Question About Ascending?
Sbadboy85
When u ascend i know u go to 20 no matter what lvl u are but lets say your a lvl 1 your go to lvl 20 but will u get 20 skill points for going to 20?
Wolvenbear
When you beat the doppleganger you get 50,000 exp as a mission reward. Most of the time this is enough for anyone not already lvl 20 to reach lvl 20. And yes, you'll get all the attribute/skill points for those levels.
....and no I really don't think a level 1-10 (even with Drok's armor) would survive. The dopple hits pretty hard.
....and no I really don't think a level 1-10 (even with Drok's armor) would survive. The dopple hits pretty hard.
Mavrik
The dopple is your mirror, he uses what you use... I think (only beat him once) that he is at your lv to with the same states... I could be wrong. But yeah... most people are lv 15-18 by the time they hit the desert already though I do see (and was myself) lv 20 a bit to. And since 15000 exp is all thats needed to get a skill point after lv 20, thats 3 skill points for beating your mirror.
Beramee
On my 4th char, I beat the dopple at lvl 10.. was hard but i did it, and he is lvl 20.. with same skills.
you get 50,000 exp.. so I only went to lvl 16 :P
you get 50,000 exp.. so I only went to lvl 16 :P
ttujc
yeah, the only thing he mirrors is your skills. a lvl 1 would die in a single hit tho...
Claymore
Yes he only mirrors your skills, he uses a bow for ranged attacks and usually a axe for melee, not really a mirror of your char more of a mirror of skills.
boxterduke
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Originally Posted by Sbadboy85
When u ascend i know u go to 20 no matter what lvl u are but lets say your a lvl 1 your go to lvl 20 but will u get 20 skill points for going to 20?
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sledgeunderhill
Additionally, as far as I can tell, the mirror somehow has enough attribute points to support full damage with a bow and with an axe, as well as a mimic of your own attribute point distribution.
Not really a mirror IMHO.
Not really a mirror IMHO.
The New Guy
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Originally Posted by boxterduke
They changed this ages ago, you do not go to 20 anymore. You get 50k xp
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But I think it was lastweek when I saw a lvl 2 in the dessert...I mean don't you need a really really good runner for that?? And lvl 2??? don't you have to do the mission and don't you get 1000xp for every mission?? how is this possible??? lol can anyone explain this?
melbo
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Originally Posted by The New Guy
This is true. They did this so people who are being run there will stop getting to level 20 from lvl 1-14.
But I think it was lastweek when I saw a lvl 2 in the dessert...I mean don't you need a really really good runner for that?? And lvl 2??? don't you have to do the mission and don't you get 1000xp for every mission?? how is this possible??? lol can anyone explain this? |
The New Guy
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Originally Posted by melbo
Maybe he didn't do the missions yet
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melbo
Oh, I forgot about the searing mission...good question!
Shattered Self
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Originally Posted by sledgeunderhill
Additionally, as far as I can tell, the mirror somehow has enough attribute points to support full damage with a bow and with an axe, as well as a mimic of your own attribute point distribution.
Not really a mirror IMHO. |
Shattered Self
Actually, a necromancer could probably beat their doppelganger at fairly low levels if they stocked up on useless life sacrifice skills on the way there, especially if the mirror opens with Awaken the Blood & Demonic Flesh.
A good lineup would be:
Awaken the Blood
Demonic Flesh
Dark Aura
Dark Fury*
Offering of Blood*
Enfeebling Blood
Malaise
*skills that are difficult to acquire before fighting your mirror
A good lineup would be:
Awaken the Blood
Demonic Flesh
Dark Aura
Dark Fury*
Offering of Blood*
Enfeebling Blood
Malaise
*skills that are difficult to acquire before fighting your mirror
User Name
the doppelganger is not your mirror, he is your shadow.
also...you could quite easily take him out with a low level ranger(bring all spirits and watch him cast) a necromancer(bring all sacrifice skills and stand there and watch him suicide) and as a monk(run a 55 build)...I don't know how difficult it would be as a mesmer, ele, or warrior though
also...you could quite easily take him out with a low level ranger(bring all spirits and watch him cast) a necromancer(bring all sacrifice skills and stand there and watch him suicide) and as a monk(run a 55 build)...I don't know how difficult it would be as a mesmer, ele, or warrior though
sledgeunderhill
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Originally Posted by Shattered Self
Actually, a necromancer could probably beat their doppelganger at fairly low levels if they stocked up on useless life sacrifice skills on the way there, especially if the mirror opens with Awaken the Blood & Demonic Flesh.
