LF Runner/Soloer Guy for Missions

Axle_Fieshe

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/W

I am looking for someone (or a few people) to do the missions from Divinity Coast to (and including) Riverside Province. I will pay the leader of the group 1.5k at the End of Each Mission.

MSG me ingame: "David Turnbull"

Ray

Ray

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Denmark

o_O;;

Why can't you just find a group to do it with, you'll save some money too.

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

Check out
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=56099

This is our Runner's Guild. That's all we do is run people to different parts of the map and help them complete missions for a fee. There is nothing wrong with want to pay someone run/help you with missions for.

Whisper me in game: Big Pappa Pump. Or whisper Lady Blue Steel, our guild leader.

Axle_Fieshe

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray
o_O;;

Why can't you just find a group to do it with, you'll save some money too. 1. I am lazy
2. I don't feel like doing them
3. I can't be bothered



Thnx funbun

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

Also, finding a group doesn't work. You spend an hour trying to find a group. And once the mission starts you find out the group sucks. Half the people leave, and you must go back to town and start the whole proccess over again. Why not pay an expert and get it right the first time?

KaPe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by funbun
Also, finding a group doesn't work. You spend an hour trying to find a group. And once the mission starts you find out the group sucks. Half the people leave, and you must go back to town and start the whole proccess over again. Why not pay an expert and get it right the first time? Yes yes yes, of course it doesn't. You can *never* find good players *anywhere* and that's why you *have to* pay runner like you. Greedy little...

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

When did I say never? And when did I say you HAVE to pay me or any other runner?

Axle Fieshe is the one requesting the service. People like him are willing to pay runners. What's wrong with me providing a service that people obviously want?

That's the nature of business: to provide products and/or services people want for a fee. They are willing to pay. I'm not forcing anyone to pay me.

In fact, when I'm practicing a run I invite people for free.

Caelus The Fallen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Glasgow

Voice of the Darkness

E/Mo

Why not just skip the missions completely, and run fromToA to Sanctum Cay? I did this with my second character (altough admittedly I was a Warrior, and hence able to easily run myself).

KaPe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

"That's the nature of business: to provide products and/or services people want for a fee. They are willing to pay. I'm not forcing anyone to pay me.
"

That's one thing - but telling things like "You waste 30 minutes to make a group and fail anyway - you could pay me instead" is you lying, plain and simple. Hell, even henchies could do 99% of missions.

I wouldn't care about such comment if you didn't advertise yourself as runner earlier. That's like hearing "expert w/mo tank lfg", except worse.

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Axle_Fieshe
1. I am lazy
2. I don't feel like doing them
3. I can't be bothered



Thnx funbun
Uhh, He obviously doesn't want to use henchies.

Notice Axle Fieshe is the one that requested the service. No one responded to what he wanted and I have a service that is right up his alley. So I put up an ad which was relevant to his request.

If you don't like what I have to offer, then, fine. We will dissagree. You play the game the way you want and I'll play the game tha way I want. End of discussion.

I say again. Read the above quote. Axle Fieshe is willing to pay me or any other runner for the job. And I have a service that he wants. That's the nature of business. People want something and I've got the serivec he wants. That's his choice not mine. If he is willing to pay, then, I'll provide the service.

Axle Fieshe, you can also whisper any of the graduates that Lady Blue Steel has listed.

KvanCetre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Madison Scouts

E/Mo

This is the same guy asking how to defeat doppleganger at level 6... and then getting upset because he couldn't dodge arrows.

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

That's funny. I saw a lvl 14 monk beat his mirror and he only ascended to level 18. His reaction was really was funny.

MrBiggums

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Lafayette , CA

Deicidal Tendencies [deus]

I wouldnt trust this guy.... We made him an officer in our guild and he then booted all the members.

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

That's why you ask to see the money up front. If they refuse to show, then you don't take the gig. If they chose not to pay after you've run , then report to havethe banned.

EAT U ALIVE

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

LBS running academy

W/Mo

Wow why don't you just enjoy the game interact with people instead of rushing through everything? what's the rush?

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

Because when you're starting on your 6th character you don't to go through all the same stuff again.

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by funbun
Check out
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=56099

This is our Runner's Guild. That's all we do is run people to different parts of the map and help them complete missions for a fee. There is nothing wrong with want to pay someone run/help you with missions for.
There is nothing right about it either.

Sad

Quote:
Originally Posted by funbun
Because when you're starting on your 6th character you don't to go through all the same stuff again. Someday someone is going to have a better excuse than that, after six times everything should be cake.

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

Okay, fine. Like I said you play the game the way you want. I'll play the game the way I want.

People want this service. Guild Wars hasn't made rules against running ppl. So I'll continue to run for a fee. You won't change my mind and the minds of thousands of runners and thier clients. End of discussion.

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by funbun
Okay, fine. Like I said you play the game the way you want. I'll play the game the way I want.

People want this service. Guild Wars hasn't made rules against running ppl. So I'll continue to run for a fee. You won't change my mind and the minds of thousands of runners and thier clients. End of discussion. This is true, but it won't stop me from complaining about it
every chance I get.

not the end

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

Excatly my point. We have the freedom to make either choice.

