Iway
Marticus
What skills are involved for the w/r build of IWAY?
pagansaint
IWAY
Charm Animal
Sprint
Res Signet
<Insert 4 attack/attack support skills of choice>
Charm Animal
Sprint
Res Signet
<Insert 4 attack/attack support skills of choice>
tafy69
Ok heres my build
1. Tigers Fury
2. Eviscerate (Elite)
3. Axe Rake
4. (Spirit of Choice here)
5. IWAY
6. Charm animal
7. Sprint or warriors cunning
8. Res Signet
Weapon: Zealous pvp axe (whatever)
If u run sword or hammer u most likely get ur ass kicked off the group, stick to these skills and u will be fine, oh and get 16 Axe mastery!
1. Tigers Fury
2. Eviscerate (Elite)
3. Axe Rake
4. (Spirit of Choice here)
5. IWAY
6. Charm animal
7. Sprint or warriors cunning
8. Res Signet
Weapon: Zealous pvp axe (whatever)
If u run sword or hammer u most likely get ur ass kicked off the group, stick to these skills and u will be fine, oh and get 16 Axe mastery!
Dont Look At My
^^ *Closed* ^^
I'm sure it will be soon, there are so many stupid threads about that stupid build, so go and have a look around.
I'm sure it will be soon, there are so many stupid threads about that stupid build, so go and have a look around.
tafy69
lol u cant just close a thread because you dont like iway...
I know he shulda used a search button but nvm eh
I know he shulda used a search button but nvm eh
NightOwl
Quote:
Originally Posted by tafy69
1. Tigers Fury
Drop TF, it doesn't stack with IWAY anymore, and can be replaced with other things that are more useful.
Aetherfox
you should also have these skills
disrupting chop
distracting blow
at least one of them, preferably both. since your team doesn't have shutdown, you have to rely on brute force disruption. it's especially crucial to break aegis chains : relying on warriors cunning to break through aegis isn't something i would especially rely on. if there's a warrior with 2 disrupts chopping at each spellcaster it's a pretty good chance you can stop them getting off the truly deadly spells.
spec barbed trap as well if you're carrying a wilderness type spirit. barbed trap is your only real chance at a protective snare for your necro(s) and it's great for popping one into the middle of a healing ball.
disrupting chop
distracting blow
at least one of them, preferably both. since your team doesn't have shutdown, you have to rely on brute force disruption. it's especially crucial to break aegis chains : relying on warriors cunning to break through aegis isn't something i would especially rely on. if there's a warrior with 2 disrupts chopping at each spellcaster it's a pretty good chance you can stop them getting off the truly deadly spells.
spec barbed trap as well if you're carrying a wilderness type spirit. barbed trap is your only real chance at a protective snare for your necro(s) and it's great for popping one into the middle of a healing ball.
Dont Look At My
^^ *Closed* ^^
Let's hope it get's soon by our Search Button Addict :-)
nice title anyways. USE THE FUKCIN SEARCH BUTTON, FOR GODS SAKE.
Let's hope it get's soon by our Search Button Addict :-)
nice title anyways. USE THE FUKCIN SEARCH BUTTON, FOR GODS SAKE.
smurfhunter
lol why are you trying to close this board, you arent an admin. you just look like an idiot, especially on your second attempt.
LiL_RiP05
i know this is a REALLY noob question but....anyone mind telling me wtf "IWAY" is? ty and my sincere apologies for the question
Hookecho
iway = I Will Avenge You!
smurfhunter
enter tombs. beat the unworthy. the first team you meet will most likely be an iway team. some obvious signs: 6 pets, names like "IWAY OWNS YOU", and a general lack of intelligence on the other team.
Guizzy
IWAY is a way of sacrificing a whole team and their pets for the ego of a few warriors who want to feel like teh ownz.
It is annoying because it's so prevalent that every team will have to take skills that are good against it, and are weaker against other teams as a result.
Example: More anti-IWAY skills = less anti-Ranger-Spike skills = less balanced groups
You are not proving anything by being IWAY; you will not get further than the 3rd round. But you will have others bring along skills that are otherwise best left off their bar.
It's also one of the main reason rank and fame doesn't mean anything. An IWAY team will be able to kill most uncoordinated pick-up groups, and as such accumulate rank. Uncoordinated pick-up group members, while loosing, are actually learning about the game, and they are getting better every game. But they are not gaining any rank for it. IWAY players are not learning anything, but they do gain rank. That's justice for you!
