. And a mesmer can hammer you with diversion often enough to catch your spammers. So if you are in this state, then those warriors you were laughing at will now tear you up. Don't get me wrong...I love the 4 enchant ER build...I do an E/Mo smiter all the time, but the build isn't invinceable by any means. It is a fantastic build, but it can be beat easily, which is the whole point of GW. It's modled after the Magic the Gathering system I think. If you have evr played that then you know how a deck can go from unstoppable to lame pretty quick.
Vindexus
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Originally Posted by Gerbill
power block on your reversal and enchantment removal on ER and you're quite dead...
or a necro with life transfer and enchantment removals would work nice aswel.. I just had to quote that.
or a necro with life transfer and enchantment removals would work nice aswel.. I just had to quote that.
Dualinity
Photeus, thx, that makes alot of sense. Alright alright u all convinced me that some rangers, and mesmers should own me. But on the other hand i win vs elementalists and vs warriors, and u see them alot more often. one more thing, u talk about diversing one of my skills, but the mesmer first has to find out what skills are my weakspot if he wants to diverse em. Instead of talking about how to beat this build, which should be quite easy when u know exactly which skills i use, i wanted to point out the pwnage it can have as smiter/spiker/geomancer...i hope u can see this is a pwnage build....if my team uses a build as good as this one, but as other proffesion, i think we should be great