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I used to like coming on this forum for infos/discussions... Not anymore now.
[VIDEO] 10 Hp Elmo, or the 5400 XP/Min build :D
GuildWarsPlayer
Silmor
So within a short amount of time you level, which ruins the entire setup you're using by launching you into mediocrity following everyone and their uncle using this setup at level 20. I don't see the point, the 'rofl low health protective spirit' thing is pretty stale by now.
GuildWarsPlayer
First of all, i was looking for the first flaming/insulting posts to come... GJ you're the winner. Can't you people post something whithout name calling or insults in it ???
- The point actually is to get level fast to reach Level 20 or around, this can be achieved fast and with no expensive runes. With 3 chars already ascended, i don't want to spend my whole time doing unecessary missions/bonus/quests to reach level 20 fast.
- Just look at the first point, I stated it's nothing new around... If you don't stand such builds then go on some other topic as advised. I created the vid for people who want to see it, not to be flamed by every anti-smite build player around.
- You don't know me, how i play, and what i intend, so drop the 'medicority' criticism. Yes i do copy other people builds if they work fine, that doesn't mean i don't come up with builds on my own too. Also if you could gain benefit from it by levelling at a rocket-speed rate, wouldn't you do it too ?
- The point actually is to get level fast to reach Level 20 or around, this can be achieved fast and with no expensive runes. With 3 chars already ascended, i don't want to spend my whole time doing unecessary missions/bonus/quests to reach level 20 fast.
- Just look at the first point, I stated it's nothing new around... If you don't stand such builds then go on some other topic as advised. I created the vid for people who want to see it, not to be flamed by every anti-smite build player around.
- You don't know me, how i play, and what i intend, so drop the 'medicority' criticism. Yes i do copy other people builds if they work fine, that doesn't mean i don't come up with builds on my own too. Also if you could gain benefit from it by levelling at a rocket-speed rate, wouldn't you do it too ?
snepp
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First of all, i was looking for the first flaming/insulting posts to come... GJ you're the winner. Can't you people post something whithout name calling or insults in it ???
Just ignore him/her, it's impossible to avoid trolls entirely, even when you provide a disclaimer at the start of the post.
Silmor
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Yes i do copy other people builds if they work fine, that doesn't mean i don't come up with builds on my own too.
If you experiment with your own builds, why not showcase some of the results of that instead? Even if it doesn't compare to the effectiveness of a low-hp protective spirit build, it can at least provide people with new build ideas or insight into skill combinations and deployment, in other words actually have value; I don't see the point of claiming you've got a 5400 XP/minute build only to reveal the build isn't yours, isn't original and on top of that requires you to be level 14, which turns the promise of a high exp/minute build entirely void considering the very act of playing it will work against its premise.
Either people play normally and get to level 20 somewhere between Maguuma Stade and Lion's Arch, they're rushed straight to Droknar where they end up as level 2 or 3, or they're rushed to the Crystal Desert for ascension where they end up at a similarly low level, still unable to deal with this kind of farming, and even for those rushed, the majority of their career is going to consist of level 20+ skill point farming to make up for the skill quests they missed, which makes the level 14-20 trajectory pretty negligable - there's a pretty good chance you're the only level 14 E/Mo in the entire game who was rushed to the desert and in need of powerlevelling.
Either people play normally and get to level 20 somewhere between Maguuma Stade and Lion's Arch, they're rushed straight to Droknar where they end up as level 2 or 3, or they're rushed to the Crystal Desert for ascension where they end up at a similarly low level, still unable to deal with this kind of farming, and even for those rushed, the majority of their career is going to consist of level 20+ skill point farming to make up for the skill quests they missed, which makes the level 14-20 trajectory pretty negligable - there's a pretty good chance you're the only level 14 E/Mo in the entire game who was rushed to the desert and in need of powerlevelling.
Volarian
Where I agree with Oscar the Grouch aka Silmor, in that if you have builds of your own that you've come up with it would be more condusive to the community aspect of these forums to post info on those rather than what you did................I don't agree with his posture in expressing it.
He and all the other "holier than thou" trolls should just stfu if/when they read something that to THEM isn't original or to THEM doesn't make sense. It's also very ironic that he clearly points out the anti-logic of this build and how being lvl 13-14ish at the start contradicts the purpose of 5400exp/min because you'd soon be higher level and earning less exp/min.............isn't that the same thing as the typical FLAMING which he just did?
You're basic point was "whats the point", I could say the same for the time & effort you put into downing GuildWarsPlayer just because what he shared...YOU...didn't like.