It is annoying because it's so prevalent that every team will have to take skills that are good against it, and are weaker against other teams as a result.
Example: More anti-IWAY skills = less anti-Ranger-Spike skills = less balanced groups
You are not proving anything by being IWAY; you will not get further than the 3rd round. But you will have others bring along skills that are otherwise best left off their bar.
It's also one of the main reason rank and fame doesn't mean anything. An IWAY team will be able to kill most uncoordinated pick-up groups, and as such accumulate rank. Uncoordinated pick-up group members, while loosing, are actually learning about the game, and they are getting better every game. But they are not gaining any rank for it. IWAY players are not learning anything, but they do gain rank. That's justice for you!
cookiehoarder
You're asking for a flame buddy
Well here's the truth about IWAY
IT SUCKS AND IT GETS NEWBIES TO RANK 6 IN A FEW WEEKS. NOW MY HARD EARNED WOLF MEANS NOTHING!! WOOT!!
ps. i own iway
Well here's the truth about IWAY
IT SUCKS AND IT GETS NEWBIES TO RANK 6 IN A FEW WEEKS. NOW MY HARD EARNED WOLF MEANS NOTHING!! WOOT!!
ps. i own iway
Nefastaru
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guizzy
IWAY is a way of sacrificing a whole team and their pets for the ego of a few warriors who want to feel like teh ownz.
It is annoying because it's so prevalent that every team will have to take skills that are good against it, and are weaker against other teams as a result.
Example: More anti-IWAY skills = less anti-Ranger-Spike skills = less balanced groups
You are not proving anything by being IWAY; you will not get further than the 3rd round. But you will have others bring along skills that are otherwise best left off their bar.
It's also one of the main reason rank and fame doesn't mean anything. An IWAY team will be able to kill most uncoordinated pick-up groups, and as such accumulate rank. Uncoordinated pick-up group members, while loosing, are actually learning about the game, and they are getting better every game. But they are not gaining any rank for it. IWAY players are not learning anything, but they do gain rank. That's justice for you! Amazing that my IWAY variation group wins halls almost daily, seeing as you won't make it past the third round right? So we also shouldn't be able to hold 4-7 times either?
As for those of you who think rank/fame means nothing anymore, how many of you used spirit spamming/smite/FOC/Flare/Sacrificing/rangerspike/trapper etc etc etc to gain your fame? Those builds are all just as bad as IWAY.
I will admit most IWAY users are pug groups and most suck, BUT that doesn't mean a team using some sort of IWAY is NUB. We only run 4 W/R and have never lost to another IWAY group let alone most other FOTM builds. Actually 95% of our losses come in the hall, and mainly because of holding groups. Of course we're the only guild running our build and I'm sure that plays in. We of course have to bring spells to counter certain teams IE trappers wich IMO are lamer than IWAY. Thats pretty much prevalent in any team. You see who's holding halls, what they are running, and you adjust your build to suit.
Grow up and quit flaming every person that posts asking about IWAY. I'm sick of seeing all these people who think they are such L33T pvpers crying daily across every board on the net. We get the point...... You don't like IWAY.
Everyone has to start somewhere. IWAY is a good way for new players to get into tombs, see the maps, learn the strategies for them and become the future rank 9 pvpers that take our places. What's wrong are you guys scared of a little rank competition?
See you all in the hall
~Nef~
It is annoying because it's so prevalent that every team will have to take skills that are good against it, and are weaker against other teams as a result.
Example: More anti-IWAY skills = less anti-Ranger-Spike skills = less balanced groups
You are not proving anything by being IWAY; you will not get further than the 3rd round. But you will have others bring along skills that are otherwise best left off their bar.
It's also one of the main reason rank and fame doesn't mean anything. An IWAY team will be able to kill most uncoordinated pick-up groups, and as such accumulate rank. Uncoordinated pick-up group members, while loosing, are actually learning about the game, and they are getting better every game. But they are not gaining any rank for it. IWAY players are not learning anything, but they do gain rank. That's justice for you! Amazing that my IWAY variation group wins halls almost daily, seeing as you won't make it past the third round right? So we also shouldn't be able to hold 4-7 times either?
