A group of naughty individuals

Electric_Jester

Electric_Jester

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

EP

E/Me

Howdy all,

I really hate when stuff like this happens, so since these people like to act this way I shall try my best to inform people of thier actions, so they have no one else to play with and burn, but themselves.

The following people:

**** Have been edited out by me, Magister, in wishes with the boards rules, if you wish to have these peoples names, feel free to contact me personally and I'll give them to you. Also as suggested a report with Anet was filed ****

All belong to the same guild. They were groupped with a good friend and guildmate of mine today, a very nice monk who is probably one of the best monks in the game by anyones standards, was helping them farm in sorrows.

Well, she hit abit of misfortune and happened to die (I was actually shocked to hear she died!), anyways, on the ground, was not one, but TWO green items in her name.

Her party thought it would be a good idea if they left her there to rot as they waited for the items to become available and thus pinch the items on her, then they rez'd her, tried to lie about it (screenshots were taken!), and wanted her to continue on like nothing had happened!.

Nevertheless, people like this are a scourge in online gamming as far as I am concerned. We play online to play with people that share a similiar intrest, in what should be, a fun past-time. Things like this only serve to ruin that experience.

If anyone should know these people, and the guild they are in, I would apperciate a PM with the guild leaders name so I might have a chat with them concerning thier members conduct.

Magister.

This is also posted @:

http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/show...701#post322701

(P.s. sorry if this is the wrong section, wasnt sure exactly where to post something of this nature!, but I felt, people should be warned about lamers like these).

Mystical

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Mississauga, Ontario

Inyurface Gaming [IYF]

I know this is in good intentions, but GWG is agianst naming names. Thanks for the heads up though!

Kassad

Kassad

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Electric_Jester
Well, she hit abit of misfortune and happened to die (I was actually shocked to hear she died!), anyways, on the ground, was not one, but TWO green items in her name.

Her party thought it would be a good idea if they left her there to rot as they waited for the items to become available and thus pinch the items on her, then they rez'd her, tried to lie about it (screenshots were taken!), and wanted her to continue on like nothing had happened!.
Sounds like a bunch of assholes to me. Its really gay how people do that, Guild groups sound like a winner..

Electric_Jester

Electric_Jester

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

EP

E/Me

Alright, I shall edit the names ... I do have screenshots to prove it, (or rather my friend does). I mean people like this should be brought out into the light, anti-naming policies only serves to protect people like this.

I would be MORE than happy to send any of them a tell in the game posting the link to this, so they might come in and prattle on about how they "did nothing wrong", despite the screen shot evidence.

But really, I didnt mean this to be a giant flame thread, simply a way to inform the general public that people like this are out there and should be avoided.

Magister.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Electric_Jester
Howdy all,

I really hate when stuff like this happens, so since these people like to act this way I shall try my best to inform people of thier actions, so they have no one else to play with and burn, but themselves.
Happened to me in the UW too but it was a monk there who was the sole survivor for a party of 8 who decided to loot first and then see about ressing us. We spared him the trouble and just left, he's on my list now so I can make sure I'll never team up with him ever again.

Thorin

Thorin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Nomad

House Of Flying Drunkards [Lush]

N/Me

Yeah that sucks, but it's something you have to deal with. Some people are just asshats, like the trade window scammers. I had one try that on me. He tried to pay 4 gold instead of 4k.

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

I thought it was bad when my team got deliberately zoned when a green dropped for me but this just makes me so mad.

I feel sad for this monk since monks have a rough ride on the best of days.

One philosophy that i live by and which i have 100% faith in is "what goes around, comes around".

ArenaNet, if you do read what the OP has said here, you would be wise to take some form of action against this cancer which is rife in your game.
Auto loot collection upon death and a two day suspension for these foul excuses for humans would be an appropriate course of action.

Scum...absolute scum.

blane

blane

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Singapore

Sg Knights

N/Me

Auto loot collection upon death,huh? Sounds like a great idea to me. Will a menu pop up like after mission loot collection? That will be cool.

burai

burai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Fishermen's Haven

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions
I thought it was bad when my team got deliberately zoned when a green dropped for me but this just makes me so mad.

I feel sad for this monk since monks have a rough ride on the best of days.

One philosophy that i live by and which i have 100% faith in is "what goes around, comes around".

ArenaNet, if you do read what the OP has said here, you would be wise to take some form of action against this cancer which is rife in your game.
Auto loot collection upon death and a two day suspension for these foul excuses for humans would be an appropriate course of action.

Scum...absolute scum.
/signed in oh so many ways

Amand

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/N

Disgusting how far virtual greed can go. Some people take all their failures into a game while it's meant to relax and enjoy. Scum indeed...

Cobalt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

Some people are idiots, I have had that happen to me but was before greens, Had a gold max Runic hammer drop and no one would res me until they could pick it up.

I have had black dye drop for me that I did not see, and one player fall back said he was afk for bathroom break when is was just waiting to pick up the dye, then had the nerve to brag about it and type ROFL haha crap to me. I have even had people sit down on my drops trying to hide them so they could pick them up. I have had people try to pawn off mursat tokens for ecto, try to offer gold when should be plat, start teams in TOA collect money from everyone then leave.

