Rangers in Competition Arena
pkingng
Yesterday I was testing new build with a R/Me in arena,
a monk just left the game because i am a ranger
screenshots
still win
Why people hate rangers so much??
a monk just left the game because i am a ranger
screenshots
still win
Why people hate rangers so much??
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Only because they don't realize the potential. I'm guessing that many people have experienced people who don't know how to play as rangers.
I feel that they are a very imporant type to have....ANYWHERE. Traps, distractions, etc.
Great all around. Just people don't see.
I feel that they are a very imporant type to have....ANYWHERE. Traps, distractions, etc.
Great all around. Just people don't see.
Lag Hell
Rangers r 1 of the best pvp proffesions, Frag, Interrupt, spiking, the monk was either a noob or overly drunk
audioaxes
just as warriors have the stereotype of being idiots some carry the same bias against rangers as noobs with no coherent or effective skillset who doesnt really do anything to help but be a body out there and then runs from the battle if someone sneezes in their direction
yes ive seen many noob rangers fit this profile but i have also seen some very effective rangers, including my own ranger builds
yes ive seen many noob rangers fit this profile but i have also seen some very effective rangers, including my own ranger builds
knives
Its funny how so many people in random arenas complain about not having monks around, and then leave if there aren't any. This is just ironic.
Ollj
rangers suck. ele monks do more damage
sarcasm
sarcasm
Mhydrian
If I see any form of Legolas or Aarogorn in the name, its mighty tempting to quit.
Eet GnomeSmasher
I had the same thing happen to my ranger...except the guy was a War/Mo. People are idiots.
Fantus
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Originally Posted by Mhydrian
If I see any form of Legolas or Aarogorn in the name, its mighty tempting to quit.
Yes, it is.
But still, as hard as it sometimes is not to do it, only losers quit from a PvP match before it's decided.
But still, as hard as it sometimes is not to do it, only losers quit from a PvP match before it's decided.
Bast
It's funny how many times things like this get posted. Most people are idiots and we all know that by now. Thanks.
twicky_kid
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Originally Posted by Fantus
Yes, it is.
But still, as hard as it sometimes is not to do it, only losers quit from a PvP match before it's decided. accually you can tell by the rate of the ressing if you are going to win or not.
i leave sometimes b/c not going to waste another minute knowing i'm not going to be ressed when i can join another party in 30 sec or less.
But still, as hard as it sometimes is not to do it, only losers quit from a PvP match before it's decided. accually you can tell by the rate of the ressing if you are going to win or not.
i leave sometimes b/c not going to waste another minute knowing i'm not going to be ressed when i can join another party in 30 sec or less.
Thorin
I hate rangers, but not because I think they suck. It's because they won't let me cast anything.
Rangers are awesome.
Rangers are awesome.
RTSFirebat
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Originally Posted by twicky_kid
accually you can tell by the rate of the ressing if you are going to win or not.
i leave sometimes b/c not going to waste another minute knowing i'm not going to be ressed when i can join another party in 30 sec or less. Have to agree with you, nothing more annoying then watch a lone person trying to take on 2 or 3 people from the other team, think:
Player 1 (Dead): I have a res signet, res me!
Player 2 (Dead): What are you doing, res me and I'll res another!
Player 4 (Dead): I'm going to quit, stop being a nutter and res someone!
Player 3: I don't have a res signet....
sigh!
i leave sometimes b/c not going to waste another minute knowing i'm not going to be ressed when i can join another party in 30 sec or less. Have to agree with you, nothing more annoying then watch a lone person trying to take on 2 or 3 people from the other team, think:
Player 1 (Dead): I have a res signet, res me!
Player 2 (Dead): What are you doing, res me and I'll res another!
Player 4 (Dead): I'm going to quit, stop being a nutter and res someone!
Player 3: I don't have a res signet....
sigh!
Makkert
Isn't it against forumpolicy to show the names of the players in possible flamethreads like this?
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by pkingng
Why people hate rangers so much??
It's not that they hate rangers, it's that they're moron faction farmers and drop out of any team which does not have their ideal build (1 war, 1 ele, 2 monks or something along those lines), because god forbid that they'd spend ten minutes and perhaps not win, and of course only teams consisting entirely of wars, eles, and monks can win. Right?
Well, in the fevered imaginations of these guys anyway.
In short, that asshat would likely have dropped if you were a mesmer or necro too. There's tons of asshats like that in the random arenas now; last I played my Mesmer there it was fricking impossible to get a fight a match with both teams full, all because of these morons.
Well, in the fevered imaginations of these guys anyway.
