Is it free roaming?
Noahoneill
When i say free roaming i mean not restricted by invisible walls, can run in water, swim, jump, ect ect.
can you do any of that?
can you do any of that?
Kha
No. There are invisible walls, particularly in water since there is no swimming.
thaumaturge
There are invisible walls
You can go in shallow water
You can jump with a command /jump
You can go in shallow water
You can jump with a command /jump
Noahoneill
aww, ok. thanks.
(Still just as excited about the game though ;D)
(Still just as excited about the game though ;D)
RockHardly
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Originally Posted by thaumaturge
There are invisible walls
You can go in shallow water You can jump with a command /jump |
This is not good.
I should have played the beta a bit more before committing to this game.
Kha
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Originally Posted by RockHardly
You're kidding?
This is not good. I should have played the beta a bit more before committing to this game. |
ocoini
LOTS of "rpg's" wont let you jump or let you travel as far as you can see.. I'd even say most wont let you jump or move everywhere..
Sure it would be nice to be able to jump and run all over.. But its not a game breaker in my eyes.
Sure it would be nice to be able to jump and run all over.. But its not a game breaker in my eyes.
TwinRaven
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Originally Posted by RockHardly
You're kidding?
This is not good. I should have played the beta a bit more before committing to this game. |
Seriously? There are a lot of good things here...I can see that it would be great to have the freedom of movement you get from, say, oh, Morrowind, but they have to make certain restrictions to keep the map sizes and such managable...If trimming a bit off the travel area of a map means I don't suffer from lag in battle...I'd say it's a fair trade. The maps are huge, and as long as mobs can't jump over things to catch me, I won't worry about jumping over them to run away...
Olfin Bedwere
Frankly I don`t understand the swimming part. If your a Warrior in full armor, what kind of fool would jump off into deep water and try to swim? The invisible walls are where the deep water starts so as not to go in there, it`s not like your walking down a path and run into an invisio wall so you can`t go into the area and frankly jumping is overrated, it should have ended with the death of side-scrollers.
RockHardly
I noticed when I started playing it that it was very restrictive. I thought this was just because I wasn't used to it.
The fact that you have to write in "/jump" to jump is pretty lame - along with the no swimming and the invisible walls, it really tears away from the immersiveness.
It's simply not polished. I'm just annoyed because what I thought was a "new to the control" issue is actually a "design decision" issue. That bothers me.
The fact that you have to write in "/jump" to jump is pretty lame - along with the no swimming and the invisible walls, it really tears away from the immersiveness.
It's simply not polished. I'm just annoyed because what I thought was a "new to the control" issue is actually a "design decision" issue. That bothers me.
Manderlock
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Originally Posted by RockHardly
I noticed when I started playing it that it was very restrictive. I thought this was just because I wasn't used to it.
The fact that you have to write in "/jump" to jump is pretty lame - along with the no swimming and the invisible walls, it really tears away from the immersiveness. It's simply not polished. I'm just annoyed because what I thought was a "new to the control" issue is actually a "design decision" issue. That bothers me. |
My jaw hit the floor when you said "Not polished"
RockHardly
lol
Sorry 'bout that, but it seems rushed to me.
I don't want it to be bad - I mean, I just dropped $80 on it.
I'm crossing my fingers & hoping it gets a lot better over the next few months.
Sorry 'bout that, but it seems rushed to me.
I don't want it to be bad - I mean, I just dropped $80 on it.
I'm crossing my fingers & hoping it gets a lot better over the next few months.
Kha
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Originally Posted by RockHardly
lol
Sorry 'bout that, but it seems rushed to me. I don't want it to be bad - I mean, I just dropped $80 on it. I'm crossing my fingers & hoping it gets a lot better over the next few months. |
Maia
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Originally Posted by RockHardly
lol
Sorry 'bout that, but it seems rushed to me. I don't want it to be bad - I mean, I just dropped $80 on it. I'm crossing my fingers & hoping it gets a lot better over the next few months. |
I agree not actual jumping is a bit of a disppointment. I m not sure what it is but i just like being able to jump on these games. But to say that because its not in the game makes it rushed is absurd.
The game is incredible. Ive basically put all other games on hold since it came out. I have a level 48 Dirge on EQ2 i was trying to get to 50 and havent touched him since. I have a couple other great games I was working on including God of War and Silent Hunter 3 and both have been played once since GW went live. The game is great. It should only get better.
Grymlock
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Originally Posted by Noahoneill
When i say free roaming i mean not restricted by invisible walls, can run in water, swim, jump, ect ect.
can you do any of that? |
Cliff siving in WoW was coo, but how many people can swim in full armor?
