Thoughts on Spiteful Spirit? (Curse)

What is everyones thoughts about the usefull nature of this skill in battle:

For 8-18 seconds, whenever target foe attacks or uses a skill, Spiteful Spirit deals 5-29 shadow damage to that foe and all adjacent foes.

costs 15
time: 2 sec
recharge: only 10 seconds

Basically i could see this being used very well by a set of two necros with it, or just one. All you would need to do is make sure it isnt removed, and the monk healing everyone is in trouble, or the protection monk is gonna be in trouble. If warriors are being a really bad pain.. hit one thats staying near a couple friends and they are gonna be in trouble fast. Mind you the goal is keeping this hex on them.

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I wanted my Dou build to have this for UW farming.
a R/N with with it.
its almost like another balths arua; you can have 1 going on constantly.

I run a curse/blood build and often use Spiteful Spirit. It's great for physical attack mobs like the Stone Summit Herders outside snake dance. I usually cast this on the Doylak Riders (healers) that accompany them. I use spiteful spirit, mark of pain, then parasidic bond all at the Doylak Rider (I also already cast Awaken the Blood on myself which makes these cures extra potent). Then I have the warrirors (usually henchies) attack the rider. Soon the whole mob should drop after about 10 seconds.

2 man uw runs ~ spiteful spirit + arcane echo + suffering + chaos storm = very quick runs with a solo monk.

biggest thing to remember is that spiteful spirit will stack on multiple attackers for example 1 aatxe with spiteful spirit will do around 30dmg to himself and others every hit which is a fair bit at there rate of attack, but when i put it on a second one with echo the dmg doubles up to the point they are basically taking 60dmg for every attack and if the recharge allows it then a 3rd one and 4th one makes up for some extremely quick killing. only problem is they are normally all dead before i can recharge. if you consider that a problem.

I havnt used it in other applications but as a support character its extrememly effective.

This would be an excellent skill against IWAYers who gang up on people. Takes em out quick!

almost all AoE are good against IWAY... so... that really doesn't matter.

I find mark of pain more useful thou... since the control of dmg is from you, not them... try mark of pain with a triple shot/dual shot ranger group and focus fire =P healing ball = nothing.

cast spiteful spirit on ranger or warrior (they attack alot more per minute than any caster's casting) if you going to use it on anyone. Then have the warrior chase you next to their monk... viola.

this skill is very annoying in FoW. it renders my warrior ineffective (don't attack with spiteful on). i still take dmg because no matter how much i say it the other warrior/s will always continue hacking away with this curse on.

against sword and axe warrios it is devestating. with 12 on curses it will deal almost 400dmg if it is not removed (of course the warrior needs to keep attacking). that is 400 to all around the cursed one too. the purpose of this skill is not to damage monks. it is to make them hard pushed to keep up. only one spell is doing 800 dmg (in PvP, thanks to focusing fire ). the rest of your team is free to act as normal.

i agree. this would be instadeath to IWAY. the damage against the cursed one would be around 5-6 hundred. they already have loads of necro spells on them (order and such) so they may not notice it . and they are all bunched.

This also works quite nicely as a deterrent to spike rangers, since short of removing the hex they'll trigger Spiteful Spirit three times per interrupt cycle. In combination with Enfeeble they'll damage themselves more than they can damage you per attack, and at the same rate as well. Ofcourse the 'no hex removal' clause makes this less applicable in tombs/GvG.

I like to use it directly on the monk, even if he has no-one nearby, he will stll get punished for using his healing skills. While yes he could have it removed, alot of people dont really pay much attention to what they have on them unless thier health/energy is being drained.

One a side note: Is it just me, or is SS the only AoE spell that does not trigger the foes to run away / scatter in order to avoid the damage? They just sit there and let it happen.

Tetris - since SS is based on the action of the foe it's not the same as the standard AoE effect. You cant remove the inherent trait of the enemy - wanting to crush it's foe :-)

Where something like Mark of Pain is triggered by our action and usually is firing quite a bit more than SS (i.e. I cast it on target, all party members attack said target, setting off extreme AoE dmg).

Although SS dmg is constant as long as foe is attacking, because it's based on that foes attack action, it gets nowhere near a true AoE.

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Spiteful is my most hated hex.

i don't see the fact that it only does 6-29 it can do way more it can do like 39 at least every hit + awaken the blood like 40 + everytime an enemy attacks so I LOVE the skill :P and you should try it in UW with an experienced monk and necro or something.

I haven't mastered this game, but I think SS is one of the most powerful skills there is. It should probably be nerfed, but I hope it isn't, cause I use it all the time.

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Particularly dangerous against IWAY and Frenzy Warriors, when used correctly.
Spiteful levels IWAY quickly when they're forced together (say, when you ball, and if you can keep their AoE spells of the N/E and trappers off your ball). And keeping Spiteful + cover on a frenzy warrior reduces their offensive ability a LOT.
I've seen it run in 8v8 HoH and GvG-we rely on it so much to the extent that it is sometimes the only spell we use to hurt IWAY warriors (in tombs, anyway), and it works very well.

Lol reminds me of a time when we were against minion masters they had about 50 minions and spiteful spirit!!!All teh numbers made me so happy .

I'm a N/Me and I do UW runs all the time and I think SS is the most powerful skill in the game. I do 41dmg with SS-->+ ATB+sup rune of curses+wicked scar=death to any1 who stands in my way! yeah and Arcane echo lets me cast it twice so with it on 2 foes and there goes the red on the enemys health bar.

SS is definitely one spell that I consider when you think of power.True power is shown when your enemy kills himself for you!

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K.. here's what I find works best (from experience).

I use SS instead of Empathy. Not only does it hurt the attacker, but it also penalizes hordes. It's horrible to use on monks. B/c I started as a N/Me, I learned to mix this with other skills to keep an enemy from casting.

If PvE, use backfire to suppress the casting frequency of an enemy, then use SS to punish them for attacking physcially. Best enemies (I find) to use SS on are Azure shadows b/c of their tendancy toward physical striking over casting.

In PvP, I find using SS on W works best.Although, I keep Parasitic Bond equipped as a cover hex. I rarely see monks with Convert Hexes in PvP. In PvP, I never use SS on a caster b/c it's just not very effective.

Although it may seem like a good idea, never use SS and Mark of Pain on the same enemy. From experience I find that you waste mana because MoP is only good if the enemy is receiving damange and SS is only good if the enemy is dealing damage. What I do is use SS on an enemy prone to frequent physical attacks, then use MoP on the guy next to him. Although it'll kill the guy with SS quicker, you also have to spend less time focussing on the enemy you just used SS on b/c MoP on the guy next to him will be dealing (probably) more damage than a direct attack.

Avoid using SS on enemies with: Shadow of Fear/Faintheartedness
Seems like a good idea to slow down the attack speed, but SS is only activated when the enemy attacks. Any other Skill that slows their attack rate
Use SS with foes hexed by: Soul Barbs
As soon as the hex is in place, Soul Barbs is activated which deals immediate damage Parasitic bond
Although it degens, it's better used as a cover hex to prevent removal of SS Insidious Parasite
Only if you're low on energy, but it improves your resilliance during attacks if you're the one on the receiving end. Also helps kill single enemy a little quicker. Awaken Blood
Face it... a +2 to curses is always welcome, and using this before you use SS will make it a little stronger

Nice little guide xenoranger.

I love SS. My little Necro was a girl without a purpose until I discovered what the SS craze was all about. I maxed out her curses to 16, got her new scar armor and got her Villnar's Staff. She now dishes out massive damage. I love her!

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