In short, that asshat would likely have dropped if you were a mesmer or necro too. There's tons of asshats like that in the random arenas now; last I played my Mesmer there it was fricking impossible to get a fight a match with both teams full, all because of these morons.
Avaran
Yet another reason to separate people who can play from the rest. Rank3>Noob arena ftw
dargon
I actually ran into that exact same moron, and we had a ranger in the party and he just dropped
*sigh*
As far as rank being a way to seperate the chaf from the wheat, even morons can farm enough fame to get rank 3
*sigh*
As far as rank being a way to seperate the chaf from the wheat, even morons can farm enough fame to get rank 3
trelloskilos
I like Numa's word for people like this. "Asshat" (My adopted word for the day)
I enjoyed my first character (A ranger). Probably out of the three, he had the benefits of being adaptable to whatever playing style suited the rest of the team, and the type of mobs that we'd be facing. With a few tweaks, he could easily hit for a high rate of damage, with poison, interrupt, poison and blind with ease, had a pet who would be a good distraction as well as compound damage to mobs, and could actively or passively trap .
The only downside to my ranger is that Solo farming was difficult.
My guess is that this "Asshat" probably had a single bad experience with a ranger, and chose not to play in teams with rangers for the rest of the game. It's his loss if that's how he chooses to play, after all, everyone's had a bad experience with a n00b W/Mo, Ele or Monk at one stage, but you don't see this stopping them from teaming up with other W/Mos etc. later on, do you?
I enjoyed my first character (A ranger). Probably out of the three, he had the benefits of being adaptable to whatever playing style suited the rest of the team, and the type of mobs that we'd be facing. With a few tweaks, he could easily hit for a high rate of damage, with poison, interrupt, poison and blind with ease, had a pet who would be a good distraction as well as compound damage to mobs, and could actively or passively trap .
The only downside to my ranger is that Solo farming was difficult.
My guess is that this "Asshat" probably had a single bad experience with a ranger, and chose not to play in teams with rangers for the rest of the game. It's his loss if that's how he chooses to play, after all, everyone's had a bad experience with a n00b W/Mo, Ele or Monk at one stage, but you don't see this stopping them from teaming up with other W/Mos etc. later on, do you?
Mysterial
It's also possible you're playing the FOTM machine gun ranger build and he doesn't want to play with people like that. I usually try to avoid of groups composed of FOTM builds as well, although I'm usually nicer and leave *after* the round instead of before.
Ollj
So i was in a random team that was really good.
We did 9 flawless victories in a row, and EVERY TIME a ranger wasted our time by running around in circles or triing to do so.
Rangers are the second stupid class right after Warriors, and now they can not abuse spirits anymore.
We did 9 flawless victories in a row, and EVERY TIME a ranger wasted our time by running around in circles or triing to do so.
Rangers are the second stupid class right after Warriors, and now they can not abuse spirits anymore.
Tactical-Dillusions
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Originally Posted by Ollj
Rangers are the second stupid class right after Warriors
It's the people behind the rangers/warriors that are givng their class a bad rep. Anyone knows that a competent person behind the keyboard of a ranger..or indeed a warrior...is deadly!
A rangers effectiveness stems from it's flexibility and versatility. Shutdown or damage, distraction or support...any of which can tip the scales of the battle.
A rangers effectiveness stems from it's flexibility and versatility. Shutdown or damage, distraction or support...any of which can tip the scales of the battle.
Vermilion Okeanos
wow, what is with that leaver? That's ridiculous...
I wonder if that idiot happen to be skeptic against NASA apollo's landing on moon.
oh yea... one more thing...
Rank = nothing = visual pleasure
You can be the top guy in GvG and rank 0, people would make fun of you for it... that's just dumb.
I wonder if that idiot happen to be skeptic against NASA apollo's landing on moon.
oh yea... one more thing...
Rank = nothing = visual pleasure
You can be the top guy in GvG and rank 0, people would make fun of you for it... that's just dumb.
Silmor
Or maybe he quit out because 90% of the Competition Arena rangers these days use the very cheap interrupt spike setup, and he doesn't want a part in it any longer?
Fire Lord
It's not cheap. It's fregin funny to see someone try and rez an ally 15 hundred times. and get interruped every time.
audioaxes
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Originally Posted by Ollj
So i was in a random team that was really good.
We did 9 flawless victories in a row, and EVERY TIME a ranger wasted our time by running around in circles or triing to do so.
Rangers are the second stupid class right after Warriors, and now they can not abuse spirits anymore. as i have said before this bias is based off of ill informed reality
i believe in reality there arent that much more % of stupid rangers and warriors than with any other class. The thing is, in a quick 1min pug beat down, others are not that noticeable. You can clearly see a warrior do something dumb like attack the warrior first instead of the monk or a ranger run around instead of helping out; But a ele, necro or mesmer can sit still, not cast a single spell and just die or have a completely idiotic skillset and you may never even realize it.
