Yesterday I met in Tombs very arrogant high ranked (9+) group. What did we get after our lose ? Only disrespect and verbal humiliation (we were not running any FOTM build).
But what annoyed me more was the fact that they used us for HoH jump (letting one survive, waiting till the announcement and then kill him).
Seriously, what point has HoH jumping and what is your opinion about it ? I have disrespect for people doing that.
HoH jumping
Maagus
Makkert
If there was no chance of winning, i'd suggest the last person that is alive to zone out next time if they play a game like this.
This is the world upside down. First we had runners. Now this bs, which holds up on your playtime.
This is the world upside down. First we had runners. Now this bs, which holds up on your playtime.
FrogDevourer
HoH jumping is exploiting a flawed system to save time and effort. It's not disrespectful, and you have the option to d/c to end the game.
Taunting the opponent before the fight is a good way to upset him and to distract him. Granted, it's cheap trick of the mind.
Insulting comments after a won/lost fight are stupid and bad. Personally I see ten "gg" (good game) for every bashing comment. If the game wasn't good, silence is your best option.
Taunting the opponent before the fight is a good way to upset him and to distract him. Granted, it's cheap trick of the mind.
Insulting comments after a won/lost fight are stupid and bad. Personally I see ten "gg" (good game) for every bashing comment. If the game wasn't good, silence is your best option.
smatt
Does this jumping method actually work? A group I've been in have tried it and we just proceeded to the next round as normal.
Vlad Bane
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Originally Posted by Maagus
Yesterday I met in Tombs very arrogant high ranked (9+) group. What did we get after our lose ? Only disrespect and verbal humiliation (we were not running any FOTM build).
But what annoyed me more was the fact that they used us for HoH jump (letting one survive, waiting till the announcement and then kill him). Seriously, what point has HoH jumping and what is your opinion about it ? I have disrespect for people doing that. |
Maagus
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Originally Posted by FrogDevourer
HoH jumping is exploiting a flawed system to save time and effort. It's not disrespectful, and you have the option to d/c to end the game.
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Tijger
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Originally Posted by Vlad Bane
This happens in a lot of competetive games, though I must admit IMHO the GW community has steadily got worse since release. I don't know if it's just a percentage of the community but I hardly ever saw anything like what goes on now in the WPE or the following betas but now I see it all the time in threads like this and in all of the pvp areas.
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Makkert
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Originally Posted by Maagus
True but disconnecting means another meeting in district and making the group again = waste of our time only because of someone else.
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you have all the time in the world in teamchat to talk.
so just agree that the player that is alive to zone out.
the team will loose, and zone out toghether.
then contact the player that left, and the team is complete again.
shouldn't be that much of a problem?
greetings,
Makk.
Ollj
they want sigils. not fame, i can understand.
blame the person that does not leave.
blame the person that does not leave.
FrogDevourer
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Originally Posted by Maagus
True but disconnecting means another meeting in district and making the group again = waste of our time only because of someone else.
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Maagus
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Originally Posted by Makkert
I'm sure you can figure it out with your team.
you have all the time in the world in teamchat to talk. so just agree that the player that is alive to zone out. the team will loose, and zone out toghether. then contact the player that left, and the team is complete again. shouldn't be that much of a problem? greetings, Makk. |
But still, in a matter of principal - I don´t lose the battle but I am forced to give up (leave prematurely) if I don´t want the other team to abuse us. And I don´t think that PvP should be about preventive disconnecting but about fighting till the last breath
Only then the winning team gets respect for winning and can be possibly remembered as a good one. On the other hand, the truth is that this is based only on personal feelings.
Vermilion Okeanos
I think the point is... those guys are jerks/asses.
If I got the power to send them to serve jail time, I would do it.
I don't care about early trash talk, I don't care they jump to HoH... but making fun of the losing team are unjust.
If I got the power to send them to serve jail time, I would do it.
I don't care about early trash talk, I don't care they jump to HoH... but making fun of the losing team are unjust.
Calnaion Blackhawk
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Originally Posted by FrogDevourer
HoH jumping is exploiting a flawed system to save time and effort. It's not disrespectful, and you have the option to d/c to end the game.
Taunting the opponent before the fight is a good way to upset him and to distract him. Granted, it's cheap trick of the mind. Insulting comments after a won/lost fight are stupid and bad. Personally I see ten "gg" (good game) for every bashing comment. If the game wasn't good, silence is your best option. |
Ishamael Sedai
Here is the point of view from someone 3 out of 4 times does not attempt to HoH jump. I put together competitive teams although usually not the most dominating teams during the night. Still my teams are capable to compete with and beat the dominating teams. It can get very frustrating later in the night if we have not made & won hoh (or at least had a respectable showing or here lately made it but lost because of 1 or more d/c'ing). This is frustration is multiplied when we beat teams during the night to later see them holding hoh. So partly out of frustration & partly out of wanting to save time sometimes my teams attempt to hoh jump. When I do I don't mean it to be mean to the team I'm doing it to since it doesn't really have much to do with them but with our team playing in halls. A good way to get a team doing it back is to sacrifice 3 minutes of your time (perhaps have your players get up & get a drink or something) while you are waiting & then quite the game.
Theus
Best idea for the harrasment is to make sure to turn off all chat when going in.
It's a hell of alot better than dealing some RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOwit.
It's a hell of alot better than dealing some RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOwit.
zehly
I've never heard of this before. What is "the message" that you are referring to? I think it's pretty messed up. I know that sometimes in a heated Competition battle when they are jerks, I'll zone before they kill me so they don't get my faction.
aLittle Bird
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True but disconnecting means another meeting in district and making the group again = waste of our time only because of someone else.
