Things to do with Faction

Asplode

Asplode

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Chicago, IL

Rebel Rising [rawr]

I think now that ANet made pvpx faction permanent, more and more people are getting UAS very easily and quickly, and thus having no use for faction.

Therefore, I think it'd be a nice feature if ANet would give us new things to do with our capped faction, which frustratingly sits at 10,000, unmoving. >_<

Let's hear some creative ideas >.>

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

Convert it into gold. PvE players have no use for faction, converting it into gold would give them a reason to PvP

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

Spend it (maybe in 1k intervals) on uniquely cusomizable character/weapon/armor options.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
Convert it into gold. PvE players have no use for faction, converting it into gold would give them a reason to PvP
Wrong, I'm using my Faction points to unlock hard to get skills and items upgrades.

Besides Fraction to Gold sounds pointless... I can farm 10K in two hours max, 10,000 Faction takes a bit more time and effort.

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

By PvE I mean people who have no PvP characters..

User Name

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

there are better ways to do rune/item unlocks than faction....other than skill unlocks faction is useless.

corax5

corax5

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Ye olde England.

I think any kind of PvE use for faction would be good, its a shame when I see that I have so much faction but that it's completly worthless as I don't have any PvP characters. Mabey something not to valuable such as dye or minor runes.

Silmor

Silmor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

I don't really see the problem with faction not doing anything for fully unlocked accounts. It was introduced for people to have an alternative way to unlock things, and unless you're unlocking just for the sake of unlocking (in which case PvE might be more up your alley), you have a purpose for the skills, runes and upgrades you unlocked: playing PvP without access limitations, and the enjoyment you get from that is the reward, not the faction that's now useless to you.

BunnyMaster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Holland

Army of Fairies

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Wrong, I'm using my Faction points to unlock hard to get skills and items upgrades.
Sigh. You're missing the point. The discussion is about ppl getting faction, who already have everything unlocked.

/signed 1k Faction = 100gold

Arcanis the Omnipotent

Arcanis the Omnipotent

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Nova Alliance

Me/

How about, after you have all the upgrades unlocked, you can use like 10K Faction to buy one.

That would increase the PVE interest in PVP.

Hanuman li Tosh

Hanuman li Tosh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

garden of the gods, CO

Over Powered

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asplode
I think now that ANet made pvpx faction permanent, more and more people are getting UAS very easily and quickly, and thus having no use for faction.

Therefore, I think it'd be a nice feature if ANet would give us new things to do with our capped faction, which frustratingly sits at 10,000, unmoving. >_<

Let's hear some creative ideas >.>
come on now, once you have UAS you dont need faction. faction was a bonus to begin with and now that you have received the bonus you want more.

ggnorekkthx.

suomi_6

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

still freelancer

E/Me

maybe some badges which would appear on your armor, or armor ornaments?

Rey Lentless

Rey Lentless

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Why should people be able to farm and save a ton of skill points to use when an expansion comes out, but people who pvp (which is more in the spirit of the game) should have a capped limit once they have everything?

If saving skill points is just fine to them, let use convert our faction into skill points.

I unlocked everything a month ago, in an environment much harder to do so. Now I should get nothing with faction being given out 10X as quickly?

That's crap.

It's not like we're going out of our way to 'farm' faction either, we're just doing the pvp. But if other people are getting something from it, so should we.

Third Quarter

Third Quarter

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Ectos And Shards [EnS]

I would gladly spend faction on guest/guild invites. Going to xunlai storage for money is annoying.

Also, I would be extremely happy if I could just give faction to other players.

My-Excuse

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/Mo

turning faction into money would be useless as gaining faction takes a lot more time than gaining money via PVE.

