how loyal have you been
have u backstabbed your guild?
Discuss how to get Loyal Guild Members into a guild?
Loyalty Among Guild?
Divine Elemental
Da Cebuano
I've cheated on my guild a couple of times, she'll never find out I'm banging 2 hot blonde guilds. Oh and I've stabbed this one guild in the back too! it was so fun that I also stabbed him in the front.
Anyway, people will stay loyal if alls well, use maslow's triangle to get guild members more loyal.
Anyway, people will stay loyal if alls well, use maslow's triangle to get guild members more loyal.
Divine Elemental
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Originally Posted by Da Cebuano
I've cheated on my guild a couple of times, she'll never find out I'm banging 2 hot blonde guilds. Oh and I've stabbed this one guild in the back too! it was so fun that I also stabbed him in the front.
Anyway, people will stay loyal if alls well, use maslow's triangle to get guild members more loyal. |
u should get in it, and maybe thats why u aint leaving RH?bebe anyways
Loyalty differs among people how can u explain why u backstabed?
killer toast
The way I keep my guild loyal is i have contests for ectos and stuff and they have to answer is on ts so its like killing two birds with one stone 
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Divine Elemental
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Originally Posted by killer toast
The way I keep my guild loyal is i have contests for ectos and stuff and they have to answer is on ts so its like killing two birds with one stone
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Money will solve loyalty?
killer toast
Yep because people are greedy I offer my friendship but they laugh and leave guild .
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Divine Elemental
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Yep because people are greedy I offer my friendship but they laugh and leave guild
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that meas comparison?
poor people to rich people
poor people have nothing but their friendship and time to offer
while rich peopel just pay their guild members?
Targach
I'm Guild Leader and it is hard to find loyal members. Personally I don't like people who think they are the best of the best and make fun about new people that they are stuck in piken square. I had some of those and I'm glad they left because I was a:"Stupid guild leader who only plays GvG when he is on." I rather have some fun active people with rank 0 who can put a smile on my face then people bragging about that they unlocked all skills and Demand an GvG. Loyal members are members who like you for you and not because your a higher rank. I haver like 30 members in my guild and we have a blast of a time when some are online. So I think loyal to your guild starts if people like their supiriors.
Well thats jut my idea
Well thats jut my idea
Takeko Nakano
It is difficult to find decent guilders often, because so many people join a guild immediately after they start the game. Also lots of players are very immature - observe how many will leave in PvE if they have to respawn once. The best thing to do is recruit your friends, even if they have a guild 
Da Cebuano
unfortunately, my guild is currently in shambles atm, I would join the higher tier top competitive guilds but I wont of their benefit atm, simply due to I can't get my mic to work due to soundcard problems. My mainboard onboard sound isn't letting my mic + headphone output anything either, if only I could get my mic to work, I'd be joining top competition guilds. If I join competition guilds, I'll just become another guy on the side, can't really sync properly when you have to type to say anything or can't feedback to your teammate.
ANyway, Loyalty is usually person based, they either have it to dont, it helps that people get along on the guild, having people who joke alot and have a good environment usually helps form bonds to the guild.
ANyway, Loyalty is usually person based, they either have it to dont, it helps that people get along on the guild, having people who joke alot and have a good environment usually helps form bonds to the guild.
Targach
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ANyway, Loyalty is usually person based, they either have it to dont.
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Sister Rosette
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Well people who where at the start of the guild are in my opinion far more loyal than those guys who join a guild because their rank is 80. No offence to people who want to join a high ranked guild but watch what happens if they that guild loose that rank...
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have been with them just over 6 months now. I've brought all
my friends (irl and online) into the guild and it helps keep you
rooted and active.
Unfortunately, every now and then I lapse in judgement and give
an invite to someone and they come in and immediately demand
items/money/officer status.
I recruited someone the other day and they told (yes, told) me
I was going to buy their mesmer the 15k nobles armor since the
characters name was Lady Althea or some retarded crap.
Divine Elemental
Loyalty among guilds turn out as Loyalty Among friends?
so friends and money shall help make ur guild loyal..
ive seen so far guilds that have inactive members dont last long even tho theyre friends and all ><
Loyalty?ive seen too small guilds stick together am i wrong?
so friends and money shall help make ur guild loyal..
ive seen so far guilds that have inactive members dont last long even tho theyre friends and all ><
Loyalty?ive seen too small guilds stick together am i wrong?
Alone)
Build trust with people first. We have a small guild, had a few ups and downs, but we are doing just fine. Hoping to get more trustworthy people to join.