As for those of you who think rank/fame means nothing anymore, how many of you used spirit spamming/smite/FOC/Flare/Sacrificing/rangerspike/trapper etc etc etc to gain your fame? Those builds are all just as bad as IWAY.
I will admit most IWAY users are pug groups and most suck, BUT that doesn't mean a team using some sort of IWAY is NUB. We only run 4 W/R and have never lost to another IWAY group let alone most other FOTM builds. Actually 95% of our losses come in the hall, and mainly because of holding groups. Of course we're the only guild running our build and I'm sure that plays in. We of course have to bring spells to counter certain teams IE trappers wich IMO are lamer than IWAY. Thats pretty much prevalent in any team. You see who's holding halls, what they are running, and you adjust your build to suit.
Grow up and quit flaming every person that posts asking about IWAY. I'm sick of seeing all these people who think they are such L33T pvpers crying daily across every board on the net. We get the point...... You don't like IWAY.
Everyone has to start somewhere. IWAY is a good way for new players to get into tombs, see the maps, learn the strategies for them and become the future rank 9 pvpers that take our places. What's wrong are you guys scared of a little rank competition?
See you all in the hall
~Nef~
Alone)
People really have to search up for these things instead of posting it up again...and again...and again... and....
again.
and again.
Search can be your friend.
again.
and again.
Search can be your friend.
cookiehoarder
Not running IWAY is your best friend though
Guizzy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefastaru
Grow up and quit flaming every person that posts asking about IWAY. I'm sick of seeing all these people who think they are such L33T pvpers crying daily across every board on the net. We get the point...... You don't like IWAY.
First of all, I'm not flaming anyone. I'm telling honestly what IWAY is from my perspective.
You are not giving any answers as to why rank farmed by IWAYs doesn't break the rank system. No, I've never used any FotM, and for such have low rank. Not because I'm a bad player, mind you. My build is very sound (if a little weird), and most people don't want to try playing with a Water Ele, so I get left off good groups and have been playing with PUGs. I have been playing very efficiently on the few occasions Guild Groups wanted me. But I do not get rank. Why? Because I'm not FotM.
Don't get me wrong; I hate Ranger Spikes just as well, but they at least require some coordination.
And I was generalizing, when I was telling about not going past 3rd round. I was generalizing because for the person not even knowing what IWAY is, it's very improbable that he will ever get past 3rd round with it.
You are not giving any answers as to why rank farmed by IWAYs doesn't break the rank system. No, I've never used any FotM, and for such have low rank. Not because I'm a bad player, mind you. My build is very sound (if a little weird), and most people don't want to try playing with a Water Ele, so I get left off good groups and have been playing with PUGs. I have been playing very efficiently on the few occasions Guild Groups wanted me. But I do not get rank. Why? Because I'm not FotM.
Don't get me wrong; I hate Ranger Spikes just as well, but they at least require some coordination.
And I was generalizing, when I was telling about not going past 3rd round. I was generalizing because for the person not even knowing what IWAY is, it's very improbable that he will ever get past 3rd round with it.
cookiehoarder
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefastaru
Amazing that my IWAY variation group wins halls almost daily, seeing as you won't make it past the third round right? So we also shouldn't be able to hold 4-7 times either?
As for those of you who think rank/fame means nothing anymore, how many of you used spirit spamming/smite/FOC/Flare/Sacrificing/rangerspike/trapper etc etc etc to gain your fame? Those builds are all just as bad as IWAY.
I will admit most IWAY users are pug groups and most suck, BUT that doesn't mean a team using some sort of IWAY is NUB. We only run 4 W/R and have never lost to another IWAY group let alone most other FOTM builds. Actually 95% of our losses come in the hall, and mainly because of holding groups. Of course we're the only guild running our build and I'm sure that plays in. We of course have to bring spells to counter certain teams IE trappers wich IMO are lamer than IWAY. Thats pretty much prevalent in any team. You see who's holding halls, what they are running, and you adjust your build to suit.
Grow up and quit flaming every person that posts asking about IWAY. I'm sick of seeing all these people who think they are such L33T pvpers crying daily across every board on the net. We get the point...... You don't like IWAY.
Everyone has to start somewhere. IWAY is a good way for new players to get into tombs, see the maps, learn the strategies for them and become the future rank 9 pvpers that take our places. What's wrong are you guys scared of a little rank competition?
