Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos
No more machinegun Ranger (although it was only a minor drawback in my opinion). Woot for .75 sec skill delay like caster! ... ?
Nah, still works...kinda. For pure damage maybe you'd be better off with Quickshot now, I don't know since I don't actually have it. Either way its not possible to continually gun people down like it was before. Ok I suppose, the nerf could have been worse.
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Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos
I love the new skill monitor...
Yup, ranger interruping is t3h s3x
30 Sep 2005 at 09:24 - 4
energy gain is the same, but energy stealing is less... half my current skillbar has been made useless, including signet of weariness! like they needed to discourage mesmers any more, they've now removed the coolness of denying energy.
i'm also happy they've made water magic more powerful, i can't sell those green water items  but something tells me ice golems and ice imps were annoying enough already, now they cast rust easily and the ice attacks are better
i am at a loss for what to do with my mesmer now, i was REALLY enjoying energy denial in PvE. the gained energy means nothing, all i want to do is take theirs away from them. i can't believe they halved this effect..... grumble
side note: i don't wana play mesmer any more, my first and favourite character just became my least favourite, wth
30 Sep 2005 at 10:13 - 5
I dont like it that they nerved hex breaker ...
Always loved that skill, gotta go back to remove hex -.-
30 Sep 2005 at 12:34 - 6
It's not as if mesmers were overpopular. However, I guess the preemptively nerfed them because they feared they will become, as some have predicted, the FotM.
But with such nerfs... I'm glad I'm playing my secondary; cause I'd be screwed.
Kinetic armor is much, much more interesting, now! I can't imagine how my ultimate tank earth would have fared with such upgrades! (Order of enchants: Earth Attunement, Kinetic Armor, Arcane Echo, Obsidian Flesh, Armor of Earth)
30 Sep 2005 at 13:49 - 7
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Originally Posted by Dont Look At My
I dont like it that they nerved hex breaker ...
Always loved that skill, gotta go back to remove hex -.-
Nah, just use the now insanely powerful Holy Veil. Cast it and remove it. 5 mana. Cools down every 10 seconds. Unlinked to any attribute. Or just leave it on yourself. For one pip of energy regen, you gain pretty much solid protection from all dangerous hexes. (Backfire and Diversion become six second casts and Arcane Conundrum and Migrane become four second casts on you, Necromancer hexes already have long casting times anyway, and you'll also be reasonably defended from the new hydromancers.)
cmb
30 Sep 2005 at 15:36 - 8
I like the fact interrupt rangers have been nerfed as especially in the hoh it'l require a little more skill than before (still think it should be changed to a one on one but still)
Water eles.. they needed more damage and buffing up as before they were only good for relic runs or combining with other eles. I hope to see more of them. 
30 Sep 2005 at 15:49 - 9
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Originally Posted by octaviancmb
Nah, just use the now insanely powerful Holy Veil. Cast it and remove it. 5 mana. Cools down every 10 seconds. Unlinked to any attribute. Or just leave it on yourself. For one pip of energy regen, you gain pretty much solid protection from all dangerous hexes. (Backfire and Diversion become six second casts and Arcane Conundrum and Migrane become four second casts on you, Necromancer hexes already have long casting times anyway, and you'll also be reasonably defended from the new hydromancers.)
cmb
why powerfull now????
did they change something on it?
because normally Holy Veil is a crappy skill.
2x longer cast time of hexes suckz, you get them anyways.
30 Sep 2005 at 15:51 - 10
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Originally Posted by Guizzy
It's not as if mesmers were overpopular. However, I guess the preemptively nerfed them because they feared they will become, as some have predicted, the FotM.
But with such nerfs... I'm glad I'm playing my secondary; cause I'd be screwed.
Kinetic armor is much, much more interesting, now! I can't imagine how my ultimate tank earth would have fared with such upgrades! (Order of enchants: Earth Attunement, Kinetic Armor, Arcane Echo, Obsidian Flesh, Armor of Earth)
and where stays the energy management ??? -.-
30 Sep 2005 at 15:53 - 11
Stays in not having to cast much more than a stone daggers here an there to keep Kinetic up. T'was a PvE tank, you see...
With Kinetic's new added strength, it'd be able to tank an insane amount of mob (with them doing like 1 damage). I mean, +80 armor!
30 Sep 2005 at 15:59 - 12
*Calls for the new FARM abuse*
It's sad but it is like that.
Well my farm char has always been an earth ele with:
armor of earth+kinetic. you had like +120 armor.
and it worked fine, noone knew the build, now as kinetic got overpowered up, people will go for it too.
As there are only 2options: low health or normal health with ubaa armor
very risky vs easy one. Which one do you think will people take?
30 Sep 2005 at 16:11 - 13
Balthazaurs Aura is now a 2 second cast time with a 25 second recharge. I can still solo farm with my monk, but I have to use more skill and timing to get it right.
The damage on Dust trap was almost cut in half. I have no idea why they would do this, it already cost 25 energy to set the damn trap, now its useless since it doesn't deal damage, I'll just use throw dirt for blinding and set extra traps that cost less energy than 25 from now on.
30 Sep 2005 at 18:54 - 14
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Originally Posted by Dont Look At My
why powerfull now????
did they change something on it?
because normally Holy Veil is a crappy skill.
