And the annnoying flavour of the week is....

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

IWAY Warriors with Pets for tankers... damn they are annoying!

Discuss on ways to counter these guys since they seem to be every other team in the HoH.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

don't kill the pets....

Manderlock

Manderlock

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

TX

Crimson ScS

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
don't kill the pets....
Hahaha, Thats not an obvious awnser.

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

1.Dont kill the pets if possible,
2.Use Shadow of Fear and other AoE Hexes.
3.Use Ward agaisnt Melee, with Eruption for some damage and blindage.
4.Kill the N/Mo or Mo/N's in each group.

Remember..Its a warrior based team, and from my experiance playing as a warrior, theres enough counters to them then you can count.

Ollj

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Beating them even with a team of 4 mesmers, 3 monks and one necromancer (or 3 mesmers 3 monks 2 necromancers) proves to me how pathetic this build really is.
Theorectically a bunch of warriors with pets should just own the mesmers, in fact it was the other way around all the time.
why? because its retard warriors rushing in fashion once again.

Never seen iway holding the hoh also, anyone seen something different?

how to beat a stupid build thats not even good but just in fashion ... let me wink with some fences:
-melee necromancers (they get more from each dead pet than a warrior could ever get)
-illusion mesmers and water magic (they slow down foes and kill them slowly but for sure, and do no Aoe (kill pets last, wow what a hint))
-aegis
-blurred vision (or just another aegis)
-guardian
-smiting monks (Yes, monks smite, not elementalists)

Mumblyfish

Mumblyfish

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Blighty

Kansas City Hotsteppers [KCHS]

This discovery is new and shocking.

Bast

Bast

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yeah, I'm stunned too! *OMG*

Lord Kibinto

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollj
Never seen iway holding the hoh also, anyone seen something different?
yep, i have seen this a couple times before.

Eonwe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

New Jersey

Idiot Savants

Um, careface? :|

Tigris Of Gaul

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Rust works pretty well.

Aetherfox

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/R

i've held hoh with iway for the better part of an hour but seriously that means nothing. without any interruption or healing, the only way you can "hold" the hoh is to allow someone else to take it, and then use brute force to beat them away and hope your hero does not get interrupted in the last 10 seconds when you retake it. there aren't any "inferior" builds, there are just inferior players.

in my experience (only my experience!) these problems iway cannot overcome ->

1. conditions -> traps. no way to remove cripple, bleeding, blinding.
2. hexes -> AOE hexes like soothing images, shadow of fear, suffering.
3. ward against foes -> enough said

what problems iway CAN overcome using a necro mix

Aegis and other block/evade -> using warriors cunning to spike targets
Heal Balls -> well of profane + maelstrom
Disease -> using tainted flesh

hope that's simple enough answer for you.

xChaoSx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

KCHS

W/N

its basicly a fame farming build and you can hold hoh a couple of times if know what you're doing.

lynxxClan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Select Few [SF]

Mo/Me

Its actually pretty simple, IWAY was designed to beat smite, Think of smite as a million ants coming marching at you trying to kill you, one wont do much but a bunch of small damages over short periods of time will kill you more often then it wont. Think of IWAY as a big Giant stompy creature that walks all over the ants.
Now you want to kill this stompy giant creature, then what do you do? its easy, you think like a human, trap it, kill it, and eat it.

Control my friend, is what its all about when trying to beat IWAY, a single prot monk could do it, a few mesmers could do it, a suicide necro could do it, a ranger build could do it.
Monk --> Think Aegis + blessed Aura + Yakslapper = 17 second aegis
Mesmer --> That skill that stops all adrenaline everytime they attack
Suicide Necro --> Dark Aura + Death Nova + Sacrifice Spells, blow em all to hell
Rangers --> Distracting shot, savage shot, crippling shot, pindown

This is just the tip of the iceberg when thinking baout how to stop IWAY and its actually pretty easy to do, anyone who is successful in tombs knows that IWAY is a counter to smite and nothing more.

LuLu

Guild Wars Cutie

Join Date: May 2005

In a land far far away

Te

Mo/Me

shameless plug:
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cookiehoarder

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Melbourne, Florida.

[HTR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by xChaoSx
its basicly a fame farming build and you can hold hoh a couple of times if know what you're doing.
Actually you can't

Dead Panda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

N/Me

Somehow sympathetic visage and soothing images comes to mind.

Maagus

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Pilsner Urquell Guardians [PUG]

I have been playing iway for a while. Not because of fame farming - it´s not much anyway but simply because it is fun to me When I want to hold HoH longer or experiment with guild builds, I won´t play iway.
Iway can be countered for example wards and two - three meteor showers on warriors in your ward, meanwhile killing their necro and monk (if any).

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by lynxxClan
Its actually pretty simple, IWAY was designed to beat smite

was it really? because all the smite groups i've been in have always decimated IWAY quite easily. perhaps i was just in good smite groups vs. n00b IWAY groups?

FrogDevourer

FrogDevourer

on a GW break until C4

Join Date: Feb 2005

In your shadow

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