F**King sad
He and all the other "holier than thou" trolls should just stfu if/when they read something that to THEM isn't original or to THEM doesn't make sense. It's also very ironic that he clearly points out the anti-logic of this build and how being lvl 13-14ish at the start contradicts the purpose of 5400exp/min because you'd soon be higher level and earning less exp/min.............isn't that the same thing as the typical FLAMING which he just did?
You're basic point was "whats the point", I could say the same for the time & effort you put into downing GuildWarsPlayer just because what he shared...YOU...didn't like.
F**King sad
Silmor
There's already low-health farming videos available on this forum, so it's not a matter of whether or not they're original/sensible to me, it's a matter of whether they're original/sensible to the forum. The point of my post was to rudely discourage people to showcase imitation of others, in the hope that next time someone thinks about showcasing something, he'll try to actually showcase something that adds to this forum.
How is pointing a self-contradiction in nature of a demonstrated build in any way related to flaming? How is your putting down of me different from me putting down GuildWarsPlayer, aren't you just as eager to pose as 'holier than thou'? Where is your comment on the actual video, if you're so hot on making a relevant point?
How is pointing a self-contradiction in nature of a demonstrated build in any way related to flaming? How is your putting down of me different from me putting down GuildWarsPlayer, aren't you just as eager to pose as 'holier than thou'? Where is your comment on the actual video, if you're so hot on making a relevant point?
TaG Eledhel
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There's already low-health farming videos available on this forum, so it's not a matter of whether or not they're original/sensible to me, it's a matter of whether they're original/sensible to the forum. The point of my post was to rudely discourage people to showcase imitation of others, in the hope that next time someone thinks about showcasing something, he'll try to actually showcase something that adds to this forum.
How is pointing a self-contradiction in nature of a demonstrated build in any way related to flaming? How is your putting down of me different from me putting down GuildWarsPlayer, aren't you just as eager to pose as 'holier than thou'? Where is your comment on the actual video, if you're so hot on making a relevant point? hate to intefere but just one thing..you spout on about what people should add to this forum thats essentially new, positive and worthwhile.as you point out something to showcase..well MAYBE you could drop the crap and the flaming and TRY adding something worthwhile to this forum yourself. i see so many people on here sharing there thoughts, views, ideas or seeking advice on builds and i would say that almsot 100% of the posts has at least 1 stupid moronic unintelligent brainless twat like yourself that just sits there and slags off other people..well IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT PEOPLE POST ON THIS FORUM PISS OFF, because flamers and stupid little twats like yourself with nothing good to say arent wanted here.
GWP dont let assholes like that twat get the better of ya dude its people like him that ruin places like this, he probably hasnt even got out of pre searing yet thinking thats the whole game :P
How is pointing a self-contradiction in nature of a demonstrated build in any way related to flaming? How is your putting down of me different from me putting down GuildWarsPlayer, aren't you just as eager to pose as 'holier than thou'? Where is your comment on the actual video, if you're so hot on making a relevant point? hate to intefere but just one thing..you spout on about what people should add to this forum thats essentially new, positive and worthwhile.as you point out something to showcase..well MAYBE you could drop the crap and the flaming and TRY adding something worthwhile to this forum yourself. i see so many people on here sharing there thoughts, views, ideas or seeking advice on builds and i would say that almsot 100% of the posts has at least 1 stupid moronic unintelligent brainless twat like yourself that just sits there and slags off other people..well IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT PEOPLE POST ON THIS FORUM PISS OFF, because flamers and stupid little twats like yourself with nothing good to say arent wanted here.
GWP dont let assholes like that twat get the better of ya dude its people like him that ruin places like this, he probably hasnt even got out of pre searing yet thinking thats the whole game :P
User Name
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Originally Posted by TaG Eledhel
hate to intefere but just one thing..you spout on about what people should add to this forum thats essentially new, positive and worthwhile.as you point out something to showcase..well MAYBE you could drop the crap and the flaming and TRY adding something worthwhile to this forum yourself. i see so many people on here sharing there thoughts, views, ideas or seeking advice on builds and i would say that almsot 100% of the posts has at least 1 stupid moronic unintelligent brainless twat like yourself that just sits there and slags off other people..well IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT PEOPLE POST ON THIS FORUM PISS OFF, because flamers and stupid little twats like yourself with nothing good to say arent wanted here.
GWP dont let assholes like that twat get the better of ya dude its people like him that ruin places like this, he probably hasnt even got out of pre searing yet thinking thats the whole game :P
you just commited the ultimate GWGuru no-no...you insulted a member of iQ...run for it dude you're about to get the ban stick.
