New W/Mo Drok Running Build

zehly

zehly

Sunshine

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Wired

Daughters of Ananke

Mo/E

So I'm getting run to Droknar's Forge, and I notice the runner is doing a very good job. I took note at what he was doing, and noticed no skills, so assumed it was stances. I listened to some of the sounds, and, lo and behold, I got this. It's probably not the exact same, but it works for me, too, running most places.

-> Sprint
-> Charge! {E}
-> Balanced Stance
-> Defensive Stance
-> Disciplined Stance
-> Wary Stance
-> Bonetti's Defense
-> Smite Hex

To gain adrenaline for Bonetti's, I figured Wary Stance was probably it. But for sure: Stances play the key here.

The persons IGN is available upon request.

Post any tweaks/thoughts/modifications. It might not be all 100% correct.

I want to say beforehand that the person who provided the run gave cause for me to post this, even though he called it a "secret build." I'm all for proprietary, but under certain circumstances, I believe in Freedom of Information. I do NOT want a flame war to ensue.

~Zehly

Firan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Darkest Nights

W/R

Interesting... I don't see any particular weakness besides no self heal.

coldslammer

coldslammer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

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W/Mo

heres my W/Me approach

Sprint
Charge(E)
Balanced Stance
Healing Signet
Illusion of Weakness(202hp backup)
Hex Breaker(good for hertics, imps)
Illusion of Haste(good for getting out of cripple for a while)

the 7th or 8th skill, could be whatever, i will survive, or inspired hex

master skorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

cws

W/Mo

hey great ******* job u stupid ***** im glad u posted my build after i told u plz do not then started carying on about it and then i get u to rankor and u tell me btw im still posting ur build i say **** u and i kick u refund ur money (u got a free ride to rankor) so dont tell my build w/o my permision plz do not tell my build again if i do not give u permition to use it



btw she said if i posted this id be breaking some kinda rule honestly idc i spent a week b4 the patch to come up with this build and most of what she has in there is wrong anyways so w/e gl runing that build

heres the real build
charge
sprint
balanced stance
defensive stance
deflect arrows
endure pain
purge conditions
smite hex

master skorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

cws

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by zehly
I do NOT want a flame war to ensue.[/I]
well ur gonna get one no matter what u say FREEDOM OF INFORMATION MY ***
HOW WOULD U LIKE IT IF I FOLOED U AROUND AND TOOK PICTURES OF U IN UR PERSONAL LIFE I WOULD FEEL DEVISTATED THATS HOW I FEEL RIGHT NOW IDC HOW MUCH BANED I GET IDC ILL MAKE A NEW ACCOUNT THEY BAN MY IP ILL MAKE A NEW ACCOUNT AND HIDE MY PROXY U MESS WITH ME U GET BAD ****

Farin

Farin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Delta Formation [DF]

W/

Something tells me this guy is NOT the runner... But if it is him.. Why do you get so mad? ot like it's that hard to figure out. I use almost an exact build myself.

Edit: Wonder if that build can get past Heretics, I have a hard time with them, since Crippling anguish makes me way too slow and if i try to remove it it's always a late rust or phantasm that gets removed. hmm.. Might try this anyways.

coldslammer

coldslammer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

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W/Mo

take a chill pill dude
its only a game, whats wrong with sharing ideas about the game?

zehly

zehly

Sunshine

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Wired

Daughters of Ananke

Mo/E

Yeah. Since he decided to post, I'll tell you what happened. He was running my level 7 Ranger to Droks from Beacons (not for Arena, mind you, but for PvE). At any rate, I notice he is taking little damage and not healing. So I watch what he's doing. After a few minutes I gather the main idea of the build and ask him if I can post it, at which point he just goes berserk. Cursing, yelling, telling me he is going to leave. So I told him that if he leaves, I'll report him for scamming. Then he tells me how he is a God on GWG, and Nef hooks him up. We get to Rankor, and he gives me my money back, but not after filling me up with a bunch of malicious comments, etc. So I decided to post the build myself. Since it was all stances, I inferred the build.

I don't need to defend myself though, at least I don't think so.

master skorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

cws

W/Mo

yea man no worrys im spilling all my builds out just read them and for the guy that needs to get past heretics
use smite hex right after he uses criplingt anguish its got a slow recast and he usaly uses conjure phantasm first so u should be good to go unless u got like 2 or more heretics on u then theyll just spam it back and forth and smite hex dosent have the recharge time we all wish it did

Farin

Farin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Delta Formation [DF]

W/

I can get it done most of the times, however sometimes theres the ocassional Frozen Burst thats screws me up. Would you mind pming your IGN i'd like to see that build being used, or just ask a few questions if you dont mind of course.

coldslammer

coldslammer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

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W/Mo

Quote:
Edit: Wonder if that build can get past Heretics, I have a hard time with them, since Crippling anguish makes me way too slow and if i try to remove it it's always a late rust or phantasm that gets removed. hmm.. Might try this anyways. the key to get past the hertics is keep an eye out on hex breaker, coz when you encounter a hertic he wont hesitate to slap crippling anguish on ya, so make sure u put hex breaker on, use charge to sprint by, your hex breaker will be gone, and apply it again.

master skorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

cws

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by coldslammer
the key to get past the hertics is keep an eye out on hex breaker, coz when you encounter a hertic he wont hesitate to slap crippling anguish on ya, so make sure u put hex breaker on, use charge to sprint by, your hex breaker will be gone, and apply it again. i think hes using w/mo build

Saba The Hobo

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Homeless.