See you all in the hall
~Nef~ No, see you're wrong there. You say it's a good place to start, well it's the shi&&&&& place to start. They see they can farm fame off of newbie groups so they do it some more. WHAT DO THEY LEARN? To let their pet die and then press one button? I don't call that a good place to start.
As for those of you who think rank/fame means nothing anymore, how many of you used spirit spamming/smite/FOC/Flare/Sacrificing/rangerspike/trapper etc etc etc to gain your fame? Those builds are all just as bad as IWAY.
I will admit most IWAY users are pug groups and most suck, BUT that doesn't mean a team using some sort of IWAY is NUB. We only run 4 W/R and have never lost to another IWAY group let alone most other FOTM builds. Actually 95% of our losses come in the hall, and mainly because of holding groups. Of course we're the only guild running our build and I'm sure that plays in. We of course have to bring spells to counter certain teams IE trappers wich IMO are lamer than IWAY. Thats pretty much prevalent in any team. You see who's holding halls, what they are running, and you adjust your build to suit.
Grow up and quit flaming every person that posts asking about IWAY. I'm sick of seeing all these people who think they are such L33T pvpers crying daily across every board on the net. We get the point...... You don't like IWAY.
Everyone has to start somewhere. IWAY is a good way for new players to get into tombs, see the maps, learn the strategies for them and become the future rank 9 pvpers that take our places. What's wrong are you guys scared of a little rank competition?
See you all in the hall
~Nef~ No, see you're wrong there. You say it's a good place to start, well it's the shi&&&&& place to start. They see they can farm fame off of newbie groups so they do it some more. WHAT DO THEY LEARN? To let their pet die and then press one button? I don't call that a good place to start.
Nefastaru
IWAY doesn't break the rank system for the same reasons other FOTM builds don't break it. Winning is winning no matter what. While you say the teams losing to IWAY are learning, I see it the other way around. While the losing team may be learning counters to IWAY. The winning teams are learning the maps, Learning the strategies involved with each of the massively run builds in halls, learning the current builds being played, learning how to read builds by the characters involved, etc. I think it's fair to say both sides learn from it.
It's quite true most pickup groups don't get very far, wich is why ya should really try to find a steady group. As far as water ele's are concerned, you got yourself the next big ELE build going there. Water ele's after the recent buffing are really great to have around.
Don't get me wrong we don't always run our variation. We have a few balanced builds we run as well as a massive degen build but, for general pickup and ease of use, we run our 4 man IWAY most often. Theres just something fun in rolling over trash talking jerks in tombs when they think they know what your running only to find out they have no clue.
~Nef~
It's quite true most pickup groups don't get very far, wich is why ya should really try to find a steady group. As far as water ele's are concerned, you got yourself the next big ELE build going there. Water ele's after the recent buffing are really great to have around.
Don't get me wrong we don't always run our variation. We have a few balanced builds we run as well as a massive degen build but, for general pickup and ease of use, we run our 4 man IWAY most often. Theres just something fun in rolling over trash talking jerks in tombs when they think they know what your running only to find out they have no clue.
~Nef~
smurfhunter
rofl @ f t l
ima go make an iway and beat you, just watch.
you joined htr?
ima go make an iway and beat you, just watch.
you joined htr?
Kariston The Swift
I do IWAY when I'm bored and don't feel like actually having to do anything but bash someone in the head iwth an axe. Also I get some good fame from it since all the good groups are asking for Rank 6+ now =/
wsmcasey
I mostly PvE, but I've been playing PvP for the past 2 days and started at 1 fame and got to 65 fame by mostly playing in random IWAY groups. The organized guilds w/teamspeak running IWAY did very very good, and I made it to HOH about 5-10 times. It still requires a certain level of skill to effectively run this type of group imo. The organized groups that call targets, rez quickly, and know the maps will be more successful. About 3 of the unorganized IWAY groups I got in didn't even make it past the ghosts, lol. I certainly don't think that IWAY is the best way by any means, but its a good start for a new PvP'r like me. Since I had more success in random IWAY groups I got a chance to learn some of the higher level maps that I wouldn't have been able to see with most other random groups. Since my guild doesn't really PvP, then I'm an outcast to most PvP'rs that are in PvP guilds. I don't want to join another guild, but I would at least like the chance to enjoy PvP and be successful. If anyone has another strategy to gaining experience, rank, fame, whatever, in a faster way then I would appreciate some input.