With no real admin on the servers people can get away with pretty much anything so you have to protect your own butt when you can.

Electric_Jester,

You might not be able to post names but I bet the admin here would not be opposed to some incriminating screen shots that just happen to show the players names.

Lord Kibinto

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions
Auto loot collection upon death and a two day suspension for these foul excuses for humans would be an appropriate course of action.
I agree with the auto loot collection on death, that would be a great solution to this sort of problem. I, however, disagree with the two day ban. They knew what they were doing is wrong, and thus should pay worse than a two day ban as the consequences. Two days isn't really that long to go without playing a game, so i would suggest increasing it to a 1 week, or even 10 day ban.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobalt
You might not be able to post names but I bet the admin here would not be opposed to some incriminating screen shots that just happen to show the players names.
I would love to know who these people are, so that i would be able to make sure that i never got into a group with one of them.

Lag Hell

Lag Hell

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

That title turned me on 4 a sec there
anyways, ppl like these r very annoying... happened 2 me once, in UW over a shard, the guy was so desperate over 3k, he didnt rez any1 and 4got about the ghost.... pathetic really

Old Dood

Old Dood

Middle-Age-Man

Join Date: May 2005

Lansing, Mi

W/Mo

This happened to me also in Sorrow's. I was stunned to watch them all pick up the loot while I lay there dead after I busted my ass keeping them alive over own self. I just warped out of there and left them on their own.

John Bloodstone

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Requiem Lords

R/Me

Ick, glad I have never come across people like that.

Why Guild Wars even has a time limit on dropped items is beyond me. Imo if an item drops for one person, it should remain that way until that member leaves the party. Also, when zoning into a new area, any coloured drops should be put into a collection window similar to the end of missions.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Bloodstone
Ick, glad I have never come across people like that.

Why Guild Wars even has a time limit on dropped items is beyond me. Imo if an item drops for one person, it should remain that way until that member leaves the party. Also, when zoning into a new area, any coloured drops should be put into a collection window similar to the end of missions.
I couldn't agree more, its funny however running about after a farming session collecting all the timed out drops.

But you are right that items should never ever time out.

Cobalt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
I couldn't agree more, its funny however running about after a farming session collecting all the timed out drops.

But you are right that items should never ever time out.
I agree as long as they are in the party, but if they leave the party it should be up for grabs.

Sunman222

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Moa Birds

W/E

i had a max req 9 rare storm bow drop when i died, good thing my group was nice and rezed me

EF2NYD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Couldn't the "good friend" rez or take the items instead to give to said monk? If it's someone I know, I'd camp their item as well to keep any others from stealing it.

DarkWasp

DarkWasp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Paradise

Agency Of Forbidden Fruits [Oot]

R/A

You know, every time I read about people waiting to rez so they get the items...

I start to, OK THATS IT SOMEONE IS GOING TO DIE!

*Grabs a security guard's fire arm*

*Gets dragged out of the room*

+Yelling in the distance+ "Hey! you are that guy that stole a shield!" "GRAB HIM!" "I'm going to get you for that!" BAM! "He missed, get him" BONK(Baton in the back of the head)

*Security gaurds come back in the room*

"You know, why didnt we arrest the guy that stole something?"

"If it was against the law to steal, we wouldnt have made the 5 minute rule."

"Heh true"

*Wasp slips back in the room with a gun*

"Hey that was my gun!"

Wasp: "5 minute rule, its up for grabs now"

(In summary - I stopped going with pick up groups, Its either henchmen, guild, freinds, or friend's guild)

Mormegil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobalt
Electric_Jester,

You might not be able to post names but I bet the admin here would not be opposed to some incriminating screen shots that just happen to show the players names.
You bet wrong.

But I bet none of us would mind receiving a PM with the names of these kind guys. Or, at least, here's one poster who wouldn't.

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

Sadly, this is why I play more and more alone. I'm sorry to hear about that. Everyone dies sometimes. Their names should be posted imho.. maybe it would encourage a better community with checks in place. I need to find more people like you monk to play with. I'd have been right there ressing her and congratulating her on her drops lol. Oh well. Hopefully it didnt color her day too badly.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

you care too much...so your green items got stolen. It's a shitty thing to do but it happens all the time. Move on...more overrated...err I mean green items will drop.

jdwoody

jdwoody

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Austin

I remember a month or so ago when someone posted a similar story about the UW and a handful of people said they would do the same thing.

Yet another reason to go henchies/guildies only...

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

Personally I could care less about items anymore anyway. Mostly its quality of play.. and by that I dont mean efficiency, speed, number of drops per second lol, minimal number of deaths per hour if any at all, etc. I just wish to play with people who want to enjoy the game, have some semblance of patience, and dont get on other people for a mistake that could happen to anyone. Only after that are the previous things important. I'm an idealist. Obviously. :P

Count Feanor

Count Feanor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Hellsing Organization or... RIGHT BEHIND YOU!!

The Royal Priesthood

N/W

Can you PM me with the names so I know who to watch out for?