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Jumping to HoH has been around for a long time, it is lame and boring to do so pretty much every group I have ever been in simply can't be bothered to do it as as getting HoH is fun, but standing around waiting for 10mins to jump is not.
Personally, I would rather play than stand and watch.
ghostly Priestess
I agree jumping has been around since the beginning. just leave and regroup in a dist. it takes about 5 seconds longer than if you died
xLogain
pardon my noobishness but what's jumping?
cookiehoarder
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Originally Posted by Maagus
Yesterday I met in Tombs very arrogant high ranked (9+) group. What did we get after our lose ? Only disrespect and verbal humiliation (we were not running any FOTM build).
But what annoyed me more was the fact that they used us for HoH jump (letting one survive, waiting till the announcement and then kill him). Seriously, what point has HoH jumping and what is your opinion about it ? I have disrespect for people doing that. |
Thank GOD for being able to log out
smurfhunter
omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg no one ever try hall jumping again. plz. leave it for builds that need to jump.. like... 
nvm
but please dont hall jump again. ever. seriously the last times i was doing it instead of jumping all we do is team up agianst the OTHER team thats jumping. meaning we always fight these badass guilds... like prav. rifts. you name it. so... dont jump!
oh and about insults... they are so much fun. youre gonna be on teh other side of the table about them when you actually beat that stinky r9+ pug/guild.
nvm
but please dont hall jump again. ever. seriously the last times i was doing it instead of jumping all we do is team up agianst the OTHER team thats jumping. meaning we always fight these badass guilds... like prav. rifts. you name it. so... dont jump!
oh and about insults... they are so much fun. youre gonna be on teh other side of the table about them when you actually beat that stinky r9+ pug/guild.
Iceman2
what is HoH jumping
smurfhunter
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what is HoH jumping
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Iceman2
i already have their protection, now, whats the big secret
smurfhunter
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i already have their protection, now, whats the big secret
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and an olympic gold medal
and a posthumous congressional award.
Red Locust
Dont kill the last person till the HoH has been won. There. I said it. No need to be a jerk about keeping it secret.
smurfhunter
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Dont kill the last person till the HoH has been won. There. I said it. No need to be a jerk about keeping it secret.
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AeroLion
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Originally Posted by Red Locust
Dont kill the last person till the HoH has been won. There. I said it. No need to be a jerk about keeping it secret.
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Dzan
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Originally Posted by AeroLion
What's the advantage of doing this? Forgive me for being a newb about this but I've never been in Tombs before.
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Timelessblur
I would say there is an easy way to remove the jumping. Only teams in the vault should be allowed to go into HoH. That or they have to be in the maps shortly before the hall. Make it impossible to jump before you get to those nice golden maps. Best you can do is jump to one of those
Sendai
i tought this was fixed a while ago.
cookiehoarder
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Originally Posted by Iceman2
i already have their protection, now, whats the big secret
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I would say there is an easy way to remove the jumping. Only teams in the vault should be allowed to go into HoH. That or they have to be in the maps shortly before the hall. Make it impossible to jump before you get to those nice golden maps. Best you can do is jump to one of those
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Big_L
Trying to jump is just stupid. You'll get much more fame if you fight through all the maps, and you'll gain more experience with the different type of maps. Especially if you are playing in a PUG. Use the maps leading up to the hall as a way to play together more effectively.
smurfhunter
heehee ive caught you boys hall jumping before 
ohhh wait youre trying to stop people from doing it so that you can... ah gotcha
ohhh wait youre trying to stop people from doing it so that you can... ah gotcha
KvanCetre
This has been happening for months...
Alone)
Has happened to me. First time there, and last time for now. Sadly. Very sad. Anyways, other than that kind of jump, we've jumped from killing the ghosts straight to HoH before. Was very lucky I guess. No parties could be found
smurfhunter
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Has happened to me. First time there, and last time for now. Sadly. Very sad. Anyways, other than that kind of jump, we've jumped from killing the ghosts straight to HoH before. Was very lucky I guess. No parties could be found
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KuTeBaka
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thats exactly what i mean. and i when i said i "caught" someone its like this.. you kill the ghostlies right as the message comes up, and you have a pretty darn good chance of getting a spot in the halls. problem is, mr imtoogoodtoplayinothermaps guild also kills them at the message, so instead of going to the hoh the computer simply pairs you up in uw (duh). which is why when i used to try that, all i would face in uw was like rifts or some other badass guild. its not worth it anymore because too many people do it. waste of time unless you find a really inactive hour.
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smurfhunter
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Originally Posted by KuTeBaka
no, hall jumping is when you surround the last person on uw and dont kill him until the message. If you waited around the unworthy, you would get to hall at 0 morale which is horrible for the team.
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does it even matter? morale is only good for things recharging your skills and stuff like that. hoh is just too short for the dp effect to even matter. usually.
and i would only try and jump with an eoe group or some other special holding build, where it honestly doesnt matter.
mortalis doleo
you fight in a battle in the tombs, and make sure you win right after it says "john doe's team has won the battle in the hall of heroes, they keep the favor for europe (i wish)". that way you might be inserted in the HOH battle.
BUT DONT DO IT, IT SUCKS!
i can tell you i have never done it, and i hate people who do, especiallt the ones who brag about it...
BUT DONT DO IT, IT SUCKS!
i can tell you i have never done it, and i hate people who do, especiallt the ones who brag about it...