Before you buy this game...

Every fanboy that reads this is gonna flame the hell out of it as soon as I post, but don't bother I probably won't read this. Anyways, these are my complaints with Guild Wars as a whole, so if you're thinking about buying this game, please read...


The games good, the new music is good, the PvP is fun. But all this stuff gets old. It lacks immersion. I beat the game through twice, but was never much into PvP, so that cuts out like half of the experience. So what do they do to fix it??? Release some lame-ass update with two maps and a handful of quests that I beat in ONE NIGHT. whoo-hoo. I played Guild Wars regilously, but it just gets old. Someone will come up with a creative build, and the developers will NERF it. Which totally defeats the whole point of them giving all this customization to people if they're just gonna screw with it after someone does things differently than the way they planned. At this point in the game there's really no sense of accomplishment. I remember when I was 100 or so hours into the game, people used to advertise the fact that they were infused... everywhere you went. Now, no one even cares. 15k armor? I have 5 sets for the two classes I played. Along with 70% of the rest of the game population. Gold weapons were a status symbol for a while, until they made it to where they weren't rare at all, they just required buying a key for a certain chest. And as far as the community goes... get ready to talk about Politics and have a bunch of foreign countries hate on America! In my experience that's what most in-town discussions were about. That are people spamming to buy their ub3r godly blah blah blah. Guild Wars was my first online RPG (not MMO, because it's not a MMO), and it was a fun experience. I assumed however, that it was going to be a continual gameplay experience. Not a game that you finish, then cast aside. Hell, it takes longer to beat any Elder Scrolls game than this. And they're better. Granted you don't get that great the human interaction (although I played through most of the game with Henchman). I just left feeling unfulfilled, and wishing that I had spent my time playing WoW instead.


So feel free to call me a noob, say I'm gay, whatever the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO else you can think of. I'm just stating my opinion. And if you're in love with this game and still play it, that's cool. This isn't intended for you though. The thing is people who still play Guildwars don't feel the same way I do, otherwise they wouldn't be playing. So go farm (until they nerf it) and enjoy that ub3r gold weapon you have (until everyone else gets one from a chest).


BTW, I gave my account away, so there's no reason hating in-game, you won't even be talking to me.

You've thrown out PvP, which is really the core of the game. But other than that, I think what you said may be reasons why the game isn't the best ever, but not great reasons to not buy it. However, I do kind of question Anet's decisions to exclude certain facets from the game, such as repetitive tasks. It is their vision for the game, so what can you do, but I think it is a bit myopic since they have really underestimated the role of status in online gaming. Without regular releases, the current formula seems like it will wear out fairly quickly.

I "kind of" agree (note the "kind of") Gw isnt interesting enuf to keep u playing for an incredably long length of time but it is in terms of gameplay/graphics/pvp etc a high quality game. The updates seem to be pi$$ing many of the players off and things such as farming or repeatedly doing missions which u cant pass bore players

hooray... Bu-Bye now...

I'm still wondering why people like this post about their "great quitting" or crap. I really couldn't give a shit, unless I knew you.

hey hey, cmon pplz, the guys jus givin his opinions

its to warn not players not to buy it. but that's stupid coz if u dont have the game, why would you be on the forum?

btw, nerfs happen in all MMO's.
Yes, even WoW. I guess if you played games like Elder Scrolls, you wouldn't really notice?

"Go hang yourself" (quoted in...respect)

It's funny the things that you don't like I actually do like. Most RPG's have a problem for me in that I don't have unlimited time to play. Maybe 2-3 hours a week. Get's slightly worse in summer slightly better in winter.

Since there are no Uber items and No Uber lvl neccesary I can play a little bit and not feel left behind.


My complaint would be with people who farm/bot etc. Since those kinds of people have an excess of cash, Anet has felt the need to introduce gold sinks into the game such as locked chests and the increased cost to buy skills. I preferred the old system since as a casual player I don't have unlimited funds. (Before you post about how easy it is to make money understand I do salvage everything and am careful with my money so I do have some extra just not tons)

But as we can see to each his own, you need a game with more lvls, items, etc. as you have the time to find and acquire them. Whereas I like the system because I dont have the time.

i would like to play WoW too


but the game costs monthly fees
i hate monthly fees on a game

therefore GuildWars is uber

Why do ppl f-uckin think GW should last forever? even 100 hours is worth the $50.......just don't play as much and u won't get as bored quickly.

I'm not going ot flame you or anything, but I don't think you know what it takes to make these levels, I make maps for other games and I don't know what they use to make these but if it's anything like the editors I use theres alot to do to make the kind of detail they have done, so you have to think, do you want more maps, or do you want really nice looking maps?

GOod for you. What did you expect to happen after this?
Then why are you talking shit? Was it not worth the time? Tell me, how many times did you play a single player RPG?

"(although I played through most of the game with Henchman)"

and hence why you don't enjoy the game cunninghambone. A multiplayer game is best enjoyed when played with other people.

