The Final Assault w/Henchies?

SantaClause

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Has anyone completed this quest w/henchies? I get all the way to the machine boss after clearing the area and end up running from binder to binder trying to kill them all at the same time. But, they seem to just spawn fast enought to keep me running in arround with one left. (pic included)

This quest would be very simple with a single human player but finding a pug sucks and takes forever. Any advice on how to defeat w/ henchies only?

Here is what Ive tried:
I tried bombing them with the kegs for the delay kill, but it did not damage them.
The big machines attacks damage the surrounding partols and furnace gaurds but do not seem to affect the binders

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

I got all that way too and felt so cheated. I had to quit because of the same lame reason.

Mario 64 Master

Mario 64 Master

wats going on

Join Date: Jan 2005

Trumbull, Connecticut

Nuclear Launch Detected [Nu]

W/Mo

Hey, you forgot to block out the mending icon, now I know one of the skills you use. I think I'll go and steal your build now.

borkbork

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Me/

Nod, and from the picture, I think your build is:

Mending, Sever Artery, Gash, Final Thrust, Galrath Slash....

And the possibles:
Healing Signet, Healing Hands.

Wait, isn't that the paladin premade?

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

Why on earth would you white out what skills you use? You ask for help but don't seem to want to offer any yourself.

Shessh......some people.

DxaKrator

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander Ryker
Why on earth would you white out what skills you use? You ask for help but don't seem to want to offer any yourself.

Shessh......some people.
its becouse some paranoid 8 years old think some one can steal their skill setup...

GW Monkey

GW Monkey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hmm. I'm guessing it doesn't matter, really.

While I'm sure eventually someone will figure out a build that will allow you to get all 3 down in time by sending the hench one way while you go another and then sprint for the 3rd (not a lot of time, no sir!) but even so...

To take down the > THREE < Djinn, with hench, even if you do manage to separate them and fight them 1-on-1... well I'm guessing the 1 or 2 builds that could pull that off won't be the same build that can take out all 3 Rage Binders in time.

You definitely earn /brag rights if you're the first to finish FA with hench only.

SantaClause

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Quote:
Originally Posted by DxaKrator
its becouse some paranoid 8 years old think some one can steal their skill setup... No. Because a 24 year old engineer does not want random noobs who have not even played there class hijacking the thread becuase they don't like a skill setup and want to feel better about being not being able to beat there mirror.


Back to the topic
Maybe an ele w/ some long lasting AoE skills can cast and run to the next one hoping that the final AoE hit will kill it while they run to the next one.

KaPe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

"To take down the > THREE < Djinn, with hench, even if you do manage to separate them and fight them 1-on-1... well I'm guessing the 1 or 2 builds that could pull that off won't be the same build that can take out all 3 Rage Binders in time.
"

You vastly overrate Djinn, killing them wouldn't be a problem, since hench actually gather in one place, so damage would be spreaded. Now, killing Rage Binders is just... Meh, I simply couldn't do it, always a split second too late. And that was assuming I run to 3rd before 2nd was killed and while he was being finished off by firestorm.

snepp

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/Mo

I was able to do it as an elem. It was frustrating and I was about to quit before making one more run at it. Basically relied on the hench finishing them off as I was using the DoT's on the next in line.

Warskull

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2005

[out]

Degen is the key. Since you are a W/Mo with a sword you likely have sever artery. Drop one down most of the way, sever artery, hop to the next, weaken and sever artery, hit the third and kill. Then return to the first and finish him. Sever artery stops them from getting natural regen. You still have to be pretty fast about it.

Any way you go about it as a warrior it is going to be extremely difficult with henchies.

AtomicMew

AtomicMew

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by SantaClause
No. Because a 24 year old engineer does not want random noobs who have not even played there class hijacking the thread becuase they don't like a skill setup and want to feel better about being not being able to beat there mirror. Yet somehow you manage to bring up your credentials AND make a loller of a grammar mistake in the same setence. If you want to sound smart, you've got to do better than "I'm an engineer." Engineer.... Congrats? Want a cookie?

Swarnt Brightstar

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by traversc
Yet somehow you manage to bring up your credentials AND make a loller of a grammar mistake in the same setence. If you want to sound smart, you've got to do better than "I'm an engineer." Engineer.... Congrats? Want a cookie?

I want a cookie!!!

I havent even tried to reach Sorrows or Grenths... If I can have help that'd be nice Sounds hard though

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by traversc
Yet somehow you manage to bring up your credentials AND make a loller of a grammar mistake in the same seNtence. If you want to sound smart, you've got to do better than "I'm an engineer." Engineer.... Congrats? Want a cookie? If you bust people's balls on grammar, please be sure you know how to spell.

