The Underworld FAQ

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Reason: Both official/unofficial wiki have comprehensive guides!

Bonnie: Somebody save him, he can't swim!
Peter: Oh, he's not even kicking. Kick Joe, kick.
Lois: Peter, he's a paraplegic!
Peter: That doesn't mean he can't hear. Kick Joe, kick!

Peter: Oh my god, Brian, there's a message in my Alphabits. It says, 'Oooooo.'
Brian: Peter, those are Cheerios.

(Peter has to come up with a fake name on the spot, so he looks around the room to get inspiration)
Peter Griffin: Uh... my name is...(he sees a pea)
Peter Griffin: Pea...
(he sees a woman crying)
Peter Griffin: ... tear...
(he sees a Griffin fly by)
Peter Griffin: ... Griffin. Peter Griffin

Lois: Honey, what do you say we uh...christen these new sheets, huh?
Peter: Why Lois Griffin, you naughty girl.
Lois: Hehehe...that's me.
Peter: You dirty hustler.
Lois: Hehehehe...
Peter: You filthy, stinky prostitute.
Lois: Aha, ok I get it...
Peter: You foul, venereal disease carrying, street walking RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO.
Lois: Alright, that's enough!

Chris: Dad, what's the blow-hole for?
Peter: I'll tell you what it's not for, son. And when I do, you'll understand why I can never go back to Sea World.

Girl: I can't take a credit card sir. I need real money.
Peter: Oh yeah? Watcha sellin'? Meth, ex, crack, dust, coke, block, crystal????? IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD? I DONT THINK SO!!!!
(He breaks lemonade stand.)

Peter: Sometimes it's appropriate to swear
(Peter is in court)
Bailiff: Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help you god?
Peter: I do........You bastard

Doctor: Contraband check. (Pulls out cookies.) What are these?
Cookie Monster: I don't know!
Doctor: What do you mean"you don't know"?
Cookie Monster: I-I-I-I don't know how they got there!
Doctor: Well I think you DO know!
Cookie Monster: NO NO NO UH DERICK, D-DERICK WAS IN HERE UH EARLIER HE WAS UH MAKING THE, MAKING THE BEDS, HE PROBABLY PUT THEM, UH, I-I WHAS IN THE JOHN, (eats cookies, guards hold him down and give him an injection) AHH AHH AHH! YOU-YOU GUYS ARE NAZIS MAN! YOU'RE FREAKIN' NAZIS!
Guard: Shhh! Shhh! Shhh!

I have to say, pretty amazing Katamari. And much appreciated.

I have been gun-shy about attempting UW after having bad experiences with PUGs due to accidentally taking along a) a secret invincimonk who died and couldn’t be rezed; b) a necro who aggroed everything everywhere and never spoke a word; and c) a warrior who was a good leader at first, but allowed the monsters by him, they attacked us monks and stole our energy, and all he could say at that point was “heal.”

After that, I vowed ONLY guildies and friends would come on our trips. Which left us with no one who knew the ins and outs, and no one who wanted to spend precious gold trying over and over to find out!

So, thank you so much for your work there. We finally had decided to go back this coming weekend; your tips have come just in time.

Last night my party found a fellblade drop from a Smite Crawler, anyone seen this before?

Wow. Very nice FAQ here.

Intend on writing one for the Fissure as well?

Great work. Just a very, very, very small addendum. Charged Blackness also drop ectoplasm or have done on a couple of occasions for me.

Wish someone knew the hp amounts of the monsters, but still.

Top notch work.

Amazing he would do all of that just to make us have fun and enjoy the UW. Great job dude. Also great faq

He did it in case he ends up with one of us in his PUG... And I thank him again.

Damn, you beat us.
We are close to release our UW guide too. However we have hitpoints and AL though

yea i was with a group before and someone got a gold max dmg one..i bought it off her for 7k

Incredible job, I cannot begin to imagine the amount of time you must have spent down in underworld, gathering all this information. Once again, great job

Don't mean to bring back an old thread, but this is fantastic. I just did a very long run with an excelent group, in which we cleared 5/7 of the regions and did a majority of the quests. Love the faq.

btw does anyone know if anybody has actually cleared the entire UW yet?

still collecting family swords angel?

awesome guide, any chance for a "sequal" where you will put in different builds you have found to be most succesful?