[wishful thinking]
i would love to see ANet get creative and make a lottery type thing for faction. 500-1k faction to enter the lottery, if you win you get some kind of item. it could be totally automated as well. gold, item or rune reward (considerable ammount that is).
[/wishful thinking]

GraFFix

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Eternal Resurrection

Ive recently came accross this same problem..I dont have any PvP characters..well I do but her name is storage chick and well you get the point of that. anyways..I have 3 other PvE characters one of which I play tombs with alot. the other 2 arent ready yet...my main PvP character is my necro and I have every skill unlocked and all but 2 elites captured and with my secondary as monk I have all the skills I need to support myself during a fight. So then what do I do with my faction? I hate having it sit there at 10k and miss out on all the other faction im gaining so I just randomly unlock runes and weapon upgrades. Ill build my faction up to 10k then go on a unlocking spree then just build up another 10k. its kind of a waste because i have no idea what kind of character I might want to make down the road...but I do think it wil help me down the road if I ever do decide to make a PvP character.

I do kind of wish I could unlock stuff for my PvE character..that would make things alot easier.

User Name

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

since when was PvP all about Faction?

My-Excuse

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by User Name
since when was PvP all about Faction?
its not, just now that everyone and their uncle can get 1-10k faction VERY easily, there seems like there should be more we can do with it than just unlock PVP only things. especially if people use their PVE for PVP. theres nothing they can do with faction.

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

What about PVP-specific dye? I'd be content with being able to use mixed dye on my pvp character :P

Sofonisba

Sofonisba

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tucson, AZ

The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcanis the Omnipotent
How about, after you have all the upgrades unlocked, you can use like 10K Faction to buy one.

That would increase the PVE interest in PVP.
I still haven't unlocked everything on either account, so I am not in the position where I have all this faction and nothing to spend it on.

I like your idea. I like it a lot.

It would ONLY be for those who have unlocked everything they possibly can. Like a special edition piece (is that right?), it cannot be sold or traded or upgraded other than what you have unlocked for it with your leftover faction.

I can't tell you how many times I've heard the question asked, "What does faction do?" and when the folks hear that it is for PvP-only characters, they are very disappointed. I wonder how many are turned off when they find that out?

I'm not whining about anything either way - makes no difference to me just yet. BUT I am upset about the dearth of players in the lower levels. If everyone knew about the new uses for faction, more people would PvP and the game would grow stronger IMHO.

Naprius

Naprius

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

mtricht

Limburgse Jagers

W/Mo

1k faction = 1k gold sounds better

/signed

One and Two

One and Two

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by My-Excuse
i would love to see ANet get creative and make a lottery type thing for faction. 500-1k faction to enter the lottery, if you win you get some kind of item. it could be totally automated as well. gold, item or rune reward (considerable ammount that is).
I will assume you do not PVP at all. 500-1K faction is nothing. 1K faction is nothing. If you want a lottery that people will want to enter, they probably want gold items and superior runes...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasereth
What about PVP-specific dye? I'd be content with being able to use mixed dye on my pvp character :P
Interesting Idea

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

W/

/Signed for 1,000 factions to be redeemable into 1,000 gold
/Signed for 100 factions to be used as Guild Invite / Guild Guest Invite

Proposal:
Allow factions to be redeemable for PvP Items that are customized for the character who redeemed the item with factions. Items redeemed via factions like this cannot be sold for gold or be salvaged for materials, such factions redeemed items can only be used by the character who redeemed them.

Example:
John Thomas uses 2,000 factions to redeem a 10/10 Sundering Sword Weapon Upgrade.
This Weapon Upgrade can only be usable by John Thomas.
If John Thomas uses this Sword Weapon Upgrade on a sword that is yet to be customized for John Thomas, that sword will automatically be customized for John Thomas.
This Sword Weapon Ugrade cannot work on swords that are already customized by other characters other than John Thomas.

With this suggestion / proposal, perhaps make it such that 'rare' weapon upgrades are available?
My definition of 'rare' items:
Shields with non standard modifiers:
i.e:
20% +1 Tactics
20% +1 Strength

Weapon Upgrades +20% vs certain monsters
Staff Upgrades 20% +1 (Insert Skill Name Here)

With this proposal / suggestion, PvE only players who used up their 4 character slots could make put their factions to use.

