Skill Acquisition

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Does anyone else feel that PvP is now way overbalanced on skill unlocking? It was once a person was to make a RP char to unlock skills but now people just use prebuilds to leech faction and guess what, they unlock skills a hell of a lot faster now than pve character...

1000 faction.... 10 minutes of winning?

1 skill point + 1pp... 1 hour of random questing? and 1pp.... thats a lot for 1 regular skill given most people don't feel like farming UW or going through the motions picking up every spec of gold for an hour..

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

agreed.

there are some people who have already unlocked every skill/upgrade/item and have reached their 10k faction limit and are yelling for items like 15k or fissure armor to spend it on.

it is not enough that they got the next best thing to UAS/EVERYTHING now they want the PVE status items as well.

if everything is unlocked faction has done what they wanted it to do now let them PVP their brains out.

and if they want fissure armor let them join us in getting it in PVE

wolfy3455

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by TadaceAce
Does anyone else feel that PvP is now way overbalanced on skill unlocking? It was once a person was to make a RP char to unlock skills but now people just use prebuilds to leech faction and guess what, they unlock skills a hell of a lot faster now than pve character...

1000 faction.... 10 minutes of winning?

1 skill point + 1pp... 1 hour of random questing? and 1pp.... thats a lot for 1 regular skill given most people don't feel like farming UW or going through the motions picking up every spec of gold for an hour..
Oh noes, PvP players can unlock what they want to!

Seriously, PvP chars don't go into PVE, don't impact the economy (except for tombs chest drops), and generally don't mess with you unless you play PvP. When you play PvP, you then get the same unlock rate as PvP chars.

Completely shocking.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfy3455
Oh noes, PvP players can unlock what they want to!

Seriously, PvP chars don't go into PVE, don't impact the economy (except for tombs chest drops), and generally don't mess with you unless you play PvP. When you play PvP, you then get the same unlock rate as PvP chars.

Completely shocking.
if i could use faction on my PVE character i might try PVP but since i cant i will still be looking for that superior vigor drop after 750+ hours that the faction person decided to get and picked up the same afternoon

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

PvP unlocks don't cross into the PvE world, so who cares?

wolfy3455

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
if i could use faction on my PVE character i might try PVP but since i cant i will still be looking for that superior vigor drop after 750+ hours that the faction person decided to get and picked up the same afternoon
They have to try to take skill into account. Someone with the intelligence of a chicken with his head cut off can unlock through PVE. If that same idiot tries to unlock through PvP, he'll have to get one hell of a RT group to do it.

Aracos79

Aracos79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Great Southwest

Shadowstorm Mercenaries

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
PvP unlocks don't cross into the PvE world, so who cares?
Quoted for truth. All those faction unlocks don't help them build RP characters, so what difference does it make how fast they unlock them? It still ONLY applies to the PvP realm.

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

I don't see how you guys can play pve so much, I've got 3 through pve and can't stand it... same old stuff, same old crappy groups with W/Mo

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

I don't see how you guys can play pve so much, I've got 3 through pve and can't stand it... same old stuff, same old crappy groups with W/Mo

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

I don't see how you guys can play pve so much, I've got 3 through pve and can't stand it... same old stuff, same old crappy groups with W/Mo...

and faction leeching.... ohhh you can't play comp arena without having at least one leech in the group..

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
PvP unlocks don't cross into the PvE world, so who cares?
accually the realm do cross. in 2 places matter of fact.

Team Arena

Hall of Heros (tombs)

that is the only place on the game that they do meet.

love the faction for unlocking and i think it is great. if a person doesn't want to spend hours and hours to play the game (casual player), they can go pvp and unlock fast with pre-builds.

btw the fi boon pre-build is just about the best build around right now with a little tweaking.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
accually the realm do cross. in 2 places matter of fact.

Team Arena

Hall of Heros (tombs)

that is the only place on the game that they do meet.

love the faction for unlocking and i think it is great. if a person doesn't want to spend hours and hours to play the game (casual player), they can go pvp and unlock fast with pre-builds.

btw the fi boon pre-build is just about the best build around right now with a little tweaking.
But still the PvP unlocks are not going into the PvE world, it's PvE entering the PvP world, where they can unlock with faction same as PvP.

So again, who cares?

momo2oo2

momo2oo2

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Zaragoza, Spain

[ODL]

E/Mo

Adding to the rant... The skills I unlock with my PvE char should be usable for that same char in PvE. Something similar to unlocking skills for one PvE char but not for the other PvE chars you make.

I think thats a way of leveling faction reward against PvE grind...