Hacking in Tombs?
Kariston The Swift
I was in Tombs today and we were doing relic runs. They had one of their monks rush in and grab the orb so I call him and everyone starts to go after him. Then we noticed something weird....The monk was running at like super speed. Even our sprint warrior couldn't get to him before he got to the ghost. Also I'm not sure if this is out of the ordinary but they had a warrior who was hitting our warriors for 170+ damage with eviscerate which I've never seen before. Has this happened to anyone else?
Anraeth
weaken armor might account for the damage, but this game is basically hack proof
Lews
Its hackproof. I remember hearing about it. The game is stored on a-net on not on computers, so you can't hack in, or something. 170 dmg? Weaken armor, 16 axe, strength of honor.... judges insight.... critical hit.... a number of things. super speed? charge + sprint + windborne speed or something. I think the max you can run is 50% though.
Sol_Vie
Do run speeds stack? If he had a ranger secondary he could have been using dodge or escape or stormchaser, or sprint if he was an Mo/W. That combined with a water (or air, can't remember) spell that inreases run speed by 25%. If it stacks, that could be it, along with a couple other things.
KuTeBaka
the running speed stacks up to 33%, but that is not including the relic that slows it down. So basicly sprint+charge+windborne might make him 33%, which is faster than the warriors 25% sprint.
Kariston The Swift
Sorry forgot to say he had a mesmer secondary and if I remember right they had no elementalists but if they did even with Windborne he shouldn't be able to outrun a warrior with sprint.
Edit: Also they had no necros so rule out weaken armor.
Edit: Also they had no necros so rule out weaken armor.
Lews
mesmer secondary? Illusion of something or other.
Ollj
i dont know 1/4 of all skills, must be a hack!
Kariston The Swift
Illusion of Haste requires you to stop and cast it. I had him targeted the whole time and he didn't stop nor did it show up on his casting bar. If he had casted it before I targetted him it wouldn't have lasted the whole way to the Hero.
illst-azn
illusion of haste --->he cannot be crippled, but after it ends, hebecomes crippled. btw, running speeds only stack up to 33%
Kariston The Swift
Illusion of Haste - Enchantment Spell
For 5-10 seconds you are no longer Crippled, and you move 33% faster than normal. When Illusion of Haste ends, you become Crippled for 15 seconds.
Close though xP
For 5-10 seconds you are no longer Crippled, and you move 33% faster than normal. When Illusion of Haste ends, you become Crippled for 15 seconds.
Close though xP
Dametrus
Hmm...Not sure. I will not say that this game is hackproof. I have seen other server based games be hacked to high heaven and back. But, it does seem that maybe with the right skill usage, what happened to your group is possilbe. Now, if it seems a little far fetched, use fraps if you have it to start recording the fight and email to the right people. If there is something that you saw that was wrong...chances are, the people you send it to will see it as well.
smurfhunter
let me just say it wasnt a hack. as for how he did it, well, some running speed with windborne speed on him, possibly you were snared and didnt realise it. the only thing i know which resembles 'hacks' (but its actually a glitch) is when your ghost like disapears in relic runs and you cant give him the relic. either that or you select your ghost and your character just moves to this random spot on the map asnd you basically cant deliver the relic. beyond that, i have *never* seen a hack in tombs and i doubt i ever will.
Kariston The Swift
The only reason I thought it could be a hack was because I remember hearing about someone on here who knew how to make a speedhack but was only using it to speed up his casting animation for video purposes.
Jakerius
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Valid point. You got beaten and you blame it on a hack. Congratulations, you've joined the ranks of whiny girl losers everywhere.
Kariston The Swift
Heh actually we won because their hero got stuck under the map after respawning. No hero = No captures. I'm not proud of it but it proves my point that this thread wasn't to whine. Now calm yourself and find someone else to flame.
sybban
Can't hack huh? that's interesting.
Phrozenflame
Nothing is " Hack-proof "
However, GW is best coded for anti-hacking.
However, GW is best coded for anti-hacking.
