Tombs: Attack of the Idiots

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

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Has anyone noticed the excelerated ammount of people who don't know how to play their builds lately, in tombs? As if it weren't hard enough to find a group, now everyone is randomly selecting people, even for seemingly good LOOKING groups. I've been playing since 10am EST and have yet to find a group that has gotten past the first PvP battle. And now all the good groups are running Rank checks becuase they seem to think that high rankers haven't been HoH leached by their guild or the IWAY build >.> (You couldn't guess how many Rank 6+ IWAY warriors there are)

Most newer player's sole priority is to gain "Faction" to unlock "Uberitems" or something, so they think they will get faction faster if they leave to the Tombs Battles without planning their group/build.

It's like everyone's a vampire and you don't know it untill they bite/ start the time on you! I had one E/mo smiter that decided to heal with Healing Breeze. Monks that couldn't stand in the Wards. Korean Tank Warriors that don't speak English at all. Mending Tanks. IWAY warriors. Lions, Tigers, Bears! OH MY!

Ollj

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

i just laught about anyone who cares for my rank.

My-Excuse

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/Mo

I was in a PUG a few nights ago and we won a few battles. I just chalk it up to luck but still, a game is meant for fun. Last night i spent around 30 minutes trying to get a group together and figure out a proper strategy and we still lost against some damn korean smite team.

morale of the story: if you're going FTW, make a well built team and spend your time making sure everyone understands whats up, but if you're going just for a faction/fame boost, don't waste the time.

White Designs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Illinois

None

It's really rather simple.

If you expect to win, don't play in PUG's.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
Has anyone noticed the excelerated ammount of people who don't know how to play their builds lately, in tombs?

the word "lately" is very misused in that sentence of yours there

there has always been masses of people who do not know how to play their builds in Tombs.

Sanji

Sanji

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

What White Designs says, your best chance of success in Hall of Heroes rides on you playing with people you know and trust. Definately if you want to be creative or at least do not want to be expected to do flavor of the month build, Pick up Groups have nothing for you.

Any victory you will get in a Pick up Group will either be incredibly dumb luck or the result of milking a build that people have trouble countering for all it's worth.

One and Two

One and Two

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Communication wins. Except for Edge bombs. Then run your a** off! =)

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
Tombs: Attack of the Idiots
For some reason, I thought you were referring to this:



But after reading I guess not.


Anyhow, yeah, PUGs are bad. PUGs simply aren't coordinated enough, for one thing. Guilds and friends FTW!

User Name

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanji
What White Designs says, your best chance of success in Hall of Heroes rides on you playing with people you know and trust. Definately if you want to be creative or at least do not want to be expected to do flavor of the month build, Pick up Groups have nothing for you.

Any victory you will get in a Pick up Group will either be incredibly dumb luck or the result of milking a build that people have trouble countering for all it's worth.

Winning the first round 90% of the time should be incredibly easy even with a pug. Chances are you're going up against another pug attempting to run the FOTM build....generally with little success.

Zhou Feng

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

CATS

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by User Name
Winning the first round 90% of the time should be incredibly easy even with a pug. Chances are you're going up against another pug attempting to run the FOTM build....generally with little success.
Yep and its so hilarious it makes me want to go into Tombs again. I might get annoyed at a few PUGs but I also have fun in them too. As for people asking my Rank, I just say I dont have enough rank yet because Im from Arenas and you only get faction there, BUT since Im a healer they seem to let the rank thing slide.

Rank right now with IWAY is really worthless because IWAY can farm rank rather quickly.

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Near Your House

I Used To Own [ IUTO ]

Rank proves nothing..... i mean cmon lol
although having the emote looks cool
start ur own group my guildy started his own pug and u see him winning hoh
Dom Quebec Supastar.... i doubted him at firrst but then he started his own pug and u see him winnning quite a few

KallDrexx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Obsidian Kings

From my experience if you get PUGs that use voice communication you have better luck of not running into many idiots. This doens't always apply but from my experience most idiots don't bother to use voice chat. With Voice chat teams you also have ti easier to figure out the build the PUG will be using, etc..