We did 9 flawless victories in a row, and EVERY TIME a ranger wasted our time by running around in circles or triing to do so.
Rangers are the second stupid class right after Warriors, and now they can not abuse spirits anymore. as i have said before this bias is based off of ill informed reality
i believe in reality there arent that much more % of stupid rangers and warriors than with any other class. The thing is, in a quick 1min pug beat down, others are not that noticeable. You can clearly see a warrior do something dumb like attack the warrior first instead of the monk or a ranger run around instead of helping out; But a ele, necro or mesmer can sit still, not cast a single spell and just die or have a completely idiotic skillset and you may never even realize it.
Lasareth
This whole fad is getting bad for my Ranger, whom I started before the craze began. People don't even give time to see that I'm not running a chain interrupt build and quit. Sucks D; I'm having to go back to my Mesmer (The next craze, I'll bet on) to get a decent group.
dargon
I'll be honest, I am running my version of the chain interrupt build (no spirits or troll), and have been for nearly a month now, long before it became FOTM. Leaving the arena because someone on your team MIGHT have a build you don't like is silly, stupid and immature.
Mike Of Gondor
Anet Should add a feture that wont let you join any type of PvP mathc after quitting one prematurley.I hate it when this happens.
KuTeBaka
Next time you see him
"sorry i dont group with retards"
XXXX has left the game.
"sorry i dont group with retards"
XXXX has left the game.
smurfhunter
im still laughing because anet just cant nerf rangers properly
Vermilion Okeanos
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Originally Posted by Fire Lord
It's not cheap. It's fregin funny to see someone try and rez an ally 15 hundred times. and get interruped every time.
You know what is funnier? watch the ranger trying so hard to interrupt your rezz after you use glyph of concentration.
Eskimo Bob
Why do people conclude rangers and warriors suck in pvp? Ohhh noes! Physicial damage is teh suxxors! Me no group wit joo!!
So a ranger is overpowered because he can shutdown a caster? Okay, mesmers are overpowered because they can shutdown a warrior. Not everyone that has a similar build coppied it. I have came up with all my own interupt ranger builds for pvp. Not once have I even glanced at another FotM build.
If you don't liker angers interupting, what do you want them to do? Sit there and spam preperations and traps? Interupts are just way to usefull in pvp to leave out.
So a ranger is overpowered because he can shutdown a caster? Okay, mesmers are overpowered because they can shutdown a warrior. Not everyone that has a similar build coppied it. I have came up with all my own interupt ranger builds for pvp. Not once have I even glanced at another FotM build.
If you don't liker angers interupting, what do you want them to do? Sit there and spam preperations and traps? Interupts are just way to usefull in pvp to leave out.
unienaule
Ranger interrupts should not be faster than ranger quickshots. Nuff said.
arkane_academy
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Originally Posted by audioaxes
as i have said before this bias is based off of ill informed reality
i believe in reality there arent that much more % of stupid rangers and warriors than with any other class. The thing is, in a quick 1min pug beat down, others are not that noticeable. You can clearly see a warrior do something dumb like attack the warrior first instead of the monk or a ranger run around instead of helping out; But a ele, necro or mesmer can sit still, not cast a single spell and just die or have a completely idiotic skillset and you may never even realize it. Sound argument about the necro/mesmer ele thing.
It is a rash generalisation that ALL warriors and ranger primarys are dumb. But it is the trend that most ill-fested puberty deprived 13 year olds choose warriors and rangers as their favourite character.
And thats whats giving the rest of us a bad name.
But really, its hard being appreciated as a ranger as in HoH you hardly ever get put in a team unless you go with guildies.
i believe in reality there arent that much more % of stupid rangers and warriors than with any other class. The thing is, in a quick 1min pug beat down, others are not that noticeable. You can clearly see a warrior do something dumb like attack the warrior first instead of the monk or a ranger run around instead of helping out; But a ele, necro or mesmer can sit still, not cast a single spell and just die or have a completely idiotic skillset and you may never even realize it. Sound argument about the necro/mesmer ele thing.
It is a rash generalisation that ALL warriors and ranger primarys are dumb. But it is the trend that most ill-fested puberty deprived 13 year olds choose warriors and rangers as their favourite character.
And thats whats giving the rest of us a bad name.
But really, its hard being appreciated as a ranger as in HoH you hardly ever get put in a team unless you go with guildies.
