So F**k all of you warriors and your IWAY build. If ANet is going to abuse the nerf-bat they should atleast be FAIR with it....NERF IWAY.
the REAL reason rangers suck inside!!! *RANT*
Pillz_veritas
The reason why Rangers suck is because whenver you see a ranger being "good" you go to friging Anet and tell them to nerf the rangers. And the majority of those people doing it are..... Warriors....... Hmm..... Lets think of the ways Anet has Nerfed Warriors, Oh there DIDNT. The reason why Rangers suck is because all of you f#&$g warriors are imature little brats that cry at anet once you see a ranger not sucking So F**k all of you warriors and your IWAY build. If ANet is going to abuse the nerf-bat they should atleast be FAIR with it....
NERF IWAY.
So F**k all of you warriors and your IWAY build. If ANet is going to abuse the nerf-bat they should atleast be FAIR with it....NERF IWAY.
jasondragon
Wow. Playing GW a little too much?
Cartoonhero
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aLittle Bird
rangers suck ? I guess I missed that memo. Or are you talking about PvE ?
Dark Splitter
i kinda agree i get called noob in pvp when i kill warriors and i think most warriors are little 12 year olds (sorry if ur not) its cuz we use a combo of good skills that make use win my mate can take monks out with a couple of hits with his ranger and u have to admit rangers rule in uw as a trapping team
Sanji
*sad violin music*
Spirits were unbalanced and were deforming the environment.
Ranger interupts became far too spammable from the buff they got on Thursday, August 25 and needed to be rebalanced.
You're not a victim of anything other than probably not being good at this game if you can't cope with balance changes.
Spirits were unbalanced and were deforming the environment.
Ranger interupts became far too spammable from the buff they got on Thursday, August 25 and needed to be rebalanced.
You're not a victim of anything other than probably not being good at this game if you can't cope with balance changes.
Tactical-Dillusions
Rangers must suck because yesterday my ranger got kicked from a group in Granite Citadel in preference for a warrior.
I was a member of that group for ten minutes and they kicked me just when we were about to leave for defend Droknars quest.
I am not mad though because i know my ranger could have owned every member of that team if it came down to it.
I was a member of that group for ten minutes and they kicked me just when we were about to leave for defend Droknars quest.
I am not mad though because i know my ranger could have owned every member of that team if it came down to it.
carnivore
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*sad violin music*
Spirits were unbalanced and were deforming the environment. Ranger interupts became far too spammable from the buff they got on Thursday, August 25 and needed to be rebalanced. You're not a victim of anything other than probably not being good at this game if you can't cope with balance changes. |
chaos dragoon
you here that?its the saddest song on the worlds smallest violin.and i dont see what is bad about rangers,yet.they just stopped them from being uber powerful.(yes i do play a ranger)
Timelessblur
I would like to point out to you that warriors did get a nerf done to them. Also I did see some minor problems from rangers spaming the interupts and doing insane spike damage that pretty much went around all types or protection spells. Personly I think you post is more noobish than the people you are calling noobs. As for what I play. Lets see Warrior on the list. El all types, Elmo smiter, healer prot monk. Some ranger. a little necro. Mesmer. Of that list I play monk and El the best. Rangers need a slight nerf done to them.
entropy
slight? Yes spirit spam was overpowered but rangers ARE the MOST nerfed class in guildwars by far. Interupts weren't nerfed badly at all though they still work really well .
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Pevil Lihatuh
meh, I find everyone is biased towards my ranger equally. Why? I'm not a healing monk 
If there aren't 3 healing monks for every 1 non-monk, people get biased against you.
My Ranger still plays fine. Try out a new build or a new char.
If there aren't 3 healing monks for every 1 non-monk, people get biased against you.My Ranger still plays fine. Try out a new build or a new char.
Ollj
nerf mending. its so uber!
MarkyX
Rangers don't suck.
As a hardcore ranger, I *wanted* the nerfs to happen. Spirit spamming was BS, and the interrupting ranger spike was very retarded.
Now those who are actually good with rangers will use them. Those who are bad with them will complain.
As a hardcore ranger, I *wanted* the nerfs to happen. Spirit spamming was BS, and the interrupting ranger spike was very retarded.