Guizzy
The problem with IWAY is that it's a perverse wheel.
New player comes to Tombs. He looks for a group, but since he doesn't have rank or isn't IWAY, he doesn't get picked. He goes into a blind invite PUG, starts and get killed by a IWAY team. He does not get any rank. He will get to be chosen by another blind invite PUG and lose again. He tries a new build, which is the best build ever. He does not get picked by any reasonnable group. He gets into a random PUG and dies anyways.
Making his own group won't help. Experienced players either play in balanced guild groups or in team builds PUGs. He gets some impatient people who spam "Go!" the very second the 8th player is in. He fails, he does not get rank.
See where I'm going? It never ends, unless you have a guild helping you, a lot of time on your hands to convince a good group you're worth it (or to convince good players) or you start playing IWAY (or other FotM).
New player comes to Tombs. He looks for a group, but since he doesn't have rank or isn't IWAY, he doesn't get picked. He goes into a blind invite PUG, starts and get killed by a IWAY team. He does not get any rank. He will get to be chosen by another blind invite PUG and lose again. He tries a new build, which is the best build ever. He does not get picked by any reasonnable group. He gets into a random PUG and dies anyways.
Making his own group won't help. Experienced players either play in balanced guild groups or in team builds PUGs. He gets some impatient people who spam "Go!" the very second the 8th player is in. He fails, he does not get rank.
See where I'm going? It never ends, unless you have a guild helping you, a lot of time on your hands to convince a good group you're worth it (or to convince good players) or you start playing IWAY (or other FotM).
Sister Rosette
It's not all powerful. I tried it with my (now deleted) warrior.
Got into a rank (somethingorother) group that were supposedly
'experts.'
Got paired up against a Ranger trap spike group.
The warriors kept running in, kept getting owned.
Got into a rank (somethingorother) group that were supposedly
'experts.'
Got paired up against a Ranger trap spike group.
The warriors kept running in, kept getting owned.
Guizzy
Of course, it's not all powerful. Yet it has more chances of working than a random PUG, which is almost always the best a character without rank and NOT playing IWAY will manage to get in.
Which means the IWAY will farm Fame by killing the above mentionned random PUGs, and that the non-IWAY player will gain fame at a ridiculously slow rate, which also means he will not be getting into better groups soon.
Which means the IWAY will farm Fame by killing the above mentionned random PUGs, and that the non-IWAY player will gain fame at a ridiculously slow rate, which also means he will not be getting into better groups soon.
HaNzoDaRkStar
Playing the IWAY Build doesnt mean you will Win just because you have a Team Build such as that..IWAY,Trapper,Spike, and so many other Builds out have their highs and lows...It all depends on the players and how they coordinate with eachother...Ive seen IWAY team Own Trappers and Vise Versa...When it comes down to it...The main goal of Competition play is "Teamwork" then Build Structure...If you cant work as a Team then there is really no point in PvPing at all..Unless your just practicing and learning.
Guizzy
Wise words indeed. The problem is that teamplaying groups more often than not ask for a minimum rank, which the newcomer has not. The newcomer IWAY has the specificity of his build going for him... The lone e denial mesmer has what? The power of heart? (HEART!)
HaNzoDaRkStar
I know what you mean and ive seen a players Ask for Rank,Fames, and who knows what...But Seriously i think its selfishness for such a person to excluded others due certain Requirments ..Remember we were all once Beginners our selfs people!!!
Alone)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HaNzoDaRkStar
I know what you mean and ive seen a players Ask for Rank,Fames, and who knows what...But Seriously i think its selfishness for such a person to excluded others due certain Requirments ..Remember we were all once Beginners our selfs people!!!
LIES!!!! There are those who were BORN l33t.
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LIES!!!! There are those who were BORN l33t.
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HaNzoDaRkStar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alone)
LIES!!!! There are those who were BORN l33t.
<end: Sarcasm>
Yeah and im one of the Chosen ones!!!!..While you kids where Playing with G.I. Joe's and Transformers...I had Enjoyment from my IBM 5150 PC!!!!Wahaha
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Yeah and im one of the Chosen ones!!!!..While you kids where Playing with G.I. Joe's and Transformers...I had Enjoyment from my IBM 5150 PC!!!!Wahaha
Zeru
It's funny and really that that practically every single IWAY group doesn't run the most important skill in the build.