I'll help with this post...The build me and my group had was: 3 monks, 2 rangers, 1 mesmer, 1 necro and the lone warrior(me).

we killed everything fairly easily, the two rangers were trap, the monks were a combo of healing/protection, the mesmer was suicide ad the necro was spitefull. I was stance. worked flawlessly untill we got to the obsidian behemoths. since we had to ele and no nuker it took us a while to clear them, and was really boring..

the key to our success was our trappers, suicide mesmer and spiteful necro.

Well! brilliant piece of work. mods, might wanna make this one easy to get to

I led an UW-clearing adventure the other day. The only reason we lost was because we got really tired by the end.

here was our build:

Ranger with interrupts and barrage
Ranger with interrupts, traps, and incendiary arrows
Monk with prot/heal balance, plus holy viel (absolutely needed in Chaos planes)
Monk with prot/heal banace (same as above)
Necro with BIP, Prot spirit, and damage
Ele with Air skills, including thunderclap, which we used all the time. (a ranger had a lightning bow)
Warrior with warrior damage.

It was pretty effective. It just goes to show you that you don't need nukers to win. The Air Ele was extremely useful for the mass-interrupts/knockdowns - especially when you have millions of mindblades everywhere.

The two monks was all we *needed*, although it really could have been useful to have 3 in certian situations. I would have liked to have more damage too. I think if I were gonna re-do it I'd change the Air Ele to Fire.. maybe. The Air Ele "snipe" damage was nice, too :-p Nothing like picking off a running mindblade.

We cleared everything but the top of twin serpant's mountains and part of the Forgotten vale. The total loot was about 8 ectos plus a LOT of gold and gold items. The only annoying part was that we found a good 5 chests, and they all were purple items

Very nice FAQ, this will prove a handy reference tool.

I believe that the information regarding the Vengeful Aatxe is incorrect. To the best of my knowledge, the only skill they use is Protector's Strike as I recall an incident in which I surrounded by many but managed to stay alive quite handily simply because all they did was attack.

If there is real desire for it, I can combine the sections into a PDF (giving all credit to Katamari, of course!) for easier reference.

Let me know.

Dread

Dying Nightmares also use Blood Is Power. (noticed this when one spawned by some Coldfires we were fighting, and he started to BiP them, in turn killing himself..)

I didnt find 4 horseman guide here, anybody bit them?
Here is our guide but unfortunatelly it was bfore Ao?e has been nerfed ,so now it can be a problem ,but its worth to read anyway
http://forum.lost-cape.net/viewtopic.php?t=70

Great work Katamari, a very good reference.

Charged Blacknesses have Glimmering Mark as their elite, Chain Lightning is normal.

Is it true that sometimes Crystalline swords drop from the chests in UW (and that it's the only place in the PvE world where they drop)?

mmm, very good guide. i had thought about writing a basic uw intro and quest guide to point new uw players to in my pugs. but then i figured would they bother to take the time to read it? lol

anyway, i cleared uw with a group back in june or so before many of the current skill and mob changes. we did it w/ a group of 3 monks (our tank was a monk running a prototype solo monk built specifically for clearing uw - mo/r so he could cycle spellbreaker endlessly) and 5 fire nukers. we killed damn fast =) ... it was the best 4 1/2 hours of GW i ever played lol.

since that time i've led many pugs thru the various uw quests. here's some of my info gleaned during that time:

a few days ago I saw my first crystalline sword drop in UW. it popped from the chest upon the completion of Wrathful spirits. we were in a spider capping pug, so proceeded directly to the quest after the chamber, and I opened the chest to see to my amazement a purple crystalline pop out for the other monk. I was so shocked I almost forgot to take a screenshot lol. I have also heard people claiming crystallines drop from Obsidian behemoths, but I don't know if it's an unsubstantiated rumor. I certainly have seen only vast numbers of jawbones from those mobs. I have also heard crystallines drop in FOW, but I've never seen one.

The completion of UW, at least as of june, yields no significant rewards. No doors will open for you, no secret treasure trove of ecto, no secret armor crafter, no grateful or wrathful Gwen will visit you.

