Is it me? or are the SF drops not dropping
EAT U ALIVE
Hey guys, I have been doing SF for a while now, and since it came out lol I havn't gotten a green item yet, I just buy all of mine! Like 2 days ago I was in a 5 man farming team in SF for 3 hours! No one got a single drop! I just want to know if any one else has these problems? And also a question: could it be that since so many people farm SF a day that the green drops are going down? Whatever this is, it's messed up.
KANE OG
My first three times farming with a full compliment of henchies (beginning of October) yielded 5 green items. Most from Yakslapper. What's the big deal with the green anyway? They don't seem to be as special as you would think.
Savio
I went in with a team of 8 once and 11 greens dropped total. I also went in once and didn't get anything.
And, how are you taking 3 hours with a 5-man team? Unless you're farming it repetitively (which will nerf your drops), you should be fine and do it in 1-1.5 hours. It's been a while since I've done 5-man...I found they weren't that efficient at farming greens.
And, how are you taking 3 hours with a 5-man team? Unless you're farming it repetitively (which will nerf your drops), you should be fine and do it in 1-1.5 hours. It's been a while since I've done 5-man...I found they weren't that efficient at farming greens.
Tactical-Dillusions
I agree. It's either "no drops" or "two drops for him and none for me". There's more profit elsewhere in Tyria.
James Phinney promised better drops in the state of the game letter.
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In coming updates, you should expect a significant increase in the rate of item unlocking and skill acquisition through both PvE and PvP. In other words, you will be able to get Faction, XP and rare items more quickly.
Where are they? Things were great after the SF release but they're now miserable and we still haven't had our questions answered by ArenaNet.
Savio
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Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions
Things were great after the SF release but they're now miserable and we still haven't had our questions answered by ArenaNet.
You haven't noticed why most non-max golds and upgrade prices are dropping? Because rares are everywhere now; all you have to do is open certain chests and get them. Anet kept their promise on rares; greens are kinda different.
Tactical-Dillusions
So i have to buy keys now so i can have a chance at getting a rare? Where is the fun in opening a box?
Sorry but if i kill a level 24 creature, i expect more than just a stone summit badge. I certainly do not want to be opening boxes which are based on a system that's 100% fake and engineered by some guy sat behind a keyboard accross the Atlantic ocean. The old loot system was fine. Since they nerfed the majority of farmers, the least i personally would have liked to see is a return of the good days of drops. Instead, the nerfed loot tables and skills remain and we are expected to be pacified with blue scrolls for useless XP and alpine seeds. You might buy it but i certainly will not. Before you ask if i have been to SF too much...no, i haven't. I took almost two weeks away from the area and the drops were still worse than any mid-level area elsewhere in Tyria. Mustache Mayhem
thing with the nerfed drops that I noticed about farming is if you wait awhile (like 24 hours) and come back your almost guaranteed to get a gold item at your favorite farming spot first run.. but then it drops after the second run- but this is what's a trip.. certain times of day it seems everyone farming the same area will get certain gold drops no matter what.. I know this because I've done enough selling to see when it happens.. like I used to do runs in UW come back with a gold storm bow- soon as hit toa there's another guy selling an un'id gold stormbow.. if I ran UW and got a gold eternal (once had 2 gold eternal bows drop in same run one right after another)- there's guy trying to sell a gold eternal bow when I got done with the run.. and same thing with the greens when I used to solo farm- tanzit would drop a certain green (like razorstone or tanzit's shield) and in war camp everyone was selling the same green.. it did'nt hit me till tanzit dropped his shield- I had'nt seen this drop in awhile and did'nt see it selling in war camp for a couple days.. got to the camp and 3 people were selling it =] last runs I made in sorrows were real bad though- out of around 5 solo runs I got one green.. back when the update hit you could get 1-2 greens off the boss you wanted every run
Tactical-Dillusions
Yeah i hate that. Maybe it's coincidence aswell though?
I was trying to sell a 5:1 vampric string in one of the many ascalon districts earlier. Considering that there are so many districts and i only ever try to sell an item perhaps once a week, i was gobsmacked that the guy below me was also trying to sell a 5:1 string
unienaule
I've found several 15>50 bows, and a 15>50 icy spatha of enchanting +20%. I'm not complaining.
Mustache Mayhem
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Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions
Yeah i hate that. Maybe it's coincidence aswell though?
I was trying to sell a 5:1 vampric string in one of the many ascalon districts earlier. Considering that there are so many districts and i only ever try to sell an item perhaps once a week, i was gobsmacked that the guy below me was also trying to sell a 5:1 string MaglorD
This sounds just like in D2. Ppl also claimed better drops at certain times of the day. Maybe they used the same algorithm or random generator as in D2
unienaule
Actually its more of a probability issue. If you take a whole bunch of confetti and drop it on the floor, it's NOT going to be all spread out evenly. There are going to be clumps. Nobody would claim ZOMG the confetti is clumping itself together, its just random chance that more than one thing drops at a time. This is basically what happens.