Tyveil
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Originally Posted by RockHardly
lol
Sorry 'bout that, but it seems rushed to me. I don't want it to be bad - I mean, I just dropped $80 on it. I'm crossing my fingers & hoping it gets a lot better over the next few months. |
Shadowdaemon
jumping??? for gods sake, who cares? go outside and see how far you can jump, see if there is anywhere you can get by jumping that you couldnt by walking.
that is totally ridiculous, what next, people complaining because their character cant sleep or go to the bathroom.
that is totally ridiculous, what next, people complaining because their character cant sleep or go to the bathroom.
Ashleigh McMahon
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Originally Posted by ocoini
LOTS of "rpg's" wont let you jump or let you travel as far as you can see.. I'd even say most wont let you jump or move everywhere..
Sure it would be nice to be able to jump and run all over.. But its not a game breaker in my eyes. |
You can only do little face emotions, no jumping.
Also, you can't walk in water.
It's pretty much free to roam.
Regards, Ashleigh.
Eet GnomeSmasher
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Originally Posted by Shadowdaemon
jumping??? for gods sake, who cares? go outside and see how far you can jump, see if there is anywhere you can get by jumping that you couldnt by walking.
that is totally ridiculous, what next, people complaining because their character cant sleep or go to the bathroom. |
You are so like ComicBookGuy from the Simpsons. Especially with the cliche name ShadowDaemon.
Sjoerd
I am personally a tad annoyed by the "roads". Some times if you want to go down a hill which doesn't seem very steep you just can't because an invisible wall is blocking your way. You will then have to walk around and find a road down. Frankly, lot of maps are just open air mazes. A little more freedom in walking around would have been very welcome.
Morat
I've just got stuck in a map... is there a way to get out again? Who should I call? Ghostbusters?
(I got trapped behind a gate after Prince Ruik opened it to free some prisoners, and my stupid cat is jammed up behind me)
(I got trapped behind a gate after Prince Ruik opened it to free some prisoners, and my stupid cat is jammed up behind me)
Mariena Feladon
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Originally Posted by Sjoerd
I am personally a tad annoyed by the "roads". Some times if you want to go down a hill which doesn't seem very steep you just can't because an invisible wall is blocking your way. You will then have to walk around and find a road down. Frankly, lot of maps are just open air mazes. A little more freedom in walking around would have been very welcome.
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"Careful, Mariena! This gap here is 5" deep! Wouldn't want you to die and all."
ChristopherKee
The game is setup to use restricted movement as tactics for PvP and PvE. Missions are designed with this in mind.
It's not rushed. It's polished. And it was intended to be restrictive.
It's not rushed. It's polished. And it was intended to be restrictive.
Robos Stavanis
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Originally Posted by RockHardly
I noticed when I started playing it that it was very restrictive. I thought this was just because I wasn't used to it.
The fact that you have to write in "/jump" to jump is pretty lame - along with the no swimming and the invisible walls, it really tears away from the immersiveness. It's simply not polished. I'm just annoyed because what I thought was a "new to the control" issue is actually a "design decision" issue. That bothers me. |
Not being able to go into deep water, climb up a vertical mountain, or have to use /jump to jump is no game breaker be me considering all the positives this game brings to the table.
Soul Monarch
Agh!!
Did Final Fantasy have jumping? No!
Shadow Hearts? No!
Phantasy Star or Chrono Trigger? No, and no!
Star Ocean? Nope!
Some of the greatest games of all time did not need jumping to rock your gaming world, and neither does Guild Wars. (Please note that none of those games had swimming either. )
If this game was actually an MMORPG, then it would probably have those things. But it's not. It's about the strategy and skill, not the ability to run behind someone at the exact moment to explot a glitch where they're spells won't work if you are standing in a certain spot!
Removing the free roaming environment also removes innumerable bugs that would negatively affect the gaming experience. Trust me, it's a good thing.
P.S. Yes, I know the Final Fantasy Legend III had jumping. But come on: It was only one out of fifteen.
Did Final Fantasy have jumping? No!
Shadow Hearts? No!
Phantasy Star or Chrono Trigger? No, and no!
Star Ocean? Nope!
Some of the greatest games of all time did not need jumping to rock your gaming world, and neither does Guild Wars. (Please note that none of those games had swimming either. )
If this game was actually an MMORPG, then it would probably have those things. But it's not. It's about the strategy and skill, not the ability to run behind someone at the exact moment to explot a glitch where they're spells won't work if you are standing in a certain spot!
Removing the free roaming environment also removes innumerable bugs that would negatively affect the gaming experience. Trust me, it's a good thing.
P.S. Yes, I know the Final Fantasy Legend III had jumping. But come on: It was only one out of fifteen.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by RockHardly
You're kidding?
This is not good. I should have played the beta a bit more before committing to this game. |
he played the beta
nobody is so stupid not to discover the invisible walls ,the missing *jump * button, or the way you can only run in some water
it is a joke and he got the collectors edition as well from the price