Maxiemonster
Interupting Rangers own in Competition Arenas, I'm actually pretty glad when I team with 3 Rangers (as long as there's not a second Healing/Prot Monk or any Warriors it's always fine with me ).
super dooper
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Originally Posted by unienaule
Ranger interrupts should not be faster than ranger quickshots. Nuff said.
then it would be like interrupting with disrupting chop or savage slash, except from a distance, and counting arrow flight time.. yeah, in other words, no.
Treager
I just think the entire "Your build is cheap as hell" attitude is so redundantly pointless...
Yeah, I admit... when I play in the arenas or pvp, and I spent a good 20-30 minutes putting together an AWESOME build that I think will totally p0wn... and someone steps up and shows me how wrong I really am... LOL that can be frustrating. The game is balanced between characters, and if you have the right set of skills and the right amount of luck/talent you can always come out smelling like a rose.
Specifically, my guild and I... (My guild consisting of me and my best friend) play in the arenas all the time and we are always challenging each other. He makes a warrior anti-monk and I make a monk anti-warrior and we duke it out till we can't fight no more LOL! We have proved that if you have the right tactics and skill sets, EVERY single class can counter any other.
My favorite match ever was, I had a mesmer/elementalist... he had a warrior/monk... and that match lasted for about 20 minutes with just he and I duking it out on our own. Both our teamates cheering us on like crazy. I kept making him damage himself and stealing his energy... he kept healing himself and poking at me with smiting prayers. By the end of the battle we both had no energy points and about 50 hp apiece. He took a chance swing while having empathy and spirit of failure cast on him, took the damage and killed me with the last swing, bringing him down to 9hp. We were cracking up on teamspeak for about 5 minutes.
Yeah, I admit... when I play in the arenas or pvp, and I spent a good 20-30 minutes putting together an AWESOME build that I think will totally p0wn... and someone steps up and shows me how wrong I really am... LOL that can be frustrating. The game is balanced between characters, and if you have the right set of skills and the right amount of luck/talent you can always come out smelling like a rose.
Specifically, my guild and I... (My guild consisting of me and my best friend) play in the arenas all the time and we are always challenging each other. He makes a warrior anti-monk and I make a monk anti-warrior and we duke it out till we can't fight no more LOL! We have proved that if you have the right tactics and skill sets, EVERY single class can counter any other.
My favorite match ever was, I had a mesmer/elementalist... he had a warrior/monk... and that match lasted for about 20 minutes with just he and I duking it out on our own. Both our teamates cheering us on like crazy. I kept making him damage himself and stealing his energy... he kept healing himself and poking at me with smiting prayers. By the end of the battle we both had no energy points and about 50 hp apiece. He took a chance swing while having empathy and spirit of failure cast on him, took the damage and killed me with the last swing, bringing him down to 9hp. We were cracking up on teamspeak for about 5 minutes.
M3lk0r
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Originally Posted by dargon
I'll be honest, I am running my version of the chain interrupt build (no spirits or troll), and have been for nearly a month now, long before it became FOTM. Leaving the arena because someone on your team MIGHT have a build you don't like is silly, stupid and immature.
I feel your pain. Ranger interrupter is the only PvP class I enjoy playing, and I've been tweaking Kindle builds way before the last update. Damn elitists :/
wsmcasey
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Originally Posted by Fire Lord
It's not cheap. It's fregin funny to see someone try and rez an ally 15 hundred times. and get interruped every time.
This happened to my warrior last night in random arena several times. Everyone got on board with the distracting ranger. I was doing it when it wasn't cool to play a ranger.
I new that I was dead right off the bat last night when I say 3 ranger and 1 warrior on the other team. I guessed that they were all using the distracting build and I was correct.
It's a little overpowered to be able to interrupt so much and so fast, but I can't complain because I love my ranger also!
I new that I was dead right off the bat last night when I say 3 ranger and 1 warrior on the other team. I guessed that they were all using the distracting build and I was correct.
It's a little overpowered to be able to interrupt so much and so fast, but I can't complain because I love my ranger also!
smurfhunter
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Originally Posted by dargon
I'll be honest, I am running my version of the chain interrupt build (no spirits or troll), and have been for nearly a month now, long before it became FOTM. Leaving the arena because someone on your team MIGHT have a build you don't like is silly, stupid and immature.
im sorry to say this, but a month ago it wasnt possible to run an interupt chain because both punishing shot and savage shot took as long to shoot as, say, double shot. meaning unless you wanted to interupt firestorm, you could only get lucky with it. before only distracting shot and concussion shot attacked as fast as quick shot.
so if you were running the same skill set as the kind of distract chain people use now.... it wouldnt be very good.
so if you were running the same skill set as the kind of distract chain people use now.... it wouldnt be very good.