Indeed duckchow, map making is a long and painstaking task. It's a labour of love infact.
One pixel off with the placement of a brush could spell doom and make you lose lots of hard work.
The number 1 rule in mapmaking is "backup your work".

People trundle around maps without actually thinking about each individual sound, each glimmering sunbeam, each monster, each falling leaf...they all have to be placed manually into the map using a very complex 3-D editing program whilst following a pre-determined design.
Each creature, anything that moves or involves interaction, all have to be connected to scripts, other sprites/objects, sounds etc

When i walk around on my adventures and see something that looks good, i take a moment to think about the effort that went into that individual animation/event/object.
The game is much more rewarding when you have APPRECIATION instead of constantly trying to undermine ArenaNet and Guild Wars - which in my honest opinion, is one of the best things my computer has ever had the honour of running.

i luv the game.. if u dont like it, dont play it, but pls dont tell others not to buy and try it just cuz u dont like it.. thats kinda weird. bored? go out.. get a girl..

As Anet said before GW was released, it was intended for casual gamers. But early on when playing the game at first, you'll get hooked and play it heavily. Then you'll get tired of playing or keep on going.

etc etc
So, basically, what you're saying is that it's a great game, you got, what, 3-400 hours worth of great gaming for $50, instead of 20 hours like with e.g. Knights of the Old Republic or Fable, but like all games, including MMORPGs, one will eventually tire of it.

Well, what a shocker. Who'd ever have guessed.

100 divided by 30 pounds = 30p an hour

now ive played it for 350 hours = 8p an hour

8p

8p

WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY









Oh and as for soling being nerfed, please quit saying this. Its been made harder, so what. It was affecting the game in a negative manner as any new players couldnt afford sod all.

First you get a whole load of people saying how easy the game is, then when something is made harder (still possible though) they complain.


So you seriosly expected to pay 30 pounds for a game and for it to keep you entertained for years?

I personally see this as another nerf whinghing post, you complain of the games lack of longitivity whilst stating you have played at the very least over 100 hours and that youve played it religiosly

so true. i can go through each map dozens of times and still be amazed by how it looks.
that's why i love morrowind so much. months and months and months of exploring time and still haven't seen all.
love it love it

They don't need to fix it.
You play only 30% of the game and complain it's too short.
If you don't like the other 70% it's your own fault, not anets.

If all you do is PvE, the game ends at some point, and in GW's case, rather early. In PvP however, your competition decides the game's replayability, and is the only reason why I still play this game. Until the competition leaves, there's still plenty of things to do *cough* Taipei.

Shinsei=right

If there was no PvP a good *guess* 60% of the gaming population would have left GW.

More sweeping generalisations, about pvp being the only long term game option.

Yes the pve in this game is sooooo short.

Ive only played it now for a total of 350 ish hours.

sigh.

I agree 100%

Sorry i just read this bit.

So if your in the habit of wasting money, would you like to send some my way.

I can send you my address and i shall expect a check in the post.

I give that a complete ditto. I have had some great 'adventures', finding those bits of the map not covered by a quest/mission. I would imagine some of these out of the way places are rarely visited - such a shame given all the effort Anet put into them.

Although ... and you thought this going to be all positives - nah, not in the forums

I am now getting 'slightly' less excited by GW. After many many hours of playing any game, it's bound to lose a little shine. I don't want to get into a GW/WoW debate, but I have now reached a point where I would like a little more variety - such as the ability to craft items, become a trader, get married, have kids ... ok ... down boy. Basically forget the killing for a bit, and go do other 'stuff'.

It would also be nice to meet other people during my travels through the map (via shared instances maybe), though that's a topic for the Sanitarium.

I am in no way threatening to leave (who would care anyways) and I'll be there as tonight as usual, but I would like to feel a little more immersed in this beautiful world.

... buy a farm, grow some crops ...

...To original poster:

Sorry to skim but all I have to say is, you have overplayed probably.

NO GAME will leave you entertained for a continous amount of time, unless you take breaks (like I have).

The reason is it becomes a grind, a monotonous work.

You would rather be doing something more worthwhile than to farm for your perfect 15>50 sickle, right? Is the 15>50 sickle going to give you an edge over as PvP 15>50 short sword? no. Does it mean I wouldn't want the sickle? no.

Its' GUILD Wars, not PvE farming wars. You missed the whole point of the game. This is not the MMORPG type game where "OMG I PWN YOU WITH MY ULTIMATE WEAPONS AND ARMOR". Sorry.

Builds don't get , the skills the exploit do. They want to balance the game as much as possible so that it is not lame with everyone using the same builds and tactics.


Yeh, I am a fanboy... w/e I have been playing since 2003 when they had the first demonstrations for E3 2003 come out. They have been doing much for a game with no monthly fees.

I just had a great idea!

Let's start an official "I hate this game, I'm leaving" thread. Players post why they're going to quit, followed by their username and password. The account is up for grabs to whoever sees the post first.