KuTeBaka
The only way to hack it is to hack into anets server, as all the stuff is calculated there. Kuntz has a way to slow down guild wars to copy animations, but thats not really beneficial.
Kaospryx
Did you note if a warrior nearby was using "Charge!" ? It's a shout, so it should stack with an enchantments or stances.
smurfhunter
let me just say that 99.999999% of people who say they can hack are full of crap. gw or not. and gw is pretty resilient to hacks... so im guessing.... no hack. really.
Syno Nym
Nobody can run at +33% with a relic without Windborne / Charge / Sprint / Stromchaser / anything else to buff his speed.
If this monk was really mesmer secondary, either he used illusion of haste when you weren't paying attention, or someone came near him and used "Charge !" (in which case he wouldn't have ran faster than your warriors). There's no hack in Guild Wars, and even if it's POSSIBLE to hack Anet servers, they would see it quickly.
There was probably an elementalist that you didn't see (I'll tell you a secret : there are also SECONDARY elementalists, and they can use Windborne too !).
For your warriors : bad armor (pve char haha), Frenzy or healing signet. Even with Weaken armor, you can't make 170dmg to a warrior with Eviscerate (unless he's got a crappy armor or is using frenzy / healing signet), cause his defense will still be around 75/80. Even with buffs like OoP and SoH I'm not sure it's possible...
If this monk was really mesmer secondary, either he used illusion of haste when you weren't paying attention, or someone came near him and used "Charge !" (in which case he wouldn't have ran faster than your warriors). There's no hack in Guild Wars, and even if it's POSSIBLE to hack Anet servers, they would see it quickly.
There was probably an elementalist that you didn't see (I'll tell you a secret : there are also SECONDARY elementalists, and they can use Windborne too !).
For your warriors : bad armor (pve char haha), Frenzy or healing signet. Even with Weaken armor, you can't make 170dmg to a warrior with Eviscerate (unless he's got a crappy armor or is using frenzy / healing signet), cause his defense will still be around 75/80. Even with buffs like OoP and SoH I'm not sure it's possible...
Kariston The Swift
This would be the first time I've ever seen anything like it so I wouldn't be suprised if it was some skill combo I missed. Anyways thanks for the comments nonetheless.
sybban
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let me just say that 99.999999% of people who say they can hack are full of crap. gw or not. and gw is pretty resilient to hacks... so im guessing.... no hack. really.
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smurfhunter
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Really? Where does your info come from? How many hackers do you know? I'm just curious
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oh and as to 99.999999%, well its measured and recorded data. solid fact. its going to be on page 2,384 of the 2007 version of the Britannica. wait until then before you argue over my numbers
sybban
If I did why would I tell you?
Anyway, this conversation is pointless
Anyway, this conversation is pointless
Brett Kuntz
I don't know if this was posted yet, but here's how to do it. Sprint and Windborne stack onto each other when you're carrying an object (relic), so you run really really fast. It's a bug, and there's even a video of it being used.
Wolvenbear
As far as taking 170 damage, I haven't even seen my Ele take that much damage. Ever. And Ele's get pounded on a lot. Not too sure how that could happen.
Now for the speedup I agree with the folks posting about stacking buffs. Mo/Me probably used Illusion of Haste and got Windborn or Charge from a teammate. For everyone saying there's just no way to hack the servers: do a little research please. I seem to recall a program called Speedup (or something generic like that) that was supposed to increase the performance of games on your PC. Back when I played FFXI a lot, everyone thought it was also "hack proof" since they had a full year of play (plus beta!) in Japan. Turns out the American gamers found Speedup actually increased the run speed of your character in game. There was a big thing about it. Accounts got suspended and then banned, Square-Enix actually made a press announcement about it, and a few weeks later there was a large patch. Suddenly there were no more people running 100% faster.
Not exactly a hack per-se, more of an exploit, but cheating none the less.
