can we get the +5 energy swords back please?

maxpower

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

please give 'em back

i'm trying to get one for my monk but people ask for 100k or more =/

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

I think you answered your own question - the swords were designed for warriors, but it seems that spellcasters (especially monks) use them the most. That's why they got nerfed. I think they're gone for good...

Blue Steel

Blue Steel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Blue Empire [BLUE]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
I think you answered your own question - the swords were designed for warriors, but it seems that spellcasters (especially monks) use them the most. That's why they got nerfed. I think they're gone for good...
That is exactly right. they are overpowered for any spellcaster. Good casters don't use their weapon for combat, and with a +5 energy sword and a +12 energy offhand with 20/20 recharge and fast casting (cheap collector stuff), the caster has 17 extra energy absolutely unconditionally, incredible casting bonuses, and still has the opportunity to apply a perfect mod or two, like fortitude, defense, or enchanting. All the benefits of a staff with better bonuses and more energy to boot.

All that being said, I might have one kicking around, but I think they are or will be worth far more than 100K soon enough.

DreamCatcher

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Netherlands

DVDF

R/Mo

These swords are definately not gone for good. they are still there and available to the rich exclusively. I think it's clear why these swords are overpowered and thus will give the richer PvP'ers a totaly unfair advantage over anyone who hasn't got that sword.

Either all examples of that sword should be whiped, Limited in some other way or brought back or PvP will belong to the rich instead of the skilled

d4nowar

d4nowar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/

I still have one, and I'm keeping that thing until I see it go for 400k.

brute blake

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

NSW, Australia

International Moa Society [Moa]

E/

but cant monks have a wand with +12 energy and a off hand with +12 energy??

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by brute blake
but cant monks have a wand with +12 energy and a off hand with +12 energy??
wands don't have energy bonuses

cagan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Me/Mo

You can fairly cheaply get a +5 energy >50 wand in trade, which really isn't a whole lot worse.

One and Two

One and Two

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
wands don't have energy bonuses
Wands can have up to +15, but you also get the penalty of -1 regen.

aron searle

aron searle

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

I think that they should either bring them back or delete them permanantly, its not fair that only the rich can have them.

Personally i would like to see them come back, then my warrior may actually use swords for once.

Naprius

Naprius

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

mtricht

Limburgse Jagers

W/Mo

a nice example of why the "it isnt all about money you know" - argument is bullshit

Okae

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

LA.. not Lions Arch

R/Me

If you're intent on getting a one handed weapon with +5 always energy and don't care about modding it or the dmg it does... then there's a collector outside of Nolani's Academy that gives a fire wand for 3 charr carvings with +5 energy all the time.

It says it requires 5 fire, but I use it on my N/Me and I still get the +5 energy bonus.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by One and Two
Wands can have up to +15, but you also get the penalty of -1 regen.
save for that one

i stand corrected

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

However, the wand is clearly inferior. You cannot put a +20 enchant on the wand.

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Interesting discussion.
Different approach: should this sword be nerfed?
If it is considered overpowered, why spare it from nerfing? Why stop at skills with gamebalancing?