Mo/N

What a change of heart :#.

Either way, I like to keep a heal there 'just in case'. Guess it's up to the user how comfortable they feel with the stances.

Inviolable D

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Rich and Famous

E/N

Lol, so funny to read all those comments.

One question: Just cause you were using the build, your claiming copyrights over a 8 skill set combo? @ Masker Skorn BTW. Just funny, what if i *just* thought of it, and posted it, and you said *sware* *sware* etc etc, i would really just laugh that you cannot even have any informed conversation, no doubt you are a GREAT GW PLAYER, and ofcourse good idea with stances, but ... you get the picture

PS: no i dont play warr anyway so, and also running seems lame, but thats not the point of this post.

paultd

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Toronto

W/R

I chanced upon an opportunity to race the great master skorm. first he wanted to bet 200k plus 20 ecto or something like that, then decided to race for fun.

It was a tight lornar's pass, my storm chaser edged it out at the end. In dreadnought his legendary crippling anguish counter didnt seem to work too well, we both ended up dead to a nasty spawn of heretic. On the (nicer) respawn I blew by to a 2-0 lead.

Game over, so he refers me to this thread. You didn't want my suggestions skorm but i'll go ahead anyway and recommend remove hex over deflect arrows (like you really need it?, most tundra giant dmg comes from their stomp anyway). It's quite nice for the rare case you remove the wrong hex or whatever, you'll always come out on top.

master skorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

cws

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by paultd
I chanced upon an opportunity to race the great master skorm. first he wanted to bet 200k plus 20 ecto or something like that, then decided to race for fun.

It was a tight lornar's pass, my storm chaser edged it out at the end. In dreadnought his legendary crippling anguish counter didnt seem to work too well, we both ended up dead to a nasty spawn of heretic. On the (nicer) respawn I blew by to a 2-0 lead.

Game over, so he refers me to this thread. You didn't want my suggestions skorm but i'll go ahead anyway and recommend remove hex over deflect arrows (like you really need it?, most tundra giant dmg comes from their stomp anyway). It's quite nice for the rare case you remove the wrong hex or whatever, you'll always come out on top. um remove hex has like a 6 second cast time smite hex has a 1 its recharge is a 6 but my item works well for that and i cant take a 6 second stop to make a mistake that might cost my life if i use remove hex i might remove conjure phantasm and then if i do that they will slap it back on me and ill be screwed and have to waste another 6 seconds removing it trying to get to the slow spell which will screw me again cuz theyll just recast it

the idea is if they slap conjure phantasm 2nd ur screwed but if they put crippling anguish on you first u can quicky remove it and they cant put it back on 20 second recharge so in other words if u play it wrong with remove hex you die if you use smite hex like me u can get past 3-4 arcanists cuz most likely you'll be out of range of the others and when the others catch up to cast crippling anguish again your gone if u waste the time for remove hex your screwed

when i got caught up in the heretics in the race i just had bad luck =P my bad maybe next time ill win =) good job though i've never seen a w/r run it that well

cookiehoarder

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Melbourne, Florida.

[HTR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by master skorm
well ur gonna get one no matter what u say FREEDOM OF INFORMATION MY ***
HOW WOULD U LIKE IT IF I FOLOED U AROUND AND TOOK PICTURES OF U IN UR PERSONAL LIFE I WOULD FEEL DEVISTATED THATS HOW I FEEL RIGHT NOW IDC HOW MUCH BANED I GET IDC ILL MAKE A NEW ACCOUNT THEY BAN MY IP ILL MAKE A NEW ACCOUNT AND HIDE MY PROXY U MESS WITH ME U GET BAD ****
Roffffffffffle.

Is that all one sentence?

Ooo I love the "U MESS WITH ME U GET BAD STAR STAR STAR STAR"

Chill out dude, it's just a game. Nothing remains a secret, ever.

cccc

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by zehly
I don't need to defend myself though, at least I don't think so. I just sign up and I never thought my first post will be flaming but you do NEED to defend yourself.

First of all, he never said you could post his build. You did ask him and he never said yes.

Secondly, he did refund your gold back to you like you said which mean the deal of the run is cancelled and that's more like you don't have a right to interact or post anything during the run.

