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trelloskilos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Guitarring Adventurers Society

R/N

20 Sep 2005 at 08:02 - 1

I've started a new character off, and I'm currently running him through the post sear Ascalon quests. On accepting the "Cities of Ascalon" quest though, I'm sure that the reward has been changed so that people can no longer get hold of the -50 focus item to build their 55hp Smite monks. Can anyone else confirm if the reward has been changed by Anet?

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

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Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

20 Sep 2005 at 08:51 - 2

Why don't you do the quest and see for yourself? It's not like it's hard. During the heyday of the 55 invincimonk I farmed that quest and sold that item for 20K a pop.
Probably a bit harder to sell today.

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

20 Sep 2005 at 08:55 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

During the heyday of the 55 invincimonk I farmed that quest and sold that item for 20K a pop.

Lucky you!

When the 55 monk was invented, I already had done that quest will 3 of my 4 chars and sold the bloody item to the trader because it appeared worthless (which it is to anyone except a 55 monk).

trelloskilos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Guitarring Adventurers Society

R/N

20 Sep 2005 at 09:16 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Why don't you do the quest and see for yourself? It's not like it's hard. During the heyday of the 55 invincimonk I farmed that quest and sold that item for 20K a pop.
Probably a bit harder to sell today.

I'm at work at the moment, and while I've got a bit of time to sneak a visit to the forums, I think firing up GW here will be generally frowned upon.

I will complete the mission tonight and see what happens, but I was just making a general observation on the quest and the reward that could have an impact on anyone planning an invincimonk build, and thought it might be of interest. After all, we've had 20 zillion threads on the Prot Bond nerf, and the Dying Nightmares in UW, but nothing on that item.

SJG

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

20 Sep 2005 at 12:43 - 5

I think the reward is the same. I managed to completely miss out this mission with my main characters because of where the giver stands. I happened across him a while back (this is after SF was released, I think), did the quest and I still got the -50 item.

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

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20 Sep 2005 at 12:49 - 6

Why in the name of Heaven would ANYONE buy the thing for any price, let alone "20K", if you could get one from doing a measly quest in Ascalon?

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

20 Sep 2005 at 12:51 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhedd

Why in the name of Heaven would ANYONE buy the thing for any price, let alone "20K", if you could get one from doing a measly quest in Ascalon?

Some people have already done that quest with all of their chars and that quest is not repeatable.

noblepaladin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

20 Sep 2005 at 16:49 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhedd

Why in the name of Heaven would ANYONE buy the thing for any price, let alone "20K", if you could get one from doing a measly quest in Ascalon?

You can make alot more than 20k in the time it takes to create a new character and get him through pre-searing and through most of Ascalon.

mm00re

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

In a van down by the river :)

After Dark Club [REAL]

W/Mo

20 Sep 2005 at 16:51 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by trelloskilos

I've started a new character off, and I'm currently running him through the post sear Ascalon quests. On accepting the "Cities of Ascalon" quest though, I'm sure that the reward has been changed so that people can no longer get hold of the -50 focus item to build their 55hp Smite monks. Can anyone else confirm if the reward has been changed by Anet?

Yes it is still available.

trelloskilos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Guitarring Adventurers Society

R/N

20 Sep 2005 at 17:01 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by mm00re

Yes it is still available.

You're right - I stand corrected. It's just been a while since I last had the "Cities of Ascalon" mission, and I thought it was a monk's weapon (It's a necro's) - Still, for the possibility of 20k, I think it's wise to hold onto it for a bit...

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

21 Sep 2005 at 00:59 - 11

my question is where is the -20 hp one handed weapon at?

NeXuS8

Lion's Arch Merchant

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Wild Bladez

W/Mo

21 Sep 2005 at 01:04 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by twicky_kid

my question is where is the -20 hp one handed weapon at?

their is a -20?

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

21 Sep 2005 at 01:10 - 13

Yep, I have a -20 item on my Monk as well. Another early quest gives this item, I don't remember which. -20 items are also possible to find as loot, although I have yet to see a -50 item found.

Amused Observer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

21 Sep 2005 at 02:23 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fantus

Some people have already done that quest with all of their chars and that quest is not repeatable.

And even worse. . . sold the bloody item at the trader for a few measly gc.

<====is one of them

snapp

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/

21 Sep 2005 at 02:28 - 15

I sold the one I got for 20K as well, just before the update, what a lucky break.

TMWNN

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Gold Coast, Australia

Tyrannus Australis [Trex]

W/N

21 Sep 2005 at 05:23 - 16

yeah i found a gold grim ciesta the other day in GF with +12 eneergy +5 armour and -20 hp

Experiment_Jon

Frost Gate Guardian

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Band Geeks

W/Mo

21 Sep 2005 at 08:24 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMWNN

yeah i found a gold grim ciesta the other day in GF with +12 eneergy +5 armour and -20 hp

I've got a similary storm artifact.

The -20 that anyone can get is a focus from pre searing.

Also I have like 3 -50 items...

viet

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

cali, usa

The Samurai Demons

Mo/W

26 Sep 2005 at 02:54 - 18

how do i get cities of ascalon quest?
which quests do i hav to do first?

grim ciesta in GF? whats GF, granite forge?

Caelus The Fallen

Krytan Explorer

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Glasgow

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E/Mo

26 Sep 2005 at 07:41 - 19

GF = Grenth's Footprint

EF2NYD

Wilds Pathfinder

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26 Sep 2005 at 12:33 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fantus

Lucky you!

When the 55 monk was invented, I already had done that quest will 3 of my 4 chars and sold the bloody item to the trader because it appeared worthless (which it is to anyone except a 55 monk).

Or monk secondaries.

viet

Frost Gate Guardian

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cali, usa

The Samurai Demons

Mo/W

26 Sep 2005 at 23:55 - 21

is there a bug with the cities of ascalon quest.

i did everythin & in surmia but cant find the historical monument...

& i noticed the rewards didn't say anything about -20health...

jus the focus items...

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

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The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

27 Sep 2005 at 13:37 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by viet

i did everythin & in surmia but cant find the historical monument...

It's in the Surmia mission itself. It's right near the end...next to the entrance to the field where all the Charr are.

viet

Frost Gate Guardian

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cali, usa

The Samurai Demons

Mo/W

27 Sep 2005 at 23:46 - 23

the green dot is bugged then
thanks

DevilStick

Frost Gate Guardian

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East Coast US

28 Sep 2005 at 13:39 - 24

Conceptually, how does the 55 smite monk work? I picked up the item last night, and it doesn't on its face look like a monk item. I mean, one of the energy modifiers is tied to Blood Magic skill.

sleazeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

good from far, far from good

Gaming Continuum

Mo/Me

28 Sep 2005 at 13:48 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevilStick

Conceptually, how does the 55 smite monk work? I picked up the item last night, and it doesn't on its face look like a monk item. I mean, one of the energy modifiers is tied to Blood Magic skill.

Conceptually, health is reduced through the use of a combination of 5 superior runes and negative health items, so that when skills are used that limit damage based on a percentage of health, the resulting damage is minimal and easily mitigated. Damage to enemies is done by way of smiting skills.

DevilStick

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

East Coast US

28 Sep 2005 at 14:21 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleazeh

Conceptually, health is reduced through the use of a combination of 5 superior runes and negative health items, so that when skills are used that limit damage based on a percentage of health, the resulting damage is minimal and easily mitigated. Damage to enemies is done by way of smiting skills.

Ah... I figured it had something to do with percentage of health. Thanks for the explanation.