Rangers in Competition Arena

pkingng

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Yesterday I was testing new build with a R/Me in arena,
a monk just left the game because i am a ranger
screenshots


still win



Why people hate rangers so much??

Alone)

Alone)

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Campbell, California

Legio Imortalii

W/Mo

Only because they don't realize the potential. I'm guessing that many people have experienced people who don't know how to play as rangers.

I feel that they are a very imporant type to have....ANYWHERE. Traps, distractions, etc.
Great all around. Just people don't see.

Lag Hell

Lag Hell

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Rangers r 1 of the best pvp proffesions, Frag, Interrupt, spiking, the monk was either a noob or overly drunk

audioaxes

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

just as warriors have the stereotype of being idiots some carry the same bias against rangers as noobs with no coherent or effective skillset who doesnt really do anything to help but be a body out there and then runs from the battle if someone sneezes in their direction

yes ive seen many noob rangers fit this profile but i have also seen some very effective rangers, including my own ranger builds

knives

knives

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Me/

Its funny how so many people in random arenas complain about not having monks around, and then leave if there aren't any. This is just ironic.

Ollj

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

rangers suck. ele monks do more damage

sarcasm

Mhydrian

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/Me

If I see any form of Legolas or Aarogorn in the name, its mighty tempting to quit.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

I had the same thing happen to my ranger...except the guy was a War/Mo. People are idiots.

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mhydrian
If I see any form of Legolas or Aarogorn in the name, its mighty tempting to quit. Yes, it is.

But still, as hard as it sometimes is not to do it, only losers quit from a PvP match before it's decided.

Bast

Bast

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

It's funny how many times things like this get posted. Most people are idiots and we all know that by now. Thanks.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fantus
Yes, it is.

But still, as hard as it sometimes is not to do it, only losers quit from a PvP match before it's decided. accually you can tell by the rate of the ressing if you are going to win or not.

i leave sometimes b/c not going to waste another minute knowing i'm not going to be ressed when i can join another party in 30 sec or less.

Thorin

Thorin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Nomad

House Of Flying Drunkards [Lush]

N/Me

I hate rangers, but not because I think they suck. It's because they won't let me cast anything.

Rangers are awesome.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
accually you can tell by the rate of the ressing if you are going to win or not.

i leave sometimes b/c not going to waste another minute knowing i'm not going to be ressed when i can join another party in 30 sec or less. Have to agree with you, nothing more annoying then watch a lone person trying to take on 2 or 3 people from the other team, think:

Player 1 (Dead): I have a res signet, res me!
Player 2 (Dead): What are you doing, res me and I'll res another!
Player 4 (Dead): I'm going to quit, stop being a nutter and res someone!

Player 3: I don't have a res signet....

sigh!

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Isn't it against forumpolicy to show the names of the players in possible flamethreads like this?

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by pkingng
Why people hate rangers so much?? It's not that they hate rangers, it's that they're moron faction farmers and drop out of any team which does not have their ideal build (1 war, 1 ele, 2 monks or something along those lines), because god forbid that they'd spend ten minutes and perhaps not win, and of course only teams consisting entirely of wars, eles, and monks can win. Right?
Well, in the fevered imaginations of these guys anyway.

In short, that asshat would likely have dropped if you were a mesmer or necro too. There's tons of asshats like that in the random arenas now; last I played my Mesmer there it was fricking impossible to get a fight a match with both teams full, all because of these morons.

Avaran

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Yet another reason to separate people who can play from the rest. Rank3>Noob arena ftw

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

I actually ran into that exact same moron, and we had a ranger in the party and he just dropped

*sigh*

As far as rank being a way to seperate the chaf from the wheat, even morons can farm enough fame to get rank 3

trelloskilos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Guitarring Adventurers Society

R/N

I like Numa's word for people like this. "Asshat" (My adopted word for the day)

I enjoyed my first character (A ranger). Probably out of the three, he had the benefits of being adaptable to whatever playing style suited the rest of the team, and the type of mobs that we'd be facing. With a few tweaks, he could easily hit for a high rate of damage, with poison, interrupt, poison and blind with ease, had a pet who would be a good distraction as well as compound damage to mobs, and could actively or passively trap .