GWP dont let assholes like that twat get the better of ya dude its people like him that ruin places like this, he probably hasnt even got out of pre searing yet thinking thats the whole game :P
you just commited the ultimate GWGuru no-no...you insulted a member of iQ...run for it dude you're about to get the ban stick.
Arathorn5000
Wow, this topic attracted some real winners. 
You people are so quick to jump on Silmor for "flaming" or some other BS, when he's the one keeping a level head and trying to keep a higher level of quality for this forum.
You people are so quick to jump on Silmor for "flaming" or some other BS, when he's the one keeping a level head and trying to keep a higher level of quality for this forum.
Wizards and Demons
So many times when I come to read on something new or different that a player has tried and shares his build and what he does with it that is even a little out of the ordinary, they get a few people immediately going " I don't see why you did this, when _____ build is already here, does the same thing, and does it faster."
So when Silmor or somebody says to post something original or different, somebody else will tell them that something original or different isn't as good as what has been tested and proven.
Forum trolls are sad, miserable people I imagine.
I'm sad though that I didn't get to see the video or the post from GWP because he has taken the post down from people looking, reading, and immediately responding with some form of idiocy.
If you don't have something decent to say, don't say it, please. I don't even care if you don't like his build, state why even, maybe TEST his build, if you can.
Just no room for creativity around here, somedays.
Edit: And for the record, I don't dislike any of the posters here, I just get frustrated. Constructive criticism, even if in small doses, goes a long way.
So when Silmor or somebody says to post something original or different, somebody else will tell them that something original or different isn't as good as what has been tested and proven.
Forum trolls are sad, miserable people I imagine.
I'm sad though that I didn't get to see the video or the post from GWP because he has taken the post down from people looking, reading, and immediately responding with some form of idiocy.
If you don't have something decent to say, don't say it, please. I don't even care if you don't like his build, state why even, maybe TEST his build, if you can.
Just no room for creativity around here, somedays.
Edit: And for the record, I don't dislike any of the posters here, I just get frustrated. Constructive criticism, even if in small doses, goes a long way.
Hanuman li Tosh
lol posted a lame ass exploit and expected not to get flamed... quick somebody flame me back for flaming him before the cycle ends and we all wind up co-existing peacefully!
Silmor
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Just no room for creativity around here, somedays.
I love creativity. My constructive criticism was for him to actually use his, instead of taking effort to record a concept proven to death, in a setup which very few people will ever have a use for and is pretty much old trash with a fresh ribbon around it. The creativity involved was selecting a nice song to go along with the video.
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I agree, that's why I take time to write coherent posts instead of emotion-driven rants. Glad to hear you're taking me seriously.|
Originally Posted by User Name
you just commited the ultimate GWGuru no-no...you insulted a member of iQ...run for it dude you're about to get the ban stick.
I'm not a member of iQ, and my track record of playing with iQ members consists of one Random Arena round where by complete coincidence I landed in a team with Shinsei. I see iQ members get insulted on these forums day by day, and yet none of the people insulting them end up banned, so I'm quite curious where you get the idea that it's somehow a bannable offense on here. Don't get me wrong, I really wish it was, they're among the few on this forum who consistently make sure they know their stuff before making claims, having spent hours and hours researching details of this game nobody else would bother with, and the constant insults -to them- despite them being right seem to be producing results with less and less of them bothering with these forums.
User Name
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I'm not a member of iQ, and my track record of playing with iQ members consists of one Random Arena round where by complete coincidence I landed in a team with Shinsei. I see iQ members get insulted on these forums day by day, and yet none of the people insulting them end up banned, so I'm quite curious where you get the idea that it's somehow a bannable offense on here. Don't get me wrong, I really wish it was, they're among the few on this forum who consistently make sure they know their stuff before making claims, having spent hours and hours researching details of this game nobody else would bother with, and the constant insults -to them- despite them being right seem to be producing results with less and less of them bothering with these forums.
my apologies..I was under the impression that you were.
in any event...you could control yourself with more maturity. You are correct in that we don't need to be flooded with videos of the same builds over and over again. But nobody is going to take you seriously if you handle that argument like an angry 12 year old.
smurfhunter
silmor, you made your point in the first thread. the rest is ego. you basically killed someones post, and thats not very cool. >.<
maybe its old news to you, and maybe its old news to alot of people here, it sure as hell aint old news to the op and alot of other people. so make your criticism and stop babysitting this place. ah well too late now...