/Signed for my own proposal / suggestion

Another Proposal / Suggestion:
Remove the 10,000 faction limit
-OR-
Allow players to use 10,000 factions to increase the faction limit of 10,000
For example:
Use 10,000 factions to increase the faction limit of 10,000 to 20,000
/Signed

Cheers

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rey Lentless
Why should people be able to farm and save a ton of skill points to use when an expansion comes out, but people who pvp (which is more in the spirit of the game) should have a capped limit once they have everything?

If saving skill points is just fine to them, let use convert our faction into skill points.

I unlocked everything a month ago, in an environment much harder to do so. Now I should get nothing with faction being given out 10X as quickly?

That's crap.

It's not like we're going out of our way to 'farm' faction either, we're just doing the pvp. But if other people are getting something from it, so should we.

Best argument for this suggestion.

If the future expansions are going to introduce new skills, then something has to be done about the faction limit for hardcore PvP players. I'm fairly confident I can get 1 skill point a lot faster than someone could get enough faction to unlock a new skill. Also considering that I can get 300% extra experience with a Scroll of Berserker's Insight, I'd like to see a PvPer keep pace with me in terms of unlocking skills. Let's ALSO take into consideration that I have the chance to unlock new mods for weapons and runes just by doing my normal farming routine.

Naprius

Naprius

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

mtricht

Limburgse Jagers

W/Mo

alright , if you've got enough faction, you get a nice pony. how about that?

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

this is funny , people complain they have so much faction , and no place to waste ...

dyes !!!! a dye trador in arenas , pvpers can waste their extra faction is something useless ... but at least looks cool.

One and Two

One and Two

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Actually, I think it would be awesome if I could buy a pony with my faction.

Naprius

Naprius

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

mtricht

Limburgse Jagers

W/Mo

10000 faction and you get a pony

BunnyMaster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Holland

Army of Fairies

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcanis the Omnipotent
How about, after you have all the upgrades unlocked, you can use like 10K Faction to buy one.
/signed

And if they implement ponies, I hope that we'll be able to ride on them
*starts selling Desert Ponyrides // 1hour 10k*

Naprius

Naprius

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

mtricht

Limburgse Jagers

W/Mo

i really wasn't that serious about the ponies

Ollj

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Faction for ale !!! (some ale you can not sell for money)

join the HoH Pub

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

some suggestions:
unlock pets? (only wolf available now)
unlock dyes & dyemixes

aside from that, I wouldn't know. maybe unlock some of the stricly better green items?

soma

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

would be nice to be able to get SOMETHING for faction once you've hit UAS.

gold, dyes, skill points to save up for the next expansion, just something.

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

100 k faction for greens
ales and dyes


poney /signed

some kind of transportation would be ultra cool , even if it costs 100 k gold , 200% moving speed , poney health 500 , gets dp , and need a skill to use him , when you go in , if you have that skill , you will only be able to move in poney , only if poney dies , you go to floor , all professions can have 1

Naprius

Naprius

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

mtricht

Limburgse Jagers

W/Mo

omg. what have i done..

BunnyMaster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Holland

Army of Fairies

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by neoteo
100 k faction for greens
ales and dyes


poney /signed

some kind of transportation would be ultra cool , even if it costs 100 k gold , 200% moving speed , poney health 500 , gets dp , and need a skill to use him , when you go in , if you have that skill , you will only be able to move in poney , only if poney dies , you go to floor , all professions can have 1
/signed for greens/ales. There should be a sizeable amount of faction, not just 1k.


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Ride my Pony - Enchantment Spell
For 1-3 minutes you are able to ride your Pony. When Ride my Pony ends, your Pony disappears and you suffer from Discomfort for 2 seconds.

Naprius

Naprius

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

mtricht

Limburgse Jagers

W/Mo

nuts.

pappayaponta

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Europian Comando force

W/Mo

Why not have that you could like exchange pvp faction for items in pve??

Asplode

Asplode

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Chicago, IL

Rebel Rising [rawr]

/signed for the pony idea. Oh, and you can like, upgrade your pony too, and like...comb its hair, and like...it'd be all cuddly and stuff...

Naprius

Naprius

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

mtricht

Limburgse Jagers

W/Mo

stop with the pony business. oh man me and my big mouth