2x longer cast time of hexes suckz, you get them anyways.
Because now when you remove the enchantment it removes a hex from you....plus it only costs 5 energy and 1 sec to cast.
30 Sep 2005 at 18:58 - 15
First off all I have to say is HOLY CRAP what an update! I have to go back and study this some, because now, some skills may be replaced. I love seeing the target enemy's skill being charged! Last night as a ranger I could see when the warriors were trying to use their healing signet, and canceled them everytime before they could finish casting! The further you were the more likely they were to finish the casting so I learned to get point blank to interrupt. Here are other skills you all will find may affect your current characters for better or worse and a description:
Searing Heat - Removed Exhaustion.- This is now a great skill!
Glyph of Renewal – Now instantly recharges next spell.- - Ummm...if I'm reading this right, now an ele can have "echo" and a different secondary! WOW!!!
Ice Spikes, Frozen Burst, Shard Storm, Deep Freeze, and Ice Prison – Fixed a bug that prevented these spells from slowing more than 50%- I never thought my spells worekd properly and left water Ele for this reason!
Divine Intervention – Decreased Energy cost to 5- Can you say vengence/Divine Intervention monks?
Live Vicariously – Decreased Energy cost to 5. - Custom made now for a warrior! Just use it like you do Endure Pain!
Holy Veil – Decreased Energy cost to 5; decreased casting time to 1 second; increased recharge to 10; added additional effect of removing a Hex when it expires. - When expires or when removed?....if when removed, this could be a useful skill for running!
Balthazar's Aura – Increased casting time to 2 seconds; increased recharge to 25. - Ouch!, this will make farming so try not to attract too many at a time until you get it down.
Endure Pain – Increased duration to 7..18 seconds.-A great warrior skill is now ever better!
The skill monitor now uses animations to indicate when a skill completes successfully or is interrupted during casting. - As stated above, this is the best new FIX that they have added!
When you cast a Hex or Enchantment that stays on a character and deals damage or performs healing, you can now see floating numbers showing the result of that damage or healing.
When your pet damages another character, you can now see floating numbers showing that damage.
When you cast a spell that boosts or drains the Energy of another character, you can now see floating numbers showing the Energy change. - Now we mesmers, necros, and monks can see exactly what we are doing! I can now see the results of Mark of pain, Conjure Phantasm, Spiteful spirit....etc...about time! I'd love to see some pictures showing what these skills look like in use!
Healer henchmen now prioritize healing party allies whose death would result in mission failure.- Nice, now you don't NEED real monks for thunderkeep or other missions!
30 Sep 2005 at 20:19 - 16
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Originally Posted by ChoKILLate[FDG]
Searing Heat - Removed Exhaustion.- This is now a great skill!
How is it a great skill? o_O
30 damage per second, only burning on the 5th second, 5 seconds total. With such a horribly slow (30 seconds) recharge, if I were going to use this...
I'd grab Rodgort's Invocation instead. Instant damage over a large area, and it recharges in 15. Rodgort's never caused exhaustion, and it only takes 3 seconds to cast now.
As it were, neither skill is very impressive.
01 Oct 2005 at 05:18 - 17
The changes to Energy Denial make it actually take skill and timing now instead of just spamming it as much as possible. Now a Denial Mesmer has to actually be good. It's pretty obvious that Energy Denial was heavily overpowered before. Now it's still a strong tactic but not ludicrously powerful like it was.
01 Oct 2005 at 10:22 - 18
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Originally Posted by ChoKILLate[FDG]
Because now when you remove the enchantment it removes a hex from you....plus it only costs 5 energy and 1 sec to cast.
I can't play at the moment, so I didn't know what change is about.
And yes It is a very useful skill now. If I had the place in my skillbar I would put in Holy Veil, Hex Breaker and Remove Hex.
you're likeley to not be affected by hexes =D
but as they nerfed hex breaker, you will have to use remove hex sometime -.-
03 Oct 2005 at 14:13 - 19
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How is it a great skill? o_O
30 damage per second, only burning on the 5th second, 5 seconds total. With such a horribly slow (30 seconds) recharge, if I were going to use this...
I'd grab Rodgort's Invocation instead. Instant damage over a large area, and it recharges in 15. Rodgort's never caused exhaustion, and it only takes 3 seconds to cast now.
As it were, neither skill is very impressive.
On stationary groups (the same groups you would use meteor shower on) this does 150 damage, then they are set on fire fore 3 seconds...but yeah, great is a bit of an over statement given some of the other fire skills.
03 Oct 2005 at 17:29 - 20
I've noticed a lot of eles using Rogdorts now, they must really like that new casting time.
Holy Veil has potential, you set one up and maintain and wait till hexed. You don't like the hex cast, drop the enchantment to remove the hex and put it back up. Not quite hex breaker, but any mo/x can utilize it.
Riposte and Deadly Riposte... wow, talk about spike damage when you throw them both up at once. I love these two before, but now they take down aatxe a lot faster.
Dolyak Signet, used it before for the knockdown mainly (abyssals, what a joke), but now EVERY warrior should be carrying this if they're going to be tanking.
I'm quite tempted to make a hydromancer, wanted to before but making a monk got priority.
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