Silmor
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Originally Posted by smurfhunter
silmor, you made your point in the first thread. the rest is ego. you basically killed someones post, and thats not very cool. >.<
maybe its old news to you, and maybe its old news to alot of people here, it sure as hell aint old news to the op and alot of other people. so make your criticism and stop babysitting this place. ah well too late now... If it's a bad post to begin with, what's wrong with saying so? How is defending my position when accused 'ego'? It was old news to the OP, he even said so, and it was old news to the Guild Wars community over a month ago. Sure, new players join Guild Wars every day. Does that mean we should make videos of how to finish the Northern Wall mission as well? Volarian
1.Considering the VASTNESS of these forums and my own difficulty with "searching" and subsequent "finding" of exactly what I am looking for.......I wouldn't fault anyone for posting a video/commentary/suggestion of something that's already been posted.
2. I tried downloading the video but it was taking FAAAR too long and I was doing it at work on a T1 direction connection, so I never viewed it. 3. I'm not intereted in solo/farming builds simply because I enjoy the game with other people.....not just lil ole me. 4. The difference between me downing you and you downing GuildWarsPlayer - true both were Flames - yours of him was undeserved completely. Mine of you or any other "holier than thou", is always deserved.<--As mentioned above, just because it may have been brought up before doesn't mean that person knows that or had the time to search thru the endless amount of threads on these forums so for all YOU know...to him it was an original build idea....he may not have found something identical to what he offered. And even if he did "copy", having it as a fresh topic helps those new and old to the forums so they don't have to DIG into every last thread that may hit on a search for "e/mo farming" etc. Far to many threads with the words Monk or farming in them that don't even pertain to build ideas.....just people complaining about them......GuildWarsPlayer.....continue to post your ideas and don't bother worrying about the Nay-Sayers.....let me do that ;-)
Da Cebuano
What an asshat, if you notice, theres quite a lack of new things to discuss, so if you simply dind't wanna check out this "Old content" WTF did you come here, read and click reply? Honestly people who try to be all authoratative need to get a serious grip on themselves, instead of complaining and messing up his topic, go post something new and undiscussed instead of being pointless yourself.
smurfhunter
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Quote: Originally Posted by Silmor How is defending my position when accused 'ego'? you posted 5 times on this board. you could have posted once. defending a wrong position is incredibly dumb, and shows your only true goal here is to save whats left of your reputation.
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Originally Posted by Silmor
It was old news to the OP, he even said so, and it was old news to the Guild Wars community over a month ago. Sure, new players join Guild Wars every day. Does that mean we should make videos of how to finish the Northern Wall mission as well?
did you say "WE" were making new videos? you have one of your own? oh please share it then. but as far as i know, you didnt do shit but type. the op went through the trouble of making a video he thought would be interesting, and as a result he gets flamed by some jackass nerd who thinks hes superior to everyone just because he "plays with people from iQ". if you had any decency you wouldnt have posted more than twice.
/ignore @ silmor
Silmor
So I can't say a post is bad, but you can say my opinion is wrong? Your conclusion > my conclusion? Looks like we're on the same wavelength here. If I say a post is bad, that's my opinion, and forming an opinion certainly is an inborn power, yes. People challenge my posts with insults, I react to their insults. I don't consider my opinion wrong, or I wouldn't be defending it.
If you had any reading comprehension whatsoever, you'd have learned that iQ hasn't got anything to do with this. It's really very simple, I don't play with them, and I never claimed to, you're the one who drops them into this discussion for goodness knows what reason. I landed in a random team with one of their members, we lost the fight, that was that. Seriously, dislike me all you want, but don't go dragging in random guilds. Kaor
i can see the video ? msg me plz on my private box
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What's wrong with guy trying to share his ideas/thoughts?
glockjs
i wouldnt mind seeing the video either...c'mon repost it, don't let the evil trolls get to you man!