Lews
My guild is very small, and yet we stick togethere alright. We don't have any of our good people leave, and we do alot of stuff together.
Kai Nui
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so what ur saying?
Money will solve loyalty? |
Personally I talk on Team Speak a lot with my guild, no one can really backstab. No one is promoted, most of the guild officers know each other in real life. I play GW with them a lot though on TS and after a while of playing, they just promoted me because I was always wanting to do stuff and helping out. Only promote people when you know they don't have intentions of becoming an officer, but are just a good person doing good. I'm not saying to go around being good and expecting stuff from people, it's not gonna happen. But if you're just good, occasionally good things will happen. I am not going to promote good people either, I'm going to promote people who are friends, skilled, are active, and like playing as a team and is constructive during losses. Just don't have officers until you get to know someone well enough. You can't be backstabbed if there are no officers.
Makkert
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Anyway, people will stay loyal if alls well, use maslow's triangle to get guild members more loyal.
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Makkert
Dumeka
Don't depend on money or given items and help the whole time.
As one of the posters already mentioned, its actually character based.
Some people are like that and some people just don't have a clue about what a guild means.
Some stay with you no matter what and follows you even in new mmos and other comes in, takes what they want and leaves you after one day/week.
So don't make the big mistake to provide eveyone who comes in immediatly with lots of gold and 15k armor cause it won't help your issue.
I have members that are still with me since the betas (one since the second WPE) and some newer.
We have many inactives at the moment, some because of life issues like deployment while others for other reasons.
Though from the new members that joined lately I had around 10 invited and only 3 remaining.
Around 4 - 5 left after one day already even I told them everything about what we do in our guild and how we are doing it (timezones, international guild, events/meetings and so on...) and 1 - 2 left us after 3 days to a week.
Actually everyone of us if they find something that they don't need for their characters, they mostly asking if someone else in the guild needs it and if this is the case they mostly just giving the sword, staff, whatever to the guildie.
I have very friendly, nice and good persons in my guild and I'm proud to be so lucky to have them!
As about the others that immediatly leave (guild jumpers), I just think its more their loss not mine!
I might lose 100gold for the invitation but they will end up to jump through various guilds the whole time and make no friends anywhere in most of the cases.
As one of the posters already mentioned, its actually character based.
Some people are like that and some people just don't have a clue about what a guild means.
Some stay with you no matter what and follows you even in new mmos and other comes in, takes what they want and leaves you after one day/week.
So don't make the big mistake to provide eveyone who comes in immediatly with lots of gold and 15k armor cause it won't help your issue.
I have members that are still with me since the betas (one since the second WPE) and some newer.
We have many inactives at the moment, some because of life issues like deployment while others for other reasons.
Though from the new members that joined lately I had around 10 invited and only 3 remaining.
Around 4 - 5 left after one day already even I told them everything about what we do in our guild and how we are doing it (timezones, international guild, events/meetings and so on...) and 1 - 2 left us after 3 days to a week.
Actually everyone of us if they find something that they don't need for their characters, they mostly asking if someone else in the guild needs it and if this is the case they mostly just giving the sword, staff, whatever to the guildie.
I have very friendly, nice and good persons in my guild and I'm proud to be so lucky to have them!
As about the others that immediatly leave (guild jumpers), I just think its more their loss not mine!
I might lose 100gold for the invitation but they will end up to jump through various guilds the whole time and make no friends anywhere in most of the cases.
Nawn Centz
I let a guild member borrow 80k, he won't pay me back.
Seiko
I take in guild only after interview in TeamSpeak
We don't give money to recruits
We don't help in PvE
We take nothing from our members
We demand precise performance of all orders
We can help only advice
If the recruit will hold on on such conditions he becomes the full member of guild, and itself will learn to obtain money alone, to pass quests and to open skills. We don't like weak people whom it is necessary to look after.
Unreliable people leave guild. Who has remained, finds at us friends. Russians appreciate friendship more than any money.
We don't give money to recruits
We don't help in PvE
We take nothing from our members
We demand precise performance of all orders
We can help only advice
If the recruit will hold on on such conditions he becomes the full member of guild, and itself will learn to obtain money alone, to pass quests and to open skills. We don't like weak people whom it is necessary to look after.
Unreliable people leave guild. Who has remained, finds at us friends. Russians appreciate friendship more than any money.