Now those who are actually good with rangers will use them. Those who are bad with them will complain.
Mumblyfish
Changes to Ranger skills since retail start:
Two months of buffing the already formidable Ranger class. Not huge buffs, but still. Spirits are still broken and run rampant after a few Guilds (obligatory KCHS whoring) decide to abuse Oath Shot, Fertile Season and Nature's Renewal.
Spirits get major, much deserved nerfage. Some, like Quickening Zephyr, are still bloody amazing but harder to keep alive. First Ranger nerfs of retail. Underused skills get buffs across the board, and interrupt bow attacks are now even faster.
More buffs! For pets, but still. Buffs!
Underused skills get a boost (Read the Wind now a bloody good preperation), pets get stronger still, only the interrupt bow attacks get nerfed, along with Debilitating Shot (Mesmers got it worse, but they had it coming, too). On the 30th, Dust Trap was fixed.
Looking down that list, I see one hell of a lot of buffing going on. Yes, there's some nerfs, but anyone would admit Spirit Spamming was horrendously overpowering, as was the discovery of spamming interrupts for damage. What I mean is, go RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO yourself (hooray, filtering). Now, to rest my typin' hands.
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BUFF: Improved pets so that they have the equivalent of armor infusions. (Only relevant to silly PvE players, but a buff nonetheless.)
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BUFF: Fixed wards, spirits, and wells so that players who are resurrected within the area of effect receive that spell's effect after resurrection.
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BUFF: Increased pets' run speed by 20%; increased pets' armor to 80 at level 20.
BUFF: Decreased Crippling Shot recharge time to 1 second; decreased duration of Cripple to 8 seconds. BUFF: Decreased Distracting Shot attack time from .75 to .5 seconds. ARGUABLE: Decreased Punishing Shot attack time from .75 to .5 seconds; increased recharge time to 8 seconds. BUFF: Decreased Concussion Shot attack time from .75 to .5 seconds NERF: Nature's Renewal modified to no longer remove all Hexes and Enchantments when cast; now doubles the Energy degeneration for maintained Enchantments. NERF: Reduced Fertile Season duration to 15..45 seconds. NERF: Increased Quickening Zephyr Energy cost to 25; reduced duration to 15..45 seconds. NERF: The effects of Spirits no longer work on other Spirits (example: Fertile Season no longer adds Health and armor to other Spirits); also, when a Spirit is cast, it kills all other allied Spirits of the same type within its range |
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BUFF: Decreased Called Shot Energy to 5 and recharge to 3 seconds.
BUFF: Increased Point Blank Shot damage to 10..25. BUFF: Increased Read the Wind duration to 24 seconds. BUFF: Decreased Escape recharge to 30 seconds. BUFF: Decreased Lightning Reflexes recharge to 45 seconds. BUFF: Decreased Dust Trap damage to 10..25; now pulses 5 times. (Addendum: Dust Trap borked, powerful). BUFF: Dodge duration now scales 5..11 seconds. BUFF: Pet Attacks - Each attack functions just like a Shout. NERF: Increased Debilitating Shot recharge to 10 seconds. NERF: Interrupt Bow Attacks – Added a delay after skill is used before another can be used. |
Looking down that list, I see one hell of a lot of buffing going on. Yes, there's some nerfs, but anyone would admit Spirit Spamming was horrendously overpowering, as was the discovery of spamming interrupts for damage. What I mean is, go RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO yourself (hooray, filtering). Now, to rest my typin' hands.
=HT=Ingram
The simple solultion to Iway, is not to bunch up an easy to kill group. after all they are wanting to have their pets killed normally... Focus on the players...
When I see a massive warrior group with 8 pets and a necro. first thing I do is get away from the group and try to locate the necro... Out it goes, then nail the rest of them. Problem is most of the time people don't know whats going on. Iway was a legitimate counter to a healing ball. genearlly speaking a good spiker can nail the necro away from the group ina few seconds... just wait for a sacrifice cast and NAIL him. Bing Bang. The rest of the group should be focusing on the players. not the pets... Gee pets can't res right? Der!! lol anyways. its not an impossible build to counter, you just need to recognize it right away and take action. this is not a common concept though. Oh someone is doing something different... ahhh lets camp and see what happens. AHHH dead!! After the first I will avenge you casts get the heck out of there... and regroup on a spread out fashion. Focus fire on Players only. and Bing. you win... well A better chance then jsut standing there getting plumited by warriors and crippiling effects...