Arathorn5000
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you posted 5 times on this board. you could have posted once. defending a wrong position is incredibly dumb, and shows your only true goal here is to save whats left of your reputation. did you say "WE" were making new videos? you have one of your own? oh please share it then. but as far as i know, you didnt do shit but type. the op went through the trouble of making a video he thought would be interesting, and as a result he gets flamed by some jackass nerd who thinks hes superior to everyone just because he "plays with people from iQ". if you had any decency you wouldnt have posted more than twice. /ignore @ silmor Seriously, you're a dumbass if you can't see Silmor's point. Your replies have been absolutely pointless, where at least Silmor expressed an opinion on the topic and backed it up with logical reasoning. And you're going to sit here flaming him, calling him a nerd, putting up false arguments. You're simply jumping on the bandwagon (no less than 5 people already jumped on Silmor before you decided to add your useless 2 cents) and flaming him for the sake of flaming. I also can't believe you guys are supporting the OP. He came here looking for "infos/discussions", got a negative reply from (I'm assuming) an experienced player and member of the forums, threw a tizzy fit, and edited his post. If he was more mature, he would ask Silmor why his video was bad or "stale", maybe ask for links to similar videos....you know, have a discussion. entropy
I totally agree. The fact is that when people say that X skill can be replaced with this X skill for the most part they are just trying to help them. So whats wrong with posting Smurfhunter. When you actually take the time to read silmor's post it is so much smooth and logical than the people attacking Silmor. Defending yourself is what you Should do. God so many people come to this forum post something and then after the first flame BAM get all defenisive and yell at the guy for flaming. You know what We might as well just say "GJ" in every post no matter if its old/stale/moronic. This is BUILD DISCUSSION. If you had posted this in Riverside in or something else you might not have got flamed. Discussing a build requires Constructive criticism .(PERIOD)
Deathlord
This topic not only fails to fufill its original purpose, but it's also turned into a pool of flames. I'm not an admin so theres no point whatsoever for me to make this post (Then again, i was bit by a troll today... are they contagious?). Anyway, from what i've read, Silmor didn't exactly flame GWP, but didn't post a constructive comment either. It was basically a "You idiot, everyone knows that, and I'm an anti-rush supporter, you suck.". Personally i've done it a few times before, and I'm trying to do it less now because it really doesn't have ANY constructive purpose at all. Also, lets try to remember that this is a build discussion forum, not a "Let me explain my first post to you so you look like a retard, then you can do it to me and we can spend some time having a pointless conversation with fancy words" forum. If your post isn't atleast PARTIALLY directed to improve or to go towards appreciation of the post then you should really just back out while your ahead.
Oh yeah, speaking of which, the existence of my post probably contradicts what i've been typing for the past minute or so. For the record, I like jumping on burning cars about to drive off a cliff... it's a hobby. UberRusty
Why isn't this closed yet?
smurfhunter
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Seriously, you're a dumbass if you can't see Silmor's point. Your replies have been absolutely pointless, where at least Silmor expressed an opinion on the topic and backed it up with logical reasoning. And you're going to sit here flaming him, calling him a nerd, putting up false arguments. You're simply jumping on the bandwagon (no less than 5 people already jumped on Silmor before you decided to add your useless 2 cents) and flaming him for the sake of flaming. I also can't believe you guys are supporting the OP. He came here looking for "infos/discussions", got a negative reply from (I'm assuming) an experienced player and member of the forums, threw a tizzy fit, and edited his post. If he was more mature, he would ask Silmor why his video was bad or "stale", maybe ask for links to similar videos....you know, have a discussion. |
here look at this:
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So within a short amount of time you level, which ruins the entire setup you're using by launching you into mediocrity following everyone and their uncle using this setup at level 20. I don't see the point, the 'rofl low health protective spirit' thing is pretty stale by now.
not even does this barely make sense, its a retarded post that seriously lowers the quality of a forum. this is logical? can i have some of what youre smoking? seriously i have zero (0) respect for garbage like that, and the fact that silmor is sitting here all defensive like some kind of special ed doesnt help.
op came for a discussion, what he got was a stoned monkey writing all kinds of crap. end of story for me. get dragged down with him if you want GuildWarsPlayer
Ok this thread needs to be closed, and actually it's the last post i'll do on GWGuru because i found another with better contents and better discussions.
Silmor completely lost the info that i was trying to build up in here... It's not using an overseen type of build, it's showing two things : 1 - you can use it at around level 12-13 (i did it since level 13). Don't u undesrtand that at such level you have around 75 stats points to distribute and not 200 ? This means that with a few points ditributed, a few skilled earned you can actually level up VERY fast, wich was the point of the vid. 2 - Some people want to level as fast as possible their new caracter, i am one of those. Actually i started it at level 13 and i am now level 19 within LESS THAN ONE HOUR. True when you advance in levels you don't get 600 XP like at level 14, but for your knowledge you still net 400+ XP per kill at level 18. Do the maths... It's 3600 XP (average of 9 minotaurs) minimum until you reach level 19. A minimum of 3600 XP in 1 minute i've never seen before and thought it might have interested people in here. This could have been discussed, but as i compare here and other forums, discussion is hardly possible in here. No need to reply to this as i'll delete my account straight away... Farewell UberRusty
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Ok this thread needs to be closed, and actually it's the last post i'll do on GWGuru because i found another with better contents and better discussions.
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Why isn't this closed yet?
smurfhunter
rusty you just love quoting yourself
UberRusty
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rusty you just love quoting yourself
I suffer from the SQS, Self quotation disease. =Omg
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