The only downside to my ranger is that Solo farming was difficult.

My guess is that this "Asshat" probably had a single bad experience with a ranger, and chose not to play in teams with rangers for the rest of the game. It's his loss if that's how he chooses to play, after all, everyone's had a bad experience with a n00b W/Mo, Ele or Monk at one stage, but you don't see this stopping them from teaming up with other W/Mos etc. later on, do you?

Mysterial

Mysterial

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Servants of Fortuna

E/Me

It's also possible you're playing the FOTM machine gun ranger build and he doesn't want to play with people like that. I usually try to avoid of groups composed of FOTM builds as well, although I'm usually nicer and leave *after* the round instead of before.

Ollj

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

So i was in a random team that was really good.
We did 9 flawless victories in a row, and EVERY TIME a ranger wasted our time by running around in circles or triing to do so.
Rangers are the second stupid class right after Warriors, and now they can not abuse spirits anymore.

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollj
Rangers are the second stupid class right after Warriors It's the people behind the rangers/warriors that are givng their class a bad rep. Anyone knows that a competent person behind the keyboard of a ranger..or indeed a warrior...is deadly!

A rangers effectiveness stems from it's flexibility and versatility. Shutdown or damage, distraction or support...any of which can tip the scales of the battle.

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

wow, what is with that leaver? That's ridiculous...

I wonder if that idiot happen to be skeptic against NASA apollo's landing on moon.

oh yea... one more thing...
Rank = nothing = visual pleasure
You can be the top guy in GvG and rank 0, people would make fun of you for it... that's just dumb.

Silmor

Silmor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Or maybe he quit out because 90% of the Competition Arena rangers these days use the very cheap interrupt spike setup, and he doesn't want a part in it any longer?

Fire Lord

Fire Lord

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

California

Legion of Losers

It's not cheap. It's fregin funny to see someone try and rez an ally 15 hundred times. and get interruped every time.

audioaxes

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollj
So i was in a random team that was really good.
We did 9 flawless victories in a row, and EVERY TIME a ranger wasted our time by running around in circles or triing to do so.
Rangers are the second stupid class right after Warriors, and now they can not abuse spirits anymore. as i have said before this bias is based off of ill informed reality
i believe in reality there arent that much more % of stupid rangers and warriors than with any other class. The thing is, in a quick 1min pug beat down, others are not that noticeable. You can clearly see a warrior do something dumb like attack the warrior first instead of the monk or a ranger run around instead of helping out; But a ele, necro or mesmer can sit still, not cast a single spell and just die or have a completely idiotic skillset and you may never even realize it.

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

This whole fad is getting bad for my Ranger, whom I started before the craze began. People don't even give time to see that I'm not running a chain interrupt build and quit. Sucks D; I'm having to go back to my Mesmer (The next craze, I'll bet on) to get a decent group.

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

I'll be honest, I am running my version of the chain interrupt build (no spirits or troll), and have been for nearly a month now, long before it became FOTM. Leaving the arena because someone on your team MIGHT have a build you don't like is silly, stupid and immature.

Mike Of Gondor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Pendragons Paladins

R/E

Anet Should add a feture that wont let you join any type of PvP mathc after quitting one prematurley.I hate it when this happens.

KuTeBaka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Next time you see him
"sorry i dont group with retards"
XXXX has left the game.

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

im still laughing because anet just cant nerf rangers properly

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Lord
It's not cheap. It's fregin funny to see someone try and rez an ally 15 hundred times. and get interruped every time. You know what is funnier? watch the ranger trying so hard to interrupt your rezz after you use glyph of concentration.

Eskimo Bob

Eskimo Bob

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada, Alberta

Angelic Knights

W/Mo

Why do people conclude rangers and warriors suck in pvp? Ohhh noes! Physicial damage is teh suxxors! Me no group wit joo!!

So a ranger is overpowered because he can shutdown a caster? Okay, mesmers are overpowered because they can shutdown a warrior. Not everyone that has a similar build coppied it. I have came up with all my own interupt ranger builds for pvp. Not once have I even glanced at another FotM build.

If you don't liker angers interupting, what do you want them to do? Sit there and spam preperations and traps? Interupts are just way to usefull in pvp to leave out.

