[Video] Falre Will Avenge You (Really)

Brett Kuntz

Brett Kuntz

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

FLAREWAY - Fast Casting and Flare makes for an overpowered method of raking in the fame in tombs. Though this build requires a bit more practice then IWAY, you end up being able to defeat all the generic FotW builds in tombs...in under 2 minutes. Smite dead, IWAY dead, Rangers dead, Blood Necros dead:

Mirror - http://files.filefront.com/flarewaya.../fileinfo.html

Each build is different. Some have AOE's, some have strips, but all builds have Flare. The differences in the characters are there to handle each type of build you'll run into in tombs. Against IWAY, ball up and use Flare to just drop warriors. At some point rush in and massicre the pets in one go. Against blood necros or smite, use Met's to drop DPS characters so they can't harm you, and lots of Flare spam for hundreds of DPS. In effect, you create a lazer beam of Flares that will drop targets faster then you can switch targets.

*Use a download manager like DAP or I think Firefox has one built in.

Jczech

Jczech

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/

I can see it now... soon everyone will be playing this flare build (and sucking at it) and then the players will cry 'nerf flare!'... Haha, that would be the day.

But anyway, looked like quite a fun build The only question now, is what comes after the flare build?

Arathorn5000

Arathorn5000

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Xen of Onslaught Ladder [XoO]

lol, nice video. I actually tried to put together a stone daggers group like this, just with a few enchantments and ether renewal. But we just ended up using obsidian flame to kill people mostly. Gotta try this flare build

AeroLion

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Were you guys testing this out in the arenas two nights ago?

super dooper

super dooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

W/

ahahah, that was great.

Eonwe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

New Jersey

Idiot Savants

rofl, that's golden. Flare.

LuLu

Guild Wars Cutie

Join Date: May 2005

In a land far far away

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Mo/Me

Had a blast playing this build.

Esrever

Esrever

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Looking For Guild

If you were truly leet, you would do it with Ice Spear. Great video.

heist23

Journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/Mo

brilliant...that was hilarious. congrats.

glockjs

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

can't see the video cause im at work :/ but i think i know what build you're talking about(ele attune+fire attune=button mashing)......

gah, i guess you're gonna give a reason for people to actualy use ward against harm

Sassy James

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Innocent Bystanders[IB]

E/

Funny thing is, me and my guild tested this out in arenas 2 days ago using MoR with it too. Maybe thats who Aerolion is referring to.

AeroLion

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Group I saw was running 3 Me/Es spamming flare and a warrior. Not sure what the war was doing.

glockjs

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by AeroLion
Group I saw was running 3 Me/Es spamming flare and a warrior. Not sure what the war was doing.
frenzy+heal sig ftw rofl

glockjs

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

wow. this thread went to RED ENGINE yadda yadda real fast. might i suggest if you have a prob or a question towards one person a pm

this thread has nothing to do with g stats or any EULA rules. its a fast casting ele video thread

glockjs

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

YOU CAN'T CHEAT IN GW. give it a rest....you can do whatever you want on the client side, but the server side is going to be accurate to the game no matter what.

Dead Panda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

N/Me

The tutorials are for making speedhacks. 'hacks' which will make the game run faster or slower depending on what you set it at.


Too bad the server resets the client data if it ever seems out of place. It's simple really. Like if I edited my game to think I have 1 million plat, the server will still have my original data stored and just overwrite my 1 mil plat with what ever the server stored.

Or in this game, if I speed it up to make me move at 500 miles a second, the server will just snap me back in place.

Jeez, do you even know what your talking about?

coldslammer

coldslammer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

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W/Mo

Quote:
The tutorials are for making speedhacks. 'hacks' which will make the game run faster or slower depending on what you set it at.
rules are rules.

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YOU CAN'T CHEAT IN GW. give it a rest....you can do whatever you want on the client side, but the server side is going to be accurate to the game no matter what.
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Too bad the server resets the client data if it ever seems out of place. It's simple really. Like if I edited my game to think I have 1 million plat, the server will still have my original data stored and just overwrite my 1 mil plat with what ever the server stored.

Or in this game, if I speed it up to make me move at 500 miles a second, the server will just snap me back in place.

Jeez, do you even know what your talking about?
i know enough to know what is what.

for all we know, he is editing the packets[encrypted] which come in and out of GW, so dont say GW is impossible to hack.

as i said before, he probably knows what hes doing.