Thirdly, you posted "the person's IGN is available upon request"?!?!?! Did he allow you to do that? This is just plain wrong. How about I post your naked baby pictures on some homo sex web site and all I say is "naked baby pics available upon request"?

Last but not least, you are the kind of people that like to copy things from others, use it on yourself, and post it on the forum so you can take some kind of credits. I am not saying you really want to take the credits but posting like this already show your intention.

***I can see where this all started. OP asked if he can post the build, but the builder started flaming on chat instead of clearly saying no. OP got mad and posted it anyways.***

I don't know if master skorm is the runner. If he was, I can see why he's mad but still, chill out dude, don't get angry at people like that. Next time, learn to say NO instead of firing your bullets.

entropy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by master skorm
um remove hex has like a 6 second cast time smite hex has a 1 its recharge is a 6 but my item works well for that and i cant take a 6 second stop to make a mistake that might cost my life if i use remove hex i might remove conjure phantasm and then if i do that they will slap it back on me and ill be screwed and have to waste another 6 seconds removing it trying to get to the slow spell which will screw me again cuz theyll just recast it

the idea is if they slap conjure phantasm 2nd ur screwed but if they put crippling anguish on you first u can quicky remove it and they cant put it back on 20 second recharge so in other words if u play it wrong with remove hex you die if you use smite hex like me u can get past 3-4 arcanists cuz most likely you'll be out of range of the others and when the others catch up to cast crippling anguish again your gone if u waste the time for remove hex your screwed

when i got caught up in the heretics in the race i just had bad luck =P my bad maybe next time ill win =) good job though i've never seen a w/r run it that well umm I don't believe any spell is 6 second cast. Not even meteor shower... Its a 2 second cast btw

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by entropy
umm I don't believe any spell is 6 second cast. Not even meteor shower... Its a 2 second cast btw i believe he was just exaggerating to get a point across. when you have 20 stone summit chasing you and a pack of tundra giants up ahead, standing still for 2 sec to cast a spell means death.

paultd

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Toronto

W/R

2 seconds (works well unless knockdown patrols are about) rather than waiting for smite hex to recharge which would take at least 5 or more seconds? I wouldn't bother with it either way, it's just that compared with deflect arrows, I know which one I'd rather have. Nothing beats a hex breaker, though that's where the benefits of a mesmer secondary stop.

Deathlord

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

PVP Ranger: Does Stuff Fast

XXX

W/Mo

Am i the only one that REALLY thinks skorn is just being sarcastic and he wasn't the real runner? He is apparently a runner, but nobody would have such a quick change of heart and type in that format if he wasn't joking... or I'm just a idiot, whatever works.

the drizzle

the drizzle

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

E/N

i agree with deathlord.

Nightsorrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Servants of Fortuna

N/

I can't believe someone got so worked up over a build being guessed at O_o

After all, if you give a newbie the "best build in the game" - they won't be able to use it properly.

@ the OP though - you could have avoided a fair amount of the flame by simply posting the build without saying "I saw a guy using this and guessed at it, he said I couldn't post it but I did anyway".

Red Locust

Red Locust

Site Contributor

Join Date: May 2005

Builds get posted all the time :|
If you don't want people posting your build, then don't play the game, at least that way noone would be able to see your build. Many of the responses in this thread are quite ridiculous.

cccc

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Locust
Builds get posted all the time :|
If you don't want people posting your build, then don't play the game, at least that way noone would be able to see your build. Many of the responses in this thread are quite ridiculous. Builds indeed get posted all the time but builders will be getting the credit. What OP did is not only childish but also unfair to the creator.

What I hate the most is him posting "the person's IGN is available upon request", it is obvious OP is mad at the runner by his action.

Calibretto_9

Calibretto_9

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Zanza Barbarians

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Yeah, I think there's just crap through this whole thread. The OP should have had the common sense and courtesy to not post something someone else thought of, especially when specifically told not to. You really want to post it? Better to ask forgiveness than permission. If you'd never asked, you'd have never known whether he cared or not. But since you DID ask, bite your tongue and give him the fair chance to present it himself or wait a day or two since someone else posts it. Not like this guy is the first.

To the runner, if this is indeed the runner, I'm sure you have reason to be upset but don't act like that. It's not befitting of a community forum full of mature players to have you going off the deep end with your little temper tantrum (Sp?). Also, try to fit in just a little grammar into your next post.

If every sentence we all posted was one long drawn out run on sentence with absolutely no punctuation than this entire forum would be one big eye sore and no one would want to be a part of it and not to mention it makes you look silly because you don't have even a basic grasp of the english language so perhaps next time you could put a comma or even throw in a period to suprise us so that we can enjoy or critique the threads on the board and remember CAPS SUCK

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

What about raise shields?

Happy Salamander

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/Mo

I dont see why the guy cares, crappy builds.