Tactical-Dillusions
I was at a wedding the other day and we threw the confetti over the happy couple and i noticed something really weird. Some of the confetti just clumped together in little piles and i was like "ZOMG, the confetti is clumping itself together!"
It reminded me of the good luck periods of loot in Guild Wars. I don't know if the bride was happy with her feather, pearl and necklace that i gave her though. 
EAT U ALIVE
Hmm i guess it's not just me getting suck ass drops. But i am still waiting to get my first green drop lol!
Zegorzalek
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Originally Posted by Savio
I went in with a team of 8 once and 11 greens dropped total. I also went in once and didn't get anything.
And, how are you taking 3 hours with a 5-man team? Unless you're farming it repetitively (which will nerf your drops), you should be fine and do it in 1-1.5 hours. It's been a while since I've done 5-man...I found they weren't that efficient at farming greens. I'm pushing 700 hours of game time with 2 charas through endgame...mostly PvE and have been hanging in SF the last 4 weeks. Not a "farmer" as I know it, though I believe I am getting there... Eplain this to me... are you saying that if i do 3 back to back Orozar runs, my chances of getting good loot GO DOWN??? and what about UW/FOW...as I am heading there more now... Please define what you mean by repetetive farming and what do you base this statement on? Thanks... Zegorzalek
Savio
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Originally Posted by Zegorzalek
I'm pushing 700 hours of game time with 2 charas through endgame...mostly PvE and have been hanging in SF the last 4 weeks. Not a "farmer" as I know it, though I believe I am getting there... Eplain this to me... are you saying that if i do 3 back to back Orozar runs, my chances of getting good loot GO DOWN??? and what about UW/FOW...as I am heading there more now... Please define what you mean by repetetive farming and what do you base this statement on? Thanks...
Zegorzalek Example: I did about 20 back-to-back Orozar runs - obviously with some breaks thrown in, but I didn't enter any zone except for GF/SF. Not a single green for me. Went out and helped some people with other missions, came back, got 2 greens in a few runs. I mix it up every so often now and try not to stay in the same place.
coolsti
I went out with a 7 team SF farming party last night, and got three green drops! I think there were only two other green drops, so you can imagine how jealous the rest of the team was. So it is all a matter of luck. These three green drops are, by the way, my very first green drops. I have been farming SF with henchies a lot, and have never seen a green drop before last night.
Sister Rosette
Ugh, just when I thought this thread had died.
If you want a green that damn bad and you're going to be farming regardless go farm somewhere worthwhile, raise the cash, and just buy the stupid thing. Rare means rare for a reason kiddos.
corax5
Yes, its you.
Pompeyfan
TBH I've noticed that drops have got really pathetic lately, and I don't just mean the rare or decent ones. It's got to the point when I've sometimes felt the game has forgotten I'm there- earlier for example in the FoW, I went nearly 10 mins with no drop of any description not even dust, while others got 3 or 4 drops in the same period. I've also noticed that some people consistently get the best drops while others get nothing (very noticable if you regularly quest with the same people. BTW these aren't farming expeditions, they're full teams of 8 with no henchies, doing quests so drops shouldn't be hidden, nor should the decrease drops for repeatidly doing the same area apply either.
IllusiveMind
On my first SF run i got a Stinger, i was on a 5 men party. Later on i decided to bring some NPC's for the run, so i got myself 4 henchies including me. We also know that henchies likes to lower your drop rate, but i got a Green Necro Scepter and lots of salvage stuff, including some crappy blues. I think this is just a matter of pure dumb luck. So i don't really know if anything got nerfed or not... but it feels like everything is normal to me. This could be wrong but i also heard that loot rate is increased when the Gods favors America. Can i get some clarification about this issue with the Gods?
Shaun
Out of the last like 5,5 man sf runs I have done,not a single green has dropped for anyone. And the chests seems to be crap now to,nothing but purples for me.
twicky_kid
known fact the more you visit an area the less drops you are going to get. i've gone through SF once and got many greens. i go there about every 2 weeks or so and farm. i get lots of drops every time b/c i don't go there all the time.
the reduction in drops you are seeing is b/c you are there 24/7 and go no where else. rotate your spots out so you don't run them dry. if you know a good spot keep it to yourself or see it nerfed. Shaun
I dont repatedly farm it,I will go like once maybe twice a week for one run and still get nothing
monk muffle
well i had these problems alot i went on at least 34 trips (i counted) NO DROPS EXCEPT FOR FLINTS ARTOFACT!!!!!! but itll pay off trust me i got malinons sheild yesterday and a week before that thorgalls trust me u will get nothing then an amzing 100k+ drop gl
eppuJ
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Originally Posted by unienaule
I've found several 15>50 bows, and a 15>50 icy spatha of enchanting +20%. I'm not complaining.