Lexar
An important port of being a leader that holds a group together, is having to do less popular things from time to time, like for example, kick inactive people. It's very demotivating to see people on the list who are never online. Right now in our guild we have a good 20 people who are all active. If you create good ambiance you will earn people's loyalty. it's not something you can demand, after all, it's a game. I have members in the guild who got offered to go to The Valandor and other high ranked guilds, but they sticked with organised spam, because they made a lot of friends here. Loyalty is earned by acting respectfull as well. The right sort of people you want to keep are the people that will notice and appreciate if you really put an effort in keeping the gang together. As a leader, or officer you should always try to make sure there's as little disagreement in the guild as possible, and act fair and friendly to people. Noblesse oblige, as the french saying goes, and though officers and leaders aren't nobility, in a microcosmos like what a guild is in that aspect, it does work like that a little.
Sofonisba
What is important in the formation of a guild is a small core group of people who have trust with one another. This small group will slowly grow.
As guild leader, you need to have a strong support group in your officers. That means that when you have to make the tough decisions, you can go to them for input, and you will be more assured of a good decision.
Do not promote someone to officer just because they whine and try to convince you with words that they deserve it somehow. If they have to explain to you why, they are not worthy and don't care about the guild other than the power they might seek from it. That is the anti-definition of loyalty.
NONE of the officers we have ever promoted have EVER asked to be an officer. That makes them better for the position, because they have already demonstrated their team-player mentality. Because of this recruitment method, usually many other players have partied with the new officers, and realize their worth, and have no argument about it.
As guild leader, you need to have a strong support group in your officers. That means that when you have to make the tough decisions, you can go to them for input, and you will be more assured of a good decision.
Do not promote someone to officer just because they whine and try to convince you with words that they deserve it somehow. If they have to explain to you why, they are not worthy and don't care about the guild other than the power they might seek from it. That is the anti-definition of loyalty.
NONE of the officers we have ever promoted have EVER asked to be an officer. That makes them better for the position, because they have already demonstrated their team-player mentality. Because of this recruitment method, usually many other players have partied with the new officers, and realize their worth, and have no argument about it.
franning
I think if you make your member happy they will stay, doesn't mean giving out ecto's or gold. And limiting the number of members helps too.
Yichi
Our guild does what we can to help our members, but we dont give things away to new members. we will help them get something aak materials or a better weapon or help them with any missions/pvp they might wanna do.
We are organized and do many things together as a guild, thus ending most of the monotany of having to rely on PUG's for most everything or grabbing hench. if someone in our guild needs help, or is bored and wants to go exploring, or even just hang out in grotto or wherever, then usually there will always be a few guildmates to do whatever.
I think the key to having loyal guildmates it to come together as a guild. wether it be a pve guild or a pvp only guild. organize events and times to do things as a guild. if someone makes a good suggestion, then if you got enough people for it, then head out and do it. Help each other when needed. if you have a guildie thats stuck at say thirsty river, then if he asks for help, grab your guildies and go help your guildmate
We are organized and do many things together as a guild, thus ending most of the monotany of having to rely on PUG's for most everything or grabbing hench. if someone in our guild needs help, or is bored and wants to go exploring, or even just hang out in grotto or wherever, then usually there will always be a few guildmates to do whatever.
I think the key to having loyal guildmates it to come together as a guild. wether it be a pve guild or a pvp only guild. organize events and times to do things as a guild. if someone makes a good suggestion, then if you got enough people for it, then head out and do it. Help each other when needed. if you have a guildie thats stuck at say thirsty river, then if he asks for help, grab your guildies and go help your guildmate
Darkest Dawn
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Originally Posted by Sister Rosette
Agreed. I came into my guild shortly after it's conception and
have been with them just over 6 months now. I've brought all my friends (irl and online) into the guild and it helps keep you rooted and active. Unfortunately, every now and then I lapse in judgement and give an invite to someone and they come in and immediately demand items/money/officer status. I recruited someone the other day and they told (yes, told) me I was going to buy their mesmer the 15k nobles armor since the characters name was Lady Althea or some retarded crap. |
I had one case where this kid joined up and told me he was home sick from school. I rolled out the red carpet for him and he told me our guild sounded nice, and that was good because he had left a number of other guilds for not being helpful.
Hehe, I should have saw it coming! He left us that day!
That said, most of the original folks are still around, but we anr not quite as active at the present with work/school/family/etc.... I hope it picks up because we have had some good times together with GvG, and working on quests together.
Me and the other officers, as well as our leader, try to be friendly, as well as helpful to all we invite to our guild. Our goal is to have a family like atmosphere. I really promote guild chat, even when we are all doing our own quests and things as good communication is essential if the guild will last and prosper.