Now for the speedup I agree with the folks posting about stacking buffs. Mo/Me probably used Illusion of Haste and got Windborn or Charge from a teammate. For everyone saying there's just no way to hack the servers: do a little research please. I seem to recall a program called Speedup (or something generic like that) that was supposed to increase the performance of games on your PC. Back when I played FFXI a lot, everyone thought it was also "hack proof" since they had a full year of play (plus beta!) in Japan. Turns out the American gamers found Speedup actually increased the run speed of your character in game. There was a big thing about it. Accounts got suspended and then banned, Square-Enix actually made a press announcement about it, and a few weeks later there was a large patch. Suddenly there were no more people running 100% faster.
Not exactly a hack per-se, more of an exploit, but cheating none the less.
sybban
Speedup has been modified and still works. Just no one is stupid enough to use it now. Not to mention you have to reboot your comp everytime you use it.
FFXI should have incorperated it. That is the slowest game ever. I have flashbacks sometimes of running for the airship at slower than ballsweat speed just in time for it take off as I'm inches away. That happened like just about all the time. Damn that game!
FFXI should have incorperated it. That is the slowest game ever. I have flashbacks sometimes of running for the airship at slower than ballsweat speed just in time for it take off as I'm inches away. That happened like just about all the time. Damn that game!
Xploit
Heh thats why I always ran around as a /THF for flee and w/e.
sybban
Screw thief. Ninja AF gear
Axle_Fieshe
i saw someone hackin in tombs once, not when they were fighting, just the place where you organise teams. The guy ran from one side to another in like 3 seconds.....
sybban
Um that sounds like the end result of rubber-banding. Not hacking
Makkert
Ward against Foes + windborn?
as you see by the previous posters, the possibilities are there...
you'd need a movie to convince someone of hacking probably. and even then it will be hard....
~ Makk.
as you see by the previous posters, the possibilities are there...
you'd need a movie to convince someone of hacking probably. and even then it will be hard....
~ Makk.
Fenix Swiftblade
Judges Insight will let Eviscerate do 170+damage to a warrior.
Holy Damage: 60 = armor by default
then with the +20% armor penetration they have 48 armor.
I'm not positive if strength is factored in here but I'm pretty sure, so assuming a strength at level 10, the target only is calculated to have 42 armor, regardless of what armor they are wearing. Thats an increase of roughly 30%.
This would easily account for 170 damage from Eviscerate. (Shame weaken armor doesn't affect holy damage
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Holy Damage: 60 = armor by default
then with the +20% armor penetration they have 48 armor.
I'm not positive if strength is factored in here but I'm pretty sure, so assuming a strength at level 10, the target only is calculated to have 42 armor, regardless of what armor they are wearing. Thats an increase of roughly 30%.
This would easily account for 170 damage from Eviscerate. (Shame weaken armor doesn't affect holy damage
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sybban
There's also the possibilty that the original poster is making stuff up and/or confused.
Bingley Joe
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I don't know if this was posted yet, but here's how to do it. Sprint and Windborne stack onto each other when you're carrying an object (relic), so you run really really fast. It's a bug, and there's even a video of it being used.
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The milk shake
i dont know if this is relavent but once in a gvg my monk in full forge armor took over 500 dmg from a warrior galrath slash.... didnt realize it was possible for ANY attack to deal so much dmg.........also like to say it was instant death from max to none. He sprinted towards me, ranger had him crippled but he still ran faster than i did, and then splat instant death, WTF happened???
Arathorn5000
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Originally Posted by kunt0r
I don't know if this was posted yet, but here's how to do it. Sprint and Windborne stack onto each other when you're carrying an object (relic), so you run really really fast. It's a bug, and there's even a video of it being used.
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EDIT: just found that video. Wow, gotta be a bug, the guy was moving at least 2 or 3 times faster than normal, while holding a relic no less...
One and Two
windborne isnt a stance, so it stacks.
with windborne and dodge, you go 177% normal speed.
with windborne and normal 25% boost, 166%
sprint/other skills alone will go 125%
at least, mathematically
with windborne and dodge, you go 177% normal speed.
with windborne and normal 25% boost, 166%
sprint/other skills alone will go 125%
at least, mathematically