A good lineup would be: Awaken the Blood Demonic Flesh Dark Aura Dark Fury* Offering of Blood* Enfeebling Blood Malaise *skills that are difficult to acquire before fighting your mirror |
When I ascended my necro, I carried much of the same list. Granted, the mirror did hurt themselves significantly with the sacrifice spells, I found that the best way to augment the killing was by bringing hex breaker and backfire. I cast hex breaker prior to entering the mission, and backfired the mirror immediately.
The mirror did eventually kill itself against backfire and sacrificing. However, it did not cast all the sacrificing skills in a chain, like I'd hoped. The fight lasted about 30-40 seconds, much longer than I'd wanted, meaning that I had to backfire again.
There are threads covering builds showing what works and doesn't work against the mirror.
eddycurrents
When I ascended my necro a couple weeks ago I had a b*tch of a time, and I followed the standard advice of bringing all sacrifice spells, useless self buffs, and using backfire. I think they improved the AI, because the doppel barely used any spells and didn't use any buffs.
He always got his backfire off before me so I couldn't steal life back without killing myself. If I brought life siphon or vampire gaze he would use it first and kill me even faster. If I ran around he pegged me with his bow, even through walls.
What finally worked was backfire + chaos storm since the AI is too dumb to move out of it. Still, it took me several minutes and I barely survived because his bow outranged me and hit me through walls.
That mission is the stupidest of the lot IMO. There is no skill involved, you just have to find the right build that exploits the weaknesses of the AI: the AI is faster than you but too dumb to move out of AoE spells or hold off casting against backfire.
I thought of one other possibility: bring a sword and shield and slug it out toe-to-toe. Your shield should give you an armor advantage. I didn't have one to test this out though... and I think all high damage weapons have a mastery requirement so that wouldn't help anyone but warriors. So you are stuck with a low damage weapon and shield... ugh.
He always got his backfire off before me so I couldn't steal life back without killing myself. If I brought life siphon or vampire gaze he would use it first and kill me even faster. If I ran around he pegged me with his bow, even through walls.
What finally worked was backfire + chaos storm since the AI is too dumb to move out of it. Still, it took me several minutes and I barely survived because his bow outranged me and hit me through walls.
That mission is the stupidest of the lot IMO. There is no skill involved, you just have to find the right build that exploits the weaknesses of the AI: the AI is faster than you but too dumb to move out of AoE spells or hold off casting against backfire.
I thought of one other possibility: bring a sword and shield and slug it out toe-to-toe. Your shield should give you an armor advantage. I didn't have one to test this out though... and I think all high damage weapons have a mastery requirement so that wouldn't help anyone but warriors. So you are stuck with a low damage weapon and shield... ugh.
Arturo02
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the doppelganger is not your mirror, he is your shadow.
also...you could quite easily take him out with a low level ranger(bring all spirits and watch him cast) a necromancer(bring all sacrifice skills and stand there and watch him suicide) and as a monk(run a 55 build)...I don't know how difficult it would be as a mesmer, ele, or warrior though |
Just one way of many.
Alone)
Worth 7 levels.
Arturo02
Stop looking at me Alone!!!
Alone)
GAH! you're looking at me!
crobarr
a warrior is easy. remove ALL skills, have a sword and shield equiped., run up to him, slash/hack until dead - about 12-14 seconds.
Cartoonhero
ele isnt so bad if you bring meteor and run under it too right after you cast it, because now he runs out from under it sometimes. i filled the rest of the slots with attunments and enchantments, and he spent most of his time casting them, he got fire storm off once, and i just moved from under it. he went down in about 20seconds. i did have to heal myself once, but if you're and e/mo, this isnt too bad.
Rico Carridan
I believe the record for beating the Dopple is level 3 or level 4, with, I would guess, a necro or mesmer.
Rico
Rico
funbun
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Originally Posted by The New Guy
This is true. They did this so people who are being run there will stop getting to level 20 from lvl 1-14.
But I think it was lastweek when I saw a lvl 2 in the dessert...I mean don't you need a really really good runner for that?? And lvl 2??? don't you have to do the mission and don't you get 1000xp for every mission?? how is this possible??? lol can anyone explain this? |
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A saw a lvl 14 monk ascend. He said it was a tie, but got credit for the kill. He only got to lvl 18 from it. So he was just as pissed as I was.