I'm semi-serious. All of my friends at college are really interested in getting Guild Wars, but not many of them can spare $50 in a given week. Why not benefit somebody?

I don't like PvP, thats why a I bought a COMPETITIVE ONLINE role playing game.

this thread is like fanboyism at it's best. Apparently this guy doesn't have the right to post a review of the game because he didn't like it. Only positive things can be heard here.

This game is 100% absolutely the greatest game ever designed. It lacks nothing and comes complete with the worlds greatest story line, immersive PvE environments and the worlds greatest attempt at PvP.....

Seriously, no one cares if u like the game or you hate it, It's no loss to us... quit complaining on how you hate it. quit posting these dumb posts about how bad guild wars is, if u dont like it leave..... dont post it here. Your also saying this because you probably sucked at guild wars and pvp... just my opinion

amazing some one makes a post about the game lacks depth but admits only accessing 1/2 the game...

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Kinda, (well comon most of us are fanboys ). I just thought it was a load of rubbish as he says basicly.

Ive played it over 100 hours and played it religiosly. (so got more than your moneys worth)

Nerf nerf nerf crap.

dont buy it.

As a person running out of quality playtime myself I understand your dillemma. There are lots of MMO's that a person can feel satisfied they've made progress after maybe a hour or two. I think there's a difference between a casual game that you can enjoy for a long period of time, and one you can rush through several times over

I happen to agree with a bit of the OPs comments. There is not that much depth because they've tried to make everything simple. Seems to me there is a lack of immerision for your characters because the impression is given you need to rush through the game 3 or 4 times to have any sort of fun in PvP to make sure you unlock every skill. I guess there are people who enjoy this sort of gameplay but it quickly lost it's zest for me. The only thing entertaining is this forum.

Yes most MMO's have nerfing but it would be interesting to compare the number of nerfs GW has made in the brief time its been around and a MMO that has been out a few years.

But having said that, the game is very pretty and probably worth the price (on sale) for a short period of time....and that's all that matters I guess.

i have a preorder for OBLIVION and had great fun with the first in the series ARENA.

since it is NOT an MMORPG it is a game you WILL FINISH with each chapter and put aside until the next chapter which will build on the previous chapters.

you assumed without checking which is your fault not Anet/NCSofts fault.

by your own statement you got your moneys worth of fun from it with a big margin to spare so i fail to see a valid complaint.

this game is like the local playground you visit for fun and then go someplace else coming back when you feel like it.

you seem to have expected it to be a second home/virtual perpetual life instead of a game (FF/WOW ) for free of monthly charges.

i will buy chapter 2 without hesitation

you state you knew it was not an MMORPG and then expect all the benefits/content of an MMORPG

CURIOUS

He's got a right to review the game for sure but at the same time everyone's got a right to defend the game. He makes it really easy to defend the game.

400 hours of play for just the initial cost, like a nickel an hour entertainment
Complaints about nerfs - if they didn't nerf and he was losing he'd be complaining they didn't do anything.
2 characters through, so he poked himself in the eye with a sharp stick and didn't like the feel so he thought he'd try the other eye?

If you read the box it sounds like he got way more than his money's worth on this game. I know I've bought $50 games and finished them in 1 week and and they didn't have the PvP at the end.

Why does he feel the need to bash the game at all? He should come to the boards, say goodbye to his friends and say the game doesn't fit his gaming needs any longer and vanish. That's the mature thing to do.

What he did was come to the boards, whine and complain one last time, and basically try to say that anyone that plays this game is being fooled or something into thinking they're having fun.

"Oh I played 1000 hours and only thought it was fun, now I want my money back"


Boo freaking hoo.

that's not what he did at all....that's what it LOOKS like he did because you're a rampant fanboy. He merely stated that he no longer enjoys the game and doesn't feel as if it's the right choice for someone looking for a MMORPG...and seeing as though there are thousands upon thousands of people buying this game thinking it is, it's a valid review for anyone searching the boards for information about the game.

This game has the worst fanboy community of any game i've ever played. Guild Wars is a great game. But After 150-200 hours you're deathly tired of PvE. I got my money's worth....but the worth of one's money is subjective. Maybe he didn't feel as though he got his money's worth. He is certainly entitled to that opinion and the right to voice it. He was actually quite subjective. Pointed out where the game failed and why it failed(for him). Every time someone says something bad about this game you lemmings jump on them as if they've just insulted your first born child....it's actually quite pathetic.

There is quite a lot of negativity on this forum. The “fan boy” does not have much of a voice here. The thing is, however, you are simply stating the same point that many others have. You have nothing new or original to say, and yet you make a thread to fill it.

Actually, around here, the “Fan Boy” is considered mostly the people who don’t want “NERFS”; I don’t know why. You are just jabbering about how your playing the game too much results in your getting tired of it.

All you’re doing is making a long rant, virtually about nothing, things that are in all games, and then challenging people to attack you. What do you expect?