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and when i meant ring of fire i meant the whoel ring of fire as like the missions and Ember light camp
WHICH IS HARDER Sorrows Furnace or Ring Of Fire
Ruoenkruez Tudor
Tactical-Dillusions
SF is for children. Where is the hard content? Only the iron forgeman has so far eluded extermination. 
Starsky-sama
/definitely Ring of Fire (or you mean the 3 fire island mish or just RoF?)
SF is pretty simple/enjoyable.
SF is pretty simple/enjoyable.
yesitsrob
Definitely Fire Islands, Sorrow's Furnace is good though, still like it... There are two other areas to go to for a slightly harder challenge (UW and FoW)... Everything is a bit too easily accomplished though with only average teams, need some really hardcore difficult areas still 
.. for teams of 12 or something
Maxiemonster
Sorrow's Furnace. It's not that hard, but the Ring of Fire is too easy. And the Fire Djinns are so good it makes Sorrow's Furnace hard if you ask me
prime stinger
the missions around that area are hard because theres hardly anyone there to do them with, sf is easily done with 1 ele 1 war 2 monks
LifeInfusion
Sorrow's Furnace is doable with henches to a point.
RoF = near impossible with henches, they aggro too much
RoF = near impossible with henches, they aggro too much
Sean Connery
The Orozar quest makes rof look like cake.
john little
I'd say SF is harder, but that players are so experienced in combating NPC strategies that it seems easier. RoF was always about finding a decent group, with one it was pretty easy. SF has a lot more situations where brute force simply won't win, and the PUG's seem to understand that a balanced party is required. I'd also say that the balanced nature of the quests is why henchmen are more effective than usual. The only thing that really makes SF easier is the ressurection points, without those it would be a lot more tricky.
The titan quests are a good challenge, the first is doable with henchmen and is pretty easy, but all the rest pose quite a challenge.
The titan quests are a good challenge, the first is doable with henchmen and is pretty easy, but all the rest pose quite a challenge.
ShadowStorm
I can solo almost everything on the RoF Island Chain. I can't solo anything in Sorrow's Furnace. Enough said.
A NERD1989
sorrows furnace isnt hard coz its not a mission there for it shouldnt be hard
RTSFirebat
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Originally Posted by LifeInfusion
Sorrow's Furnace is doable with henches to a point.
RoF = near impossible with henches, they aggro too much You say that, but I complete the mission and bonus of Hell's Princeple yesterday with a full team of henchmen since no one would take my character. We did fine, no deaths at all, no aggro issues. If you aggroing then you don't know how to handle the NPCs correctly. Kampfkeks
I don't know which is harder. Personally i think both are too easy. You basically only screw up when one of your teammates does so and sadly...
For both, RoF and SF henchmen are the superior choice over PUG. They do atleast one thing... focus fire. One thing you'll never get into the thick skulls of people. Heck, some persons want the Target Calls even removed from the game alltogether because they are "useless". I notice most people having problems with henchmen aggro are those that love to say a warrior entering battle first is a noob. Some really should examine their aggro bubble Oo
Numa Pompilius
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Sorrow's Furnace is doable with henches to a point.
RoF = near impossible with henches, they aggro too much Did Thunderhead Keep -> Hells Precipice + bonuses with henches yesterday. I've got a mesmer. Thunderhead Keep was tricky until I realized I needed to keep close tabs on the mad rusher king, the Ring of Fire & Hells Precipice were straight-forward. Sorrows Furnace I've only tried a little, and it seemed easier but honestly quite boring.
super dooper
Orozar quest alone is harder than any of the fire island missions. (if you say you did the whole quest with 1 ele, 1 monk, and 1 warrior, or even 2 monks, then I'd like to see a video or multiple screenshots of the different points, party window and all. -.-)
cooljelly
Some quest, such as Orozar, is pretty challenging especially when you just follow the mission instead of cheating for a little bit... There are other quests in SF that are just very easy especially when you know what to do.
The ring of fire missions are easy as well if you know the mission well. They are very dorable with henchies. They might seem hard if you do not know how to send two warriors to destory the mursaat tower and keep the rest of the team outside. Other than that, they're pretty straight foward. In PVE monsters just follow certain AI and do not change strategy... Overally, I think the quests in SF, at least some parts, are harder than the missions on RoF.
Vilaptca
RoF is harder because getting a decent group is harder. There are so many districts in SF each one near packed, that it is quite easy to get a half way decent group.
mrmojo
SF is easy, you can kill a shitload of enemies by yourself and 3 henchies.
derrtyboy69
sorrows furnace is really easy, but its also my favorite PvE area in the game, cause killing things is fun, losing isnt
Ruoenkruez Tudor
ok so far RoF 9 and Sf 4
giroml
I'm going to say SF because I did all of Ring of Fire with henchmen and yet though people said they did the same with SF, so far I cannot do Orizon or Alkor with henchies.
Rahl
Hmm... They're about the same IMO... both have their quirks and hard parts and easy parts...
Cat Tabby
I think probably sf, although orozar isn't that hard. I did it with henchmen, and once you realize orozar is actually quite tough, and can heal himself against three ice golems while you clear up the rest, its not that bad.