~ Makk.

Digitalblast

Digitalblast

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Calgary AB.

Wanta Fanta [WTF] mo/mes, war/el, nec/ra

E/N

I made a post in the sanitarium:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=58379

About adding energy bars to party menu, a few posts down somemone starts flaming me for my skill loadout.

Messy

Messy

huh?

Join Date: Jun 2005

Follow the rainbow, make a left and voila

Guildless

R/

Quote:
No. Because a 24 year old engineer does not want random noobs who have not even played there class hijacking the thread becuase they don't like a skill setup and want to feel better about being not being able to beat there mirror. wow, you might be a 24 year old engineer, but surely have the grammar of the paranoid 8 year old : hint.. spell check, HINT... grammar books

there class = their class
there mirror= their mirror
becuase = because ( ok maybe this was a typo )

don't be so self righteous it brings out my nasty side

super dooper

super dooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

W/

so, anyway.. shut up and talk about killing the binders as a warrior. I'm sitting in game right now at the binders with my 60% DP (sorrow's flame/fist on Mhenlo and Lina.. hmm), my 7 hench with 60% DP, and an axe W/R.

Things I've tried:

- running around in circles killing them, last one gets back up as I'm killing the 3rd.
- killing one, running over to the other and just hitting him normally (no skills, so I have full adrenaline), going back to the first one that I killed, normally get there right before he gets up. Then I spike him with all of my skills and run to the last one, yet the other one gets up when I have him about halfway down.
- hitting one to near-death and running onto the next one hoping Dunham degens the first one to death. (Dunham sucks -.-)

anyway, looking pretty hopeless right now, I've got about 236 health and Mhenlo and friends get killed in 1 sorrow's flame/fist..

Ollj

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Killed the golem with 6 hencheman and a level 19 W/R and a pet.
25 respawns and a lot of luck.
after 20 respawns it became kinda funny running in circles with 6 hencheman killing them over and over again, slowly getting faster every time, than we tried a split up strategy.
I was protective smiting and we split up after killing one, the hencheman all follow the warrior. Of course the split up groups take a lot longer, but they can go back and kill the respawned one.

However hencheman AI bloody fails against djins!
They seperated easily.

super dooper

super dooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

W/

FINALLY, that was the longest I ever spent trying to do one damn thing in this game. I got really freaking lucky and the 'have Dunham degen them to death' thing worked. I ran to the first one, weakened him, called target on the next one, and right as I finished killing the second one the first one died. Third one went down fast and that was the end of that.

The Flame Djinns didn't even take as long to kill, even with my massive death penalty and low health. Devona and Thom grouped right next to me and then I just Disrupting Chopped and spiked their ass. (Devona's knockdown helped, too )

Vexx

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Makkert
If you bust people's balls on grammar, please be sure you know how to spell.

~ Makk. lol

SantaClause

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Quote:
Originally Posted by super dooper
FINALLY, that was the longest I ever spent trying to do one damn thing in this game. I got really freaking lucky and the 'have Dunham degen them to death' thing worked. I ran to the first one, weakened him, called target on the next one, and right as I finished killing the second one the first one died. Third one went down fast and that was the end of that.

The Flame Djinns didn't even take as long to kill, even with my massive death penalty and low health. Devona and Thom grouped right next to me and then I just Disrupting Chopped and spiked their ass. (Devona's knockdown helped, too ) Congrats! It can be done. Time for me to make a second pass down THEIRE.

(waits for engrish teecher to slap on rist becuase I like it alot)

Mysterial

Mysterial

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Servants of Fortuna

E/Me

I've tried it twice. First time I couldn't kill the rage binders fast enough with my knockdown based build meant for taking out the normal summit guys, so I had to give up.

Second time I took an Arcane Echo nuking build, managed to kill the rage binders, managed to kill two of three flame djinn with 60% DP by drawing them away, got to the last one.

Died trying to take out the third, three henchies left alive (Lina, Aidan, Dunham), then something rediculous happened that would be hilarious if I didn't lose two hours of playing because of it.

The invulnerable NPC that gives you the kegs was in between the djinn and the henchies. The djinn was apparently too stupid to float three inches to the side to get past the NPC and Lina was too stupid to do the same to attempt to resurrect.

Thus, after all that, I got stuck there and couldn't complete it. Left the game on an hour just in case to no avail.

I'm not taking that quest with henchmen again, and I'm extremely disappointed that after months of people complaining about it Arenanet continues to make quests the henchmen can't handle and doesn't effectively deal with the game-breaking bugs in the places where they do work (or where you manage to surpass their uselessness). Having henchmen in the game was a great idea to get people who don't always want to group to play the game and it's too bad they're wasting it due to all these issues.