Gold items will drop off any creature, but I believe the best ones usually drop from the terrorwebs. Although I did get a gold stormbow from a Coldfire once before anet added the chests. I believe the dreamriders will also drop ecto.

For the 4 Horsemen quest, as far as I remember, the horsemen do not spawn mindblades once they die. However, the dreamrider will spawn mindblades, and that combined with the terrorwebs makes the task nigh impossible enough. Their charge is relentless, rather like a tsunami and we were barely able to destroy them with 5 eles and 2 monks. I suggest if anyone intends to clear UW to start with this monument's subquest first, as if you complete this quest the rest of UW is easy.

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Here's some additional information about the labyrinth reaper quests:

Vengeful aatxes hit hardest when you run from them, using protector's strike and hitting for about 400hp. If you stand your ground however, they only tickle you... still not pleasant, but better than being dead in 2 hits.

Vengeful aatxes will not die even if they are aggro'd, even if their keeper is killed. the best way to lose aggro is to get the party away from the bulls, and have the aggro'd target die. I've noticed that the vengefuls have a very large aggro range and memory as one time we had to pull all 3 off the reaper and the target had to take them down the corridor and out of the radar circle for them to forget about the reaper when the target had died. Any closer and they would just run back to beat up on the reaper.

This is the easiest order I've found to complete the basic UW quests:

1. clear the chamber
1a. clear bulls and graspers before ice wastes (smites) area (optional but will make unwanted slightly easier). clear smites also if desired.
2. take monuments, then clear the monument in the lost vale
3. take and complete wrathful spirits
4. teleport back and take escort souls, teleport to lost vale reaper and kill mindblades from the back. escort souls to mayor and complete quest. then clear mindblades at lost soul area (forgetting this part can make unwanted slightly more difficult).
5. take unwanted guests and teleport to lost vale reaper. kill keeper from rear, then pull keeper down center corridor and kill it w/ ranged nukes. if vengefuls are in the way, tank may have to aggro while nukers nuke keeper, while someone teleports party away once keeper is dead. go down right side and kill keeper at uw spawn pt. kill keeper on the path to the smites area, kill keeper beyond that across the bridge. double back and kill keeper in last corridor and get quest xp.
6. clear smites (ice wastes) if not done in step 1a.

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Quests in order of difficulty from hardest to easiest:

4 Horsemen
Ice King
Restore Monuments (chaos planes is most difficult monument if not cleared before taking quest)
Terrorweb Queen
Demon Assasin/Slayer
Unwanted Guests (very easy if you know what you're doing, but very hard if in a pug who believes they can easily take out the vengefuls)
Imprisoned Spirits
Clear the Chamber
Escort Souls, Wrathful Spirits

of course difficulty will vary depending on the group, with any group not carrying some sort of protection finding anything w/ massive spike damage very difficult.
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skills: monks should definitely always bring prot spirit. when fighting mindblades, a monk carrying heal party is always helpful as is spellbreaker if aggro can be managed correctly. in a party of fairly good players, i've been the only primary monk left with no battery, and have kept parties fighting mobs of mindblades alive. just know to move around if a mindblade starts interrupting you to lose aggro, and as a monk stay in the very back of the party, preferably out of range of most mindblades.

FWIW, Mindblade Spectres seem to also pack Cry of Frustration. Saw them do it several times the other night when we offed a few Horsemen.

i just lead a group into UW, for full details see the 12/9 thread in the tyrian explorer league thread, end result we got through vale moutain 1/2 chaos planes and bone pits. however we had 1 ecto and 1 ruby the enitre 4 hours..lame!!

Just Wondering....Thanx

apparantly some people think that Gwen may be in Chapter Two.

Banished Dream Rider

Ghostly Staves

8 ecto in our recent...where the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO are the terror shileds run...


btw to the guy above me somewhere yes they do have that spell that makes you go #$%%

Thanks for the information about Cry of Frustration. I suspected that the skill was available to them, but for some odd reason, I didn't see a single one use it at the time I was collecting data.

In any case, if all goes according to plan, I should be able to include some radar screenshots to help outline some of the quests. But before that, I'd need to find someone to help me assemble those screenshots in photoshop since I'm quite unfamiliar with the program.

thank you my friend, i just learned somthin new