IxChel

IxChel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

http://sof-guild.com/

Servants of Fortuna

Mo/R

All of the game play for GW is server side; the client is mostly a dumb display client that shows where things are, etc. Sometimes the client is
even wrong or mis-informed (ever wonder why monsters tend to jump,
and when you go to kill them they arn't there?). The positions and actions
of avatars (your on-line characters) are all handled server side. At the best
he could make client-side macros or "auto-responders" that would help
him run a build better -- in any case, I'd hardly call that serious cheating.

glockjs

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

@coldslammer

wrong. again, the server tells the client whats right and wrong...it doesnt work the other way around. it doesnt matter what you send back to the server, it already knows what is right. and theres a very good reason everything is handled this way.

for him to cheat as you say...he would have to directly hack into the server...no offense kuntz, but i don't give you that much credit

edit: this is the last post im gonna make on this, just realized im adding to the spam

coldslammer

coldslammer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by glockjs
@coldslammer

wrong. again, the server tells the client whats right and wrong...it doesnt work the other way around. it doesnt matter what you send back to the server, it already knows what is right. and theres a very good reason everything is handled this way.

for him to cheat as you say...he would have to directly hack into the server...no offense kuntz, but i don't give you that much credit
so you believe the client tells the server nothing at all???
so you saying the client doesnt tell the server where you move?

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for him to cheat as you say...he would have to directly hack into the server...no offense kuntz, but i don't give you that much credit
this is what people said about 'pure' servers in many FPS titles.

Brett Kuntz

Brett Kuntz

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by coldslammer
if i recal, you are injecting .dll into the process of GW.exe or whatever which is a common hacking/cheating practise.
No, it's a common method of obtaining OS/Thread information in an optimized fashion.

And no, the client doesn't tell the server anything important other then mouse movements and keypresses (laymens terms). And even those are tested for accuracy.

If I wanted to hide how gstats works, or anything else, why would I make it all publically availble, help people through PM's/emails on how to do certain things, and never deny anything when asked by ArenaNET?

You can continue to make a beef to ArenaNET but they wont care. Those tut's have been there since Feb, and have already been 'reported' to ArenaNET by other idiots. If I cared I would just write a tutorial for a fictional game called Wuild Gars.

coldslammer

coldslammer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

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W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by kunt0r
If I wanted to hide how gstats works, or anything else, why would I make it all publically availble, help people through PM's/emails on how to do certain things, and never deny anything when asked by ArenaNET?

You can continue to make a beef to ArenaNET but they wont care. Those tut's have been there since Feb, and have already been 'reported' to ArenaNET by other idiots. If I cared I would just write a tutorial for a fictional game called Wuild Gars.
that doesn't convince me....

anyway i will re-'report' to support, giving this link etc.
like i said before, until i'm told otherwise from someone higher up(ie anet) i will back down.

still you are a hacker its in your nature to give yourself the upper hand.....

NoKey

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by coldslammer
rules are rules.
Rules are made to be broken

well no..
Why do you even care if he does?
and This is hardly even hurting anyone ingame

Hackers ARE Programers ;( not all of them are evil ya know
If you know how to program you know how to hack

quit thinking "hackers are EVIL must kill em all!"

wheel

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/report.php?p=516358

I'm going to do my own form of reporting since your posts have done nothing but flame kunt0r and derail the thread. I'd invite everyone else to do the same.

Ednemak

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

I'de invite you all to go lay down on a couch and have a drink and relax cause its just a game

coldslammer

coldslammer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Why do you even care if he does?
and This is hardly even hurting anyone ingame
Well it's unfair for everyone else if hes hacking the mechanics of the game for his personal gain.

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I'm going to do my own form of reporting since your posts have done nothing but flame kunt0r and derail the thread. I'd invite everyone else to do the same.
these are accusations wheel, serious ones, that need to be addressed by higher authority.

derail this thread, hrmmm.... mabye, but he did post a link to his hacking site. so i guess its relevent.

NoKey

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ednemak
I'de invite you all to go lay down on a couch and have a drink and relax cause its just a game
Agreed ;o

coldslammer

coldslammer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

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I'de invite you all to go lay down on a couch and have a drink and relax cause its just a game
i'ld rather play guildwars without the fear of someone screwing me.

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

I'd love to know how to get the Unreal Tournament voiceover!
Great video!!

Elythor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Elysium Protectorate [EP]

Ward against Harm FTW!! :P

Brett Kuntz

Brett Kuntz

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions
I'd love to know how to get the Unreal Tournament voiceover!
Great video!!
http://www.0kuntz.com/gstats/

KuTeBaka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by coldslammer
Well it's unfair for everyone else if hes hacking the mechanics of the game for his personal gain.
uhh how is he personally gaining?

NoKey

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by KuTeBaka
uhh how is he personally gaining?
he isnt ;( coldslammer thinks all Hackers are bad if he thinks that way and programers are hackers so his saying Anet are bad people?!

Kriegar

Cowbell Boy

Join Date: Apr 2005

Great Lakes, IL

Treacherous Empire

Jesus Christ, you could not possibly be more dense. Yes, live in fear of Kuntor hax0ring your face, idiot.

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

Is there even a point of responding to Coldslammer? Hes vengeful Jobsworth incarnate

ToMTeMoR

ToMTeMoR

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Sweden Elite

W/N

rofl what a geek, he's prolly the kind of guy married to his GW

Eternal Equinox

Eternal Equinox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Manhattan, New York

lolumad

E/A

Reading this thread killed a nice amount of my brain cells. Excellent work guys.

stelliosm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

ye wot a geek.
me and my guild wars r just friends with benefits