What makes sf harder, i think, is that your average enemy seems a bit smarter and its a bit less obvious who to target first. Obviously your priests of sorrow go first; but who next. Dark binders with their well of suffering; taskmasters with cry of frust, shatter enchantment et al; surveyors with melhandrus arrow; knights with disrupting chop thingy. There is a lot more to think about. And thats not to mention those dredge armies. I do think, however, a big problem with the guild wars game, aside from many plus points, is that the bosses are too easy. Thats equally true of sf and the rof. Bosses should be able to stand alone and pose a real threat, but any danger they pose in the game comes from the greater or lesser number of minions surrounding them. Consider, for example; has anyone been in a party where the lich thing boss at the end of hells precipice actually killed anyone? Aside from a periodic teleport into a lava lake, which u just walk out of, hes pretty tame. Glint, of course, is the obvious exception, but shes not a proper boss.
sorrlymesentoe
neither are hard, u can do both with henchmen if ur not stupid
MaglorD
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I'm going to say SF because I did all of Ring of Fire with henchmen and yet though people said they did the same with SF, so far I cannot do Orizon or Alkor with henchies.
For Orazor, all you need is a minion master and this quest becomes a piece of cake. Did it with my Elem and a minion master, rest henchies.
trelloskilos
I think RoF is harder personally.
Those seals that sap energy and throw chain lightning on you are pretty tough, and anyone who has had a run-in with Covetina the Matron without a mesmer or an interrupt ranger will tell you that she's a tough tough boss! The three RoF quests are henchable, but only just. (I managed to hench Thunderhead, RoF & Abbadons. Precipice eluded me right at the end, cos the henchies would get themselves killed by running into the lava when the lich teleported). Most of SF is easily henchable. I completed Part A of Orozar's with them and did a stupid move on part B. Haven't got to the forgemaster yet, but time will tell on that....
Sai of Winter
Ring of Fire=Friggin easy
Sorrow's Furnace=Some minor difficulty but still easy now.... Thunderhead Keep=Annoyingly hard at the end Cat Tabby
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anyone who has had a run-in with Covetina the Matron without a mesmer or an interrupt ranger will tell you that she's a tough tough boss
If you go out with neither a ranger or a mesmer you are always asking for trouble, especially against monk bosses especially. But who would do such a thing?
trelloskilos
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If you go out with neither a ranger or a mesmer you are always asking for trouble, especially against monk bosses especially. But who would do such a thing?
 (OK, I'll fess up....my monk.) 
Xue Yi Liang
The way I see it, you're gonna end up doing both anyway, so why should it matter?
Rossaroni
Nothing in GW (PvE-wise) is hard as long as your entire party uses their head.
Now, if you have someone who's an idiot (usually a warrior), SF would be harder because there are more groups to aggro there. In the Ring of Fire chain, you can generally pull groups at will and not worry because the groups are spaced out more. Plus, at the end, you can make a really specialized build, because you go up against the exact same thing all the time. In SF, there's more variety as to your enemies, so you have to make a more general build.
Ruoenkruez Tudor
now its RoF 10 and Sf 5
Doomlord_Slayermann
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Ring of Fire=Friggin easy
Sorrow's Furnace=Some minor difficulty but still easy now.... Thunderhead Keep=Annoyingly hard at the end I know how it is. Message me in game sometime and I'll be happy to lend a hand with my interrupt/shutdown hammer tank. It's a pretty simple formula for beating the mission: Dwaven Battle Stance = Caster Bosses Get Screwed Staggering Blow -> Crushing Blow -> Heavy Blow = Melee Bosses (Perfected Armor anyone?) Get Screwed IGN is Dooomlord Slayermann, in case you haven't noticed the text to the left of the post.
chris_nin00
Sorrows Furnace IS HARDER right here!!! Its just plain hard.
Ring of Fire is easy when you have Greater Conflagration + Winter= all damage is cold.
Sai of Winter
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I know how it is. Message me in game sometime and I'll be happy to lend a hand with my interrupt/shutdown hammer tank. It's a pretty simple formula for beating the mission:
Dwaven Battle Stance = Caster Bosses Get Screwed Staggering Blow -> Crushing Blow -> Heavy Blow = Melee Bosses (Perfected Armor anyone?) Get Screwed IGN is Dooomlord Slayermann, in case you haven't noticed the text to the left of the post. I've already beaten Thunderhead Keep a long time ago, it took me many trials to defeat that forsaken mission. I've beaten all the other missions and quest too in SF and RoF.
Doomlord_Slayermann
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I've already beaten Thunderhead Keep a long time ago, it took me many trials to defeat that forsaken mission.
I've beaten all the other missions and quest too in SF and RoF. Just offering help if you needed it. TK is actually remarkably easy with a balanced team that can think strategically, but this describes 0.00000000001% of all PUGs. Same deal with RoF and SF, just that the enemies won't stack up if you take your time in defeating them like in TK.
Roland Halmoore
Ring of Fire is more difficult except for the stupid SF Priest Quest. You need non-NPCs for that.
Lou
Sorrows i alot easier unless you count the Orozar quest. Only quest their you cant do with henchies.
octaviancmb
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Sorrows i alot easier unless you count the Orozar quest. Only quest their you cant do with henchies.
My Mesmer did it with a full hench group just yesterday because I couldn't find a group that would *take* a Mesmer. Two henchmen died once each; otherwise it was a cakewalk. If I'd gone Mes/Mo I could have probably prevented even their deaths, but I stuck with what I was running at the time.
I haven't had any problems with henchmen groups in SF. It's a pretty easy area. If only my Monk, who sometimes groups with real people out of sense of charity, would have the same experience... cmb
Kai Nui
You are joking me right? SF is definitely easier than RoF.
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