When I see a massive warrior group with 8 pets and a necro. first thing I do is get away from the group and try to locate the necro... Out it goes, then nail the rest of them. Problem is most of the time people don't know whats going on. Iway was a legitimate counter to a healing ball. genearlly speaking a good spiker can nail the necro away from the group ina few seconds... just wait for a sacrifice cast and NAIL him. Bing Bang. The rest of the group should be focusing on the players. not the pets... Gee pets can't res right? Der!! lol anyways. its not an impossible build to counter, you just need to recognize it right away and take action. this is not a common concept though. Oh someone is doing something different... ahhh lets camp and see what happens. AHHH dead!! After the first I will avenge you casts get the heck out of there... and regroup on a spread out fashion. Focus fire on Players only. and Bing. you win... well A better chance then jsut standing there getting plumited by warriors and crippiling effects...
carnivore
well IF rangers were the most nerfed or even the most buffed, it wouldnt be surprising. rangers are(imo) the jack of all trades. designed to possibly do anything. so keeping all the aspects of what they can and cant do balanced within the class itself, it makes it even harder to keep the class balanced with all the other classes.
anyway yea RtW is an awesome prep now. was kinda ridiculous before. does it stack with FW?
anyway yea RtW is an awesome prep now. was kinda ridiculous before. does it stack with FW?
Wasteland Squidget
I get the feeling that this guy played a beta ranger.
200 damage + Silence FTW!
200 damage + Silence FTW!
Teh Azman
Everyone, just ignore him...
My formula to making fun of the idiots on these boards: Don't respond, have the OP try to bump it a week later and start cussing at us for not responding, have a mod close it, have the OP freak out at the mod in another post, have the OP banned.
Then if you feel the need to laugh at him, do it via email/AIM
My formula to making fun of the idiots on these boards: Don't respond, have the OP try to bump it a week later and start cussing at us for not responding, have a mod close it, have the OP freak out at the mod in another post, have the OP banned.
Then if you feel the need to laugh at him, do it via email/AIM
PieXags
The only reason any class sucks is because you've got a shitty player controlling it.
MarkyX
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Everyone, just ignore him...
My formula to making fun of the idiots on these boards: Don't respond, have the OP try to bump it a week later and start cussing at us for not responding, have a mod close it, have the OP freak out at the mod in another post, have the OP banned. Then if you feel the need to laugh at him, do it via email/AIM |
I like an audience
pintpointfive
You're an attention RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO.
Pillz_veritas
Ahh I am Happy I recieved Responces, Although what i was trying to do was to get people to realise, that "anything" that wins gets nerfed. Iway and interupt rangers were equaly devestating, so y did one get nerfed and the other not?
Mumblyfish
"Interrupt" Rangers were overpowered, simple as. They could spike colossal amounts of damage, with low recharge times, while also interrupting their target. An unforseen issue with the buffing of the various interrupt skills. "I Will Avenge You!" builds, however, are one-trick ponies that are easily countered by bringing your everyday anti-Warrior measures. Whereas an interrupt spiking group could take down even the most prepared guilds, IWAY is a sub-par build that doesn't stand a chance against any team worth their salt.
smurfhunter
on a side note, iway teams did pretty good against ranger spiking.
just kind of ironic how you beat most teams at the expense of losing to the dumb ones
just kind of ironic how you beat most teams at the expense of losing to the dumb ones
duanstar
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If you honestly complain about IWAY, you really need to think hard about your PvP strategies.
Pillz_veritas
PVP Strategies? I DONT PvP.... But my PvE ranger doesnt like what happened to it.
Snowman
I dont know why you say rangers suck if you ask for IWAY to be nerfed, thats a warrior skill.
I do agree that something should be done about IWAY.. but nothing too drastic, just make it an elite skill... which I think it should be anyway.