Where did you find these? I have played the game over 700 hours, completed it with three characters, including SF, and never seen a 15>50 max dmg drop. I farmed uw solo with my monk before they nerffed it and got only ectos, no eternal shields or bows. I just want to see 15>50 drop even once in my lifetime.
unienaule
Sorrows furnace, Miner's Chests. Just got a rare 8/9 Smiting staff today, req 10.
Demon Rebel
OMG... The furnace makes me want to pound my forehead on the keyboard....
Oh wait... I've had 1 green drop - The Rockmolder... Woohooo for my Monk/War, which was kewl, first green drop out of the 3 of us that always play together. I sold it, then started a War/Me (I just realized this) a couple days after selling the greenie. We've killed a few of the SF bosses and 1 green has dropped... not the best number but there has been a good number of max golds that have come from the chests - I mostly get semi rare shields (with the actual valuable mods 'n such, cuz I know they always say rare). The reason SF hurts my brain is cuz I go as the Healer and keep Everyone alive... lots of just totally focusing on the party bar... great fun MaglorD
Yesterday I did four FA runs with my non-minion necro and 5 henchies and got zero greens. Last run I went around looking at the dead bosses' corpses and noticed Malion dropped his famed shield and hammer but it obviously went to the idiotic suicidal henchies. Tanzit dropped his cleaver, also went to henchies. Ivor dropped his staff, also went to henchies....stupid greedy henchies....lol
Didn't bother to check Rago and the other elem dude. MaglorD
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Originally Posted by eppuJ
Where did you find these? I have played the game over 700 hours, completed it with three characters, including SF, and never seen a 15>50 max dmg drop. I farmed uw solo with my monk before they nerffed it and got only ectos, no eternal shields or bows. I just want to see 15>50 drop even once in my lifetime.
Oh the other day I found a gold bow with 15>50 at Riverside Province. Unfortunately it's not max, something like 14-27.
Zegorzalek
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Originally Posted by MaglorD
Oh the other day I found a gold bow with 15>50 at Riverside Province. Unfortunately it's not max, something like 14-27.
Quite the interesting discussion.... Regards the bows... my first chara is a ranger, and I persist in keeping my desert collector bows.... which all exist in each class of bows (short, long etc.), max dam, with 15>50 modifiers. I have a short, long, and composite... which i have modded with fiery/icy/lightining strings and other grips based on my needs. Consequently, i have not been pining for green bows too much.... my collector bows, when customized offer equal or better damage imo anyway. And respectfully, though we have spectulated much, is there any "official proof" that drops get nerfed from running an area repeatedly... AND if that is the case...how in the world do the Ebay/other farmers get so much loot from running the same pattern/bosses day in and day out? Just wondering... the shadows want to know.. Zeg MaglorD
Drops do get nerfed when farming an area repeatedly. You notice gold items become purple and then blue when an area is farmed too often. You can still sell the crappy drops for gold though.
unienaule
There is actually a message that shows up if you do the hardest of the hardcore farming. This hilariously happened to someone in HoH when his team steamrolled people so fast the program thought he was killing the first few enemies and then zoning like a farmer.
Demon Rebel
Whats the message?
Pik uR BuM
Is it still possible to farm greens?
I mean when I first began, yeah it was all good...i got a few good green drops. But now somehow everytime i go with a group. It doesnt matter the size, either 1 or 2 drops that i dont go or none at all. I mean i spend at least minim 45 mins in there each run. Also at the fact that its been almost a month since I've gotten my last green. And that staff of Rago's, Ive tried so hard to get it, but what happens everytime it drops...someone else gets it. Ive began tried of farm SF. its gettin anyonying. Anet... Stop holding back on the greens.... They should produce a more fair dropping system...
Savio
The greens are dropping, but if you're only going into SF and nowhere else, then drops will be quite lower for you.
Malafis The Great is IGN
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Originally Posted by twicky_kid
known fact the more you visit an area the less drops you are going to get. i've gone through SF once and got many greens. i go there about every 2 weeks or so and farm. i get lots of drops every time b/c i don't go there all the time.
the reduction in drops you are seeing is b/c you are there 24/7 and go no where else. rotate your spots out so you don't run them dry. if you know a good spot keep it to yourself or see it nerfed. actually i go to SF everyday and i have gotten malinions shield, razorstone, ragos flame staff, ragos flame wand, kindlerock, and dragos flatbow. thats in a 3 day period kiddies
EagleEye33
its all luck geez thats it, its just random, u win some u lose some. Patience is a Virtue!
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