There is nothing else to discuss. You are against what I do. I'm okay with that. But you will not change my mind. And I don't plan to change your mind.

I will continue to run despite what you say. And I WILL continue defend my position. As you WILL continue to defend your position.

Sooner or later we'll get tired of arguing and llet each other believe whatever they want to believe. Nothing new is being said on either side of the isle. Thus, end of discussion.

capitalist

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

^^
Just wanted to let you know that you have to ignore the people that don't understand the purpose of running. They will never understand that you are not making anyone pay for anything. They will never understand that you are providing a solution to the exact problem the OP is having. It's just how it is

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

Ahh! Thx Swift. I should have spent this time practicing

Darkest Dawn

Darkest Dawn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Ohio, USA

W/Mo

I have logged 766 hours and 25 minutes.<yeah, I'm a freak, lol> I have gotten to do some missions so many times I have begun to despise them.

My first few chars did everything the regular way, but at this point on my 10th char, I get run. My latest is a mesmer, and can't run very good himself. In my type of case, I see no harm in getting run. Some missions I will do for the exp or the skill points, others I avoid, or get run around.

The reason is to get them ascended and able to compete. I find doing this better than going for a PvP only char, since as a regular PvE I can get whatever skills I want as I progress. Which also means a better equipped PvP char should I choose to go that route as well.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

I totally understand the concept of running, but the problem with it is that the service is completely abused by new players.

You have to admit, there is a severe temptation for someone that is starting out the game to be "run" and get the best armor in the game in a matter of a week. And yes, many of these new guys can afford it with finding a couple of black dyes in presearing.

That absolutely ruins the game for them - they don't learn how to develop any of the skills necessary to play the game properly and wind up performing horribly in PvP. So, you've finished the game, you don't know how to play it, and you really can't enjoy the other parts of the game. That results in a quick burnout and BOOM...they go back to WoW.

I know that this service is valuable for those that have been through the game several times, but you HAVE to admit the damage you are doing the new player. Has many similarities to a drug dealer, eh?

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

But our guild run people like Dawn who have tons of hours on the game.

Blue Steel

Blue Steel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Blue Empire [BLUE]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
I totally understand the concept of running, but the problem with it is that the service is completely abused by new players.

You have to admit, there is a severe temptation for someone that is starting out the game to be "run" and get the best armor in the game in a matter of a week. And yes, many of these new guys can afford it with finding a couple of black dyes in presearing.

That absolutely ruins the game for them - they don't learn how to develop any of the skills necessary to play the game properly and wind up performing horribly in PvP. So, you've finished the game, you don't know how to play it, and you really can't enjoy the other parts of the game. That results in a quick burnout and BOOM...they go back to WoW.

I know that this service is valuable for those that have been through the game several times, but you HAVE to admit the damage you are doing the new player. Has many similarities to a drug dealer, eh?
First time I have ever heard running compared to drug dealing . . .

How do I prevent new players from abusing running? Simple: I charge a LOT. It makes people think about the investment, opportunity costs, and cost-benefit analysis. If you are a farmer who can make 3 times what I charge for a run in the amount of time it would take to build a decent PUG and complete a mission that isn't even fun anymore, then you ought to have an expert come and do it right, quickly, so you can get back to what you enjoy.

Capitalist is exactly right, we are charging for the perfect solution to a very common problem: unreliable PUGs making an incredible, fun, amazing game frustrating. You may have the skill to do it right, but you will get further much, much faster with an expert, and it is a win-win situation. We charge more than other runners because we are more reliable than other runners, both at being there when you need us and successfully completing the run. If your runner is unreliable, than you are paying for the problem I described above, not the solution!

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Well, if you're being run because of the game, that's not exactly a shining endorsement for the gameplay.....and I do know why people do it.

Charging alot only promote people to do more things that are not exactly cool. If someone's not willing to play through the game and wants do be run so badly they can easily buy gold off ebay. I'm sure if you asked the botter they could come up with a "we're just providing a service" too. The only difference is they are not allowed to do it, and oddly enough they seem to have no problem...how convenient.

I'm all for being able to run, but the whole dragging people through exploit should have been plugged.

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

Again you have said nothing new, Dax. This is getting old.

You are not going to convince me or anyother runner to stop. Get over it.

Haywires Destiny

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ignorance Embraced [iE]

Mo/Me

In my opinion I do get a little bored with the missions each time i make a new pve character but I've become really good at the storyline missions. I personally have never found parties that are difficult to deal with or leave all the time. (I count myself lucky). Sometimes when i do missions people think I have map hack because I always go the right way (No Guide!)

Playing along with every class and different subclasses has really kept me interested: trying out new skills, builds, and weapons. Don't get me wrong I have nothing against runnin, I myself get the droks run for armor, but I really think people should try to enjoy the game. I've found very interesting people in missions from ascalon to sanctum and then on to the dessert. Also, a good party can go a long way. If you are efficient with yout time and allocate your productivity you can easily get through all the missions in a day, depending on how long you are online.

Cheers.

capitalist

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

I just wanted to add that I am often found selling crack in Lions Arch D1. No no no...wait...I mean I run drugs from LA -> Desert. I mean...oh, nevermind.