I do agree that something should be done about IWAY.. but nothing too drastic, just make it an elite skill... which I think it should be anyway.
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I dont know why you say rangers suck if you ask for IWAY to be nerfed, thats a warrior skill.
I do agree that something should be done about IWAY.. but nothing too drastic, just make it an elite skill... which I think it should be anyway. |
Vindexus
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The reason why Rangers suck is because whenver you see a ranger being "good" you go to friging Anet and tell them to nerf the rangers. And the majority of those people doing it are..... Warriors....... Hmm..... Lets think of the ways Anet has Nerfed Warriors, Oh there DIDNT. The reason why Rangers suck is because all of you f#&$g warriors are imature little brats that cry at anet once you see a ranger not sucking
So F**k all of you warriors and your IWAY build. If ANet is going to abuse the nerf-bat they should atleast be FAIR with it....NERF IWAY. |
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Rangers do not suck.
Pandanslesdents
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Eltargrim
This is why you should have to be licensed to use the internet 
smurfhunter
yknow this was a fun thing to try; i went to american dis 1, found an iway (blind invite) pug within 2 minutes, and within the next 10 minutes had already beaten 3 teams.
is it just me or does this like totally shame both the groups in tombs (that we beat) and those r6+ groups that take about 1 hour to start and never get passed scarred earth?
sad, sad, sad
is it just me or does this like totally shame both the groups in tombs (that we beat) and those r6+ groups that take about 1 hour to start and never get passed scarred earth?
sad, sad, sad
KvanCetre
Remember Smurf... there are PUGs who can't beat the ghost team
Alone)
Smurfhunter, you probably got lucky going against some noob teams. Anyways. Rangers can still pwn me, but I've never complained once. However, yes, I know it sucks to have the rangers nerfed, because I use them and like them a lot too.
Don't know why Anet nerfed it. Should have just done a public reply like:
"All teh warriors da nUb."
Becase I thought it was already balanced in the first place, it just all depends on how you use your build, and hope you don't come across a build that counters your own.
Anyways. Rangers can still pwn me, but I've never complained once. However, yes, I know it sucks to have the rangers nerfed, because I use them and like them a lot too.Don't know why Anet nerfed it. Should have just done a public reply like:
"All teh warriors da nUb."
Becase I thought it was already balanced in the first place, it just all depends on how you use your build, and hope you don't come across a build that counters your own.
smurfhunter
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oh and about that iway pug.... its not like i did this for a few days and im telling you my best experience. no, i had like 30 mins to waste so i hung around id 1 for a bit and then tried the american dis 1 thing. s a d
oh and remember... no one nerfs a class, they nerf the skills. so what if one particular build of one class got nerfed... just find another. sheesh
Mandy Memory
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The reason why Rangers suck is because whenver you see a ranger being "good" you go to friging Anet and tell them to nerf the rangers. And the majority of those people doing it are..... Warriors....... Hmm..... Lets think of the ways Anet has Nerfed Warriors, Oh there DIDNT. The reason why Rangers suck is because all of you f#&$g warriors are imature little brats that cry at anet once you see a ranger not sucking
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healing signet moved from strength
stregnth bonus lowered to 1%
just to name a few
all the classes go through there nerf phases
stelliosm
Rangers needed to be tamed down a bit.
There is no reason that they should have been allowed to shoot that many arrows that quickly using a series of 4 or so skills.
Rangers where shooting faster than their ranger could pull back to get an arrow.
But still, the delay they added is like .5 of a second, and rangers still own with exactly the same build, they just down own as fast as they used to.
Iway has been fixed imo. The ooV necro can no longer hide, take down their 2 necros that now have to be in the battle field instead of hiding in their spawn location and the wars r pretty easy to take out.
There is no reason that they should have been allowed to shoot that many arrows that quickly using a series of 4 or so skills.
Rangers where shooting faster than their ranger could pull back to get an arrow.
But still, the delay they added is like .5 of a second, and rangers still own with exactly the same build, they just down own as fast as they used to.
Iway has been fixed imo. The ooV necro can no longer hide, take down their 2 necros that now have to be in the battle field instead of hiding in their spawn location and the wars r pretty easy to take out.
Xue Yi Liang
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