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhou Feng

Rank right now with IWAY is really worthless because IWAY can farm rank rather quickly.
no they can't. IWAY will get owned by any semi-decent team.

the only thing IWAY beats is newbies.

as soon as IWAY comes up vs. a non-newbie team, IWAY is toast and then it's right back to square one

of course IWAY is the fastest way to farm fame with a PUG, but "the fastest" does not equal "fast"

Schorny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
as soon as IWAY comes up vs. a non-newbie team, IWAY is toast and then it's right back to square one
Played against Microsoft Excel yet?

Calnaion Blackhawk

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

England , Wiltshire

[mB] Mental Block

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
For some reason, I thought you were referring to this:



But after reading I guess not.


Anyhow, yeah, PUGs are bad. PUGs simply aren't coordinated enough, for one thing. Guilds and friends FTW!
wow bet that wont happen for a while again....

Hanuman li Tosh

Hanuman li Tosh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

garden of the gods, CO

Over Powered

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by White Designs
It's really rather simple.

If you expect to win, don't play in PUG's.
ive won 3 times in pugs.

Hanuman li Tosh

Hanuman li Tosh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

garden of the gods, CO

Over Powered

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
Rank proves nothing..... i mean cmon lol
although having the emote looks cool
start ur own group my guildy started his own pug and u see him winning hoh
Dom Quebec Supastar.... i doubted him at firrst but then he started his own pug and u see him winnning quite a few
rank isnt the be all end all of GW, i agree 100%, but come on here. theres no way you can say you have no preference as to which player you would rather have on your team, a rank 0 or a tiger.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanuman li Tosh
rank isnt the be all end all of GW, i agree 100%, but come on here. theres no way you can say you have no preference as to which player you would rather have on your team, a rank 0 or a tiger.
I dont. I'd rather have a rank 0 who is a team player and plays for fun then an arrogant SOB who thinks he's something special because he has a certain rank and behaves like a SOB. The latter unfortunately happens too often for me to favor someone with rank over someone without.

knives

knives

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Me/

Lol, maybe its because the good players don't find PuG's in the american, european, etc districts.

Also I would advise adding some good tombs groups into your friends list. I have about 10 people that I have partied with (their guild etc) that I can occaisonally get a group with if I felt like doing tombs. So usually we can come up with atleast a group of 7 and just LFG another person. (We've also had our share of bad players, premades ftw?)

KallDrexx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Obsidian Kings

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
of course IWAY is the fastest way to farm fame with a PUG, but "the fastest" does not equal "fast"
It does for people who only play in PUGS. I've seen so many people talk about how they've joined random IWAY groups and got rank 6 in no time, with only winning the hall once but never holding. Furthermore, it is far easier and faster to put together an IWAY group then it is for a custom build, especilaly when talking about PUGs. Most IWAY matches I've been against have gone really fast too (usually them dying real fast but the one time they beat us they won fast) so it really is a fast way to gain fame.

Then you have people like me who never partakes in FOTM just so I can get into a PUG and I have 510 fame, yet most of hte builds I"ve been a part of require teamwork and skill (and usually invovle me with my guild).

In the time it takes me to get a decent team together with a decent build and play (with the limited time i have per day to play) I can gain much more fame with IWAY if I tried then how I normally play. I play to have fun though and IWAY isn't fun at all, and I really couln't give a crap if someone thought I'm a crappy player cause I"m only rank 4, cause I probably wouldn't want to play with them anyway if they have taht attitude.

Mystical

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Mississauga, Ontario

Inyurface Gaming [IYF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tijger
I dont. I'd rather have a rank 0 who is a team player and plays for fun then an arrogant SOB who thinks he's something special because he has a certain rank and behaves like a SOB. The latter unfortunately happens too often for me to favor someone with rank over someone without.
Thank you!

I do more GvG and Random Arena (testing builds, improving myself). When I do go to Tombs I've waited over an hour in American and International District 1. Sucks to be a lonly rank 1 Healer. With IWAY, there is no need for me and I refuse to give in to the FOTM.

My guild hasn't ventured into Tombs yet because we do more GvG, and I have only one other person on my Friends list that organizes Tombs groups. That rank 3 looks so far away.

Such a paradox; to get a group I need rank; to get rank I need a group.