Teufel Eldritch

Teufel Eldritch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Shadar Logoth

The Legendary Majestic 12

N/

I have had this happen to me a cpl times. The last time was in the FoW & I had a shard drop for me while I was dead. Instead of the Monks rezzing me they stood around near the shard waiting for it to change. What the aholes didnt know was I was on TeamSpeak with a buddy of mine. I suggested that he act like he was going on with the mission with the hopes they would follow him...they did & as soon as they did he ran back to my shard & I exited the map & my friend picked it up. =) I let him keep it tho. Just as long as the loot pinchers didn't get it I'm cool.

bkriley

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

California

Unknown Enemy

E/Mo

I'd like the names too, to be sure it's none of my guild mates. (could't imagine any of them doing that thou.....we got a small group.)

The Hated

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

I was in THK last night and a black dye dropped for this guy up on the wall, I said "dude if you dont want that can I have it?" just joking around, well we fight our way up there and dude runs right past his dye, again I say "if youre not going to pick it up I will" and he didnt, and I did.

IPlayGuildWars

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Penguins of Doom

Mo/W

wiping of characters seems appropriate.

If all you can do is steal other people's items, you don't deserve any.

BeatWolf

BeatWolf

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

This happened to me in pre-searing on a charr run with some random guy. I was my monk after getting gang raped by a group of charr he left me for dead, after he seen a purple sword, i think it was a butterfly sword (which was pretty good item for pre-searing) assigned to me. I waitied a good 15 mins or so telling him i wont let him have it, but this guy wouldent give in... for a stupid pre-searing item worth, what 200 gold lol. What a Jackass.

St0rM

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

England

Elite Casters Guild

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
you care too much...so your green items got stolen. It's a shitty thing to do but it happens all the time. Move on...more overrated...err I mean green items will drop.
That was a bit un-called for it wouldnt be like that if it happened to you come on dont be a moddy motherfo.Sorry dude that your m8 lost his weapons i swear i i knew who those ppl were in real life there would be trouble.

Xen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Holy Patriots

E/Me

When Me and my freind where farming with others he got a green drop first,but the moment it dropped a warrior Sprinted towards Sorrow's Furnace portal.That would have benn his first green drop.Please PM me so we know who is behind these things.

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Ok that was very very bad behavior on their part. A punishment would seem to be in order. However, everyone just needs to outsmart these guys. Next time, do this:

(you are dead with a Green/Gold on the ground for you)
You: Rez me guys
Them: No I want your stuff
You: You want that POS? I had two drop yesterday. Rez me and I'll give it to you now, so we don't have to wait.

Now they are in a dilema. Anyone this slimy is also very lazy, and won't want to wait. Especially if you play the item down big time. Of course, when (if) they rez you, get the item, and LEAVE.

Theos

Theos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

River Dancing

Eternal Treachery [TimE]

Me/E

I have to say that something like this, not exactly this happened to me in GF, we were fighting Yakslapper and a doly so I did my best to stop them from healing and spamming MoP, which I did to some degree well Before I got ganged up on by the carvers... who being about five or six did me in quick, our monks tried to save me but to much damage really. So I die, happily waiting to be ressed since I had atleast totally diverted Yakslapper and the Doly's really die fast... so I felt good. So the rest of the team whipes out the doly and the "dead" yakslapper and ofcourse for me drops "A" The Yakslapper As you guessed it no one would res me at first and they, all but one, just stood their on the green item... mostlikely clicking like mad to get it. I was pissed but... what do I care the goods are deep in SF... now what happened made my day. Remember that one who wasn't there on the pile? He had apperantly gone AFK and when he came back he immidetiatly ressed me, all the idiots left immediatly after I picked it up and I must say I had a good laugh. I thanked the guy who ressed me, who is now on my FL and we now clear SF regularly.

So though alot of people are jackasses... there are some rosses in the thorn bush.

Electric_Jester

Electric_Jester

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

EP

E/Me

Thanks for taking an active intrest in this thread people. While Anet is not a terrible company when it comes policies concerning the players on thier servers, Sometimes there are matter's that just need to be regulated by players.

I mean I remember back in the days of AC (Asherons Call, which I played regularally for many years) We had REAMS pages in threads all over the place naming scammers, dubious traders, con artists, griefers, etc etc etc...

Which really made shopping in the "hub" a little more bearable, or even just out and about.

Nice to see that maybe while the admins of these forums and others, may not want to name names for whatever reason they might have, that the players are still taking an active intrest in stopping people like this.

Magister.

Solaris

Solaris

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

R/Rt

Hey! I didn't know that items are timed out! I thought when an item in your name drops it's yours and if you don't pick it up it would be lost!
Really this game is full of surprises ..... wicked ones too!

Zaxares

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Bastion of Imagination

Asia Heaven

Mo/W

Does anybody know what's the exact time out period? Sometimes in prolonged battles (like the Undead Hordes quest in Beetletun) you're too busy keeping alive to really notice the items falling on the ground. Some unscrupulous people could be watching for them and quickly pick up good items that you didn't notice belonged to you.