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Ranger interrupts should not be faster than ranger quickshots. Nuff said.

arkane_academy

arkane_academy

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

New Zealand

[MESA]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by audioaxes
as i have said before this bias is based off of ill informed reality
i believe in reality there arent that much more % of stupid rangers and warriors than with any other class. The thing is, in a quick 1min pug beat down, others are not that noticeable. You can clearly see a warrior do something dumb like attack the warrior first instead of the monk or a ranger run around instead of helping out; But a ele, necro or mesmer can sit still, not cast a single spell and just die or have a completely idiotic skillset and you may never even realize it. Sound argument about the necro/mesmer ele thing.
It is a rash generalisation that ALL warriors and ranger primarys are dumb. But it is the trend that most ill-fested puberty deprived 13 year olds choose warriors and rangers as their favourite character.
And thats whats giving the rest of us a bad name.
But really, its hard being appreciated as a ranger as in HoH you hardly ever get put in a team unless you go with guildies.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Interupting Rangers own in Competition Arenas, I'm actually pretty glad when I team with 3 Rangers (as long as there's not a second Healing/Prot Monk or any Warriors it's always fine with me ).

super dooper

super dooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by unienaule
Ranger interrupts should not be faster than ranger quickshots. Nuff said. then it would be like interrupting with disrupting chop or savage slash, except from a distance, and counting arrow flight time.. yeah, in other words, no.

Treager

Treager

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Portland, Oregon

Holy Wrath

W/Me

I just think the entire "Your build is cheap as hell" attitude is so redundantly pointless...

Yeah, I admit... when I play in the arenas or pvp, and I spent a good 20-30 minutes putting together an AWESOME build that I think will totally p0wn... and someone steps up and shows me how wrong I really am... LOL that can be frustrating. The game is balanced between characters, and if you have the right set of skills and the right amount of luck/talent you can always come out smelling like a rose.

Specifically, my guild and I... (My guild consisting of me and my best friend) play in the arenas all the time and we are always challenging each other. He makes a warrior anti-monk and I make a monk anti-warrior and we duke it out till we can't fight no more LOL! We have proved that if you have the right tactics and skill sets, EVERY single class can counter any other.

My favorite match ever was, I had a mesmer/elementalist... he had a warrior/monk... and that match lasted for about 20 minutes with just he and I duking it out on our own. Both our teamates cheering us on like crazy. I kept making him damage himself and stealing his energy... he kept healing himself and poking at me with smiting prayers. By the end of the battle we both had no energy points and about 50 hp apiece. He took a chance swing while having empathy and spirit of failure cast on him, took the damage and killed me with the last swing, bringing him down to 9hp. We were cracking up on teamspeak for about 5 minutes.

M3lk0r

M3lk0r

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by dargon
I'll be honest, I am running my version of the chain interrupt build (no spirits or troll), and have been for nearly a month now, long before it became FOTM. Leaving the arena because someone on your team MIGHT have a build you don't like is silly, stupid and immature. I feel your pain. Ranger interrupter is the only PvP class I enjoy playing, and I've been tweaking Kindle builds way before the last update. Damn elitists :/

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Lord
It's not cheap. It's fregin funny to see someone try and rez an ally 15 hundred times. and get interruped every time. This happened to my warrior last night in random arena several times. Everyone got on board with the distracting ranger. I was doing it when it wasn't cool to play a ranger.
I new that I was dead right off the bat last night when I say 3 ranger and 1 warrior on the other team. I guessed that they were all using the distracting build and I was correct.

It's a little overpowered to be able to interrupt so much and so fast, but I can't complain because I love my ranger also!

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by dargon
I'll be honest, I am running my version of the chain interrupt build (no spirits or troll), and have been for nearly a month now, long before it became FOTM. Leaving the arena because someone on your team MIGHT have a build you don't like is silly, stupid and immature. im sorry to say this, but a month ago it wasnt possible to run an interupt chain because both punishing shot and savage shot took as long to shoot as, say, double shot. meaning unless you wanted to interupt firestorm, you could only get lucky with it. before only distracting shot and concussion shot attacked as fast as quick shot.

so if you were running the same skill set as the kind of distract chain people use now.... it wouldnt be very good.