Our IWAY setup got nerfed in two ways though. The support guy was so much fun but he simply isn't viable anymore.
Our IWAY setup got nerfed in two ways though. The support guy was so much fun but he simply isn't viable anymore.
tafy69
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeru
It's funny and really that that practically every single IWAY group doesn't run the most important skill in the build.
Our IWAY setup got nerfed in two ways though. The support guy was so much fun but he simply isn't viable anymore. Most iway teams dont run the most important skill in the build? Im guessing nearly all IWAY teams run IWAY and Charm Animal and Res... Or are you talking about a skill more important then these 3?
Our IWAY setup got nerfed in two ways though. The support guy was so much fun but he simply isn't viable anymore. Most iway teams dont run the most important skill in the build? Im guessing nearly all IWAY teams run IWAY and Charm Animal and Res... Or are you talking about a skill more important then these 3?
Earendil
He's probably talking about "Fear me".
I concur on one thing. IWAY gives a beginner a chance to win a few battles. Against other beginners for sure. Yet, do you guys know how hard life is for an unranked beginner in Tombs? Noone takes you without rank and a solid char build, except people like you that cannot even beat the unworthy. You don't really know all the skills and possible builds, since you're a beginner and you keep gathering loss after loss till you simply quit.
Then you can go with an unranked IWAY group. You win one game or two (a morale boost) then you get crushed by a balanced team. Here is where the difference starts. A person with good PvP potential will start to ask himself some questions: What were they running ? Why did we lose ? What skills were there ? He will also see different maps, learn different strategies, maybe learn basic concepts like TS and calling etc. Then he'll start reading forums, testing builds....etc. He will get converted into a potential good player, while without IWAY he would have had little chances.
IWAY is a good entry door for beginners. If they stick to IWAY ...too bad for them. But there will be some that will be able to go past IWAY and turn into the kind of player we want to see in Tombs.
I concur on one thing. IWAY gives a beginner a chance to win a few battles. Against other beginners for sure. Yet, do you guys know how hard life is for an unranked beginner in Tombs? Noone takes you without rank and a solid char build, except people like you that cannot even beat the unworthy. You don't really know all the skills and possible builds, since you're a beginner and you keep gathering loss after loss till you simply quit.
Then you can go with an unranked IWAY group. You win one game or two (a morale boost) then you get crushed by a balanced team. Here is where the difference starts. A person with good PvP potential will start to ask himself some questions: What were they running ? Why did we lose ? What skills were there ? He will also see different maps, learn different strategies, maybe learn basic concepts like TS and calling etc. Then he'll start reading forums, testing builds....etc. He will get converted into a potential good player, while without IWAY he would have had little chances.
IWAY is a good entry door for beginners. If they stick to IWAY ...too bad for them. But there will be some that will be able to go past IWAY and turn into the kind of player we want to see in Tombs.
wsmcasey
Actually, I've seen several people set up a W/R with a pet and think that they have an IWAY build. I would bet that half of the new PvP'rs trying IWAY for the first time don't even know what IWAY stands for. This means they never put IWAY on there skill bar or maybe don't bring a pet because they don't know any better. I does take skill to run a successfully organized IWAY group that can get to HOH. The groups that ARE organized are usually in guilds with ts/vent and they know each other. Most of the random IWAY groups I have joined never ask you any questions and assume that you know what your doing because your profession is W/R.
Yamat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Earendil
IWAY is a good entry door for beginners.
An entry door, not a GOOD entry door, and to Guizzy's point, it's fast becoming (already become?) the ONLY door for beginners.
I PvE to unlock skills for PvP... I want the enjoyment of unlocking the skills rather than buying them with faction. I use faction to unlock runes/upgrades. I don't have a warrior or a necro that is ready for PvP, but I want to PvP. At the moment, unless I can find friends, the only way to get into a PUG for Tombs is IWAY.
This is not good.
I PvE to unlock skills for PvP... I want the enjoyment of unlocking the skills rather than buying them with faction. I use faction to unlock runes/upgrades. I don't have a warrior or a necro that is ready for PvP, but I want to PvP. At the moment, unless I can find friends, the only way to get into a PUG for Tombs is IWAY.
This is not good.