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LordDan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

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11 Oct 2005 at 06:46 - 1

Does anyone else think the pet feature in guild wars could be drastically improved? I think a Pet screen would be nice, a way to see its damage range, health, armor, evolution bonus’s etc. Also a way to set how it acts for example, aggressive (attacks anything) or passive (only attacks if you attack or attacked) would be such a huge improvement.
And I’m sure everyone out there would LOVE a way to make your pet ATTACK a target without you having to attack first!
This would just be a cool feature but how good would it be if you’re pet actually changed in looks more then a simple glow at lv20? For example a snow wolf turns whiter + teeth become bigger, dune lizard grows horns etc.
Ways your pet can grow, depending on your play style might end up for example with more armor due to you making it take more hits rather then more attack power.
We need a way to reduce the amount of spots needed in your skill bar to have a pet. A good surgestion is to make the charm animal skill and the comfort animal skill into ONE skill. There seriously is no point having 2 skill spots to carry around a pet

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A way to give it items to increase its damage or health or what not there by changing its looks.
More types of pets would be nice too. Ha ha I’m really demanding huh?
Look I got heeps more ideas but ill cut it short.!

Overall people turn to world of warcraft for a better pet system. Alot more to capture. Have there own skills on there OWN skill bar. They grow alot more and are over all alot more rewarding.

Yes with some improvements, I believe pets will be a more common site in PvP because quite frankly they suck at the moment.

Anyone have any ideas how to make pets or minions better? Please list them here.

Valerius

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

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11 Oct 2005 at 07:26 - 2

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=67961

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=67454

but yeah... pets and minions both need to be improved... big time

Ranger Lord

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

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11 Oct 2005 at 08:12 - 3

I agree to wat you said totally. People r wantin a lot more different kinds of pets especially every1 wants a dragon and no one can get one because of the short list of pets. I think the creators of guild wars need to allow more pets to keep people playin and not turn to WORLD OF WARCRAFT.

I sound like a guy sayin a really important speech...

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

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11 Oct 2005 at 08:14 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranger Lord

I sound like a guy sayin a really important speech...

or an idiot, you know, whichever

anet shouldn't make changes to the game in order to 'compete with wow'

the two games aren't even the same genre, they offer completely different gaming experiences, they shouldn't be 'competing' at all

LordDan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/E

11 Oct 2005 at 09:00 - 5

Yes the 2 games are completely different, this doesnt excuse the fact that most if not all fetures of the pet and minion fuctions can be extreemly improved!!!
I still stand by my pet menu idea ( where u can view its stats and change its stance or attatude )
And yes people are hanging out for a 'COOL' pet!!.. so far there is such little difference in pets that its impossible to have a Unique pet. Why cant the developers chuck in a lets say... Fairy Drake, scarabs, moss spiders, Tigers, Lions, Snakes, Scorpions, Rinos, Golems, Imps, Bulls.. look possiblitys are endless. I just think when it came to pets, the developers were lazy. I go online and see MILLIONS of wolfs and spiders its rediculous and makes me want to close fist punch the programers in the face for being lazy!
Same with the armor in teh game.. YES you can get dye, but come on.. EVERYONE looks the same.. its rediculous, nothing is unique.. I DEMAND UNIQUENESS:P

Ranger Lord

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

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11 Oct 2005 at 09:04 - 6

Sry i havent played WOW before and i agree our game needs to hav UNIQUENESS.

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

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11 Oct 2005 at 17:52 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordDan

Yes the 2 games are completely different, this doesnt excuse the fact that most if not all fetures of the pet and minion fuctions can be extreemly improved!!!
I still stand by my pet menu idea ( where u can view its stats and change its stance or attatude )
And yes people are hanging out for a 'COOL' pet!!.. so far there is such little difference in pets that its impossible to have a Unique pet. Why cant the developers chuck in a lets say... Fairy Drake, scarabs, moss spiders, Tigers, Lions, Snakes, Scorpions, Rinos, Golems, Imps, Bulls.. look possiblitys are endless. I just think when it came to pets, the developers were lazy. I go online and see MILLIONS of wolfs and spiders its rediculous and makes me want to close fist punch the programers in the face for being lazy!
Same with the armor in teh game.. YES you can get dye, but come on.. EVERYONE looks the same.. its rediculous, nothing is unique.. I DEMAND UNIQUENESS:P

pets/minions expanded and improved? sure, they've even stated that that's one of the planned things for chapter two

but quit complaining about how you aren't 'unique'

you aren't unique in real life, and you aren't unique in the game either, and you never will be

Valerius

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

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11 Oct 2005 at 18:10 - 8

harsh words... but true lol

anyways... i don't really care about the addition of more pets... what i do care about are that pets and minions having improved AI and some commands

Monseir

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

IM da shiznit

The Shiznitz

W/Mo

11 Oct 2005 at 23:21 - 9

yeah anet should improve pets but not to the point where its just to compete with WoW

Plague

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

N/E

11 Oct 2005 at 23:39 - 10

They could be improved a lot, but they won't be. Perhaps a result of stubborn game design, who knows. But, they will not be fixed, only baby-patched for all time.

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

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11 Oct 2005 at 23:48 - 11

From the hints they've been dropping, it sounds like pets and possible necro's are going to get enhanced. I have never playes WoW but I would like to see more with doing a primarily "pet" ranger build with more options.

Shinomori

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Insane Midget Posse [IMp]

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12 Oct 2005 at 02:36 - 12

I bet I could make you all hate me with one statement.

"OMG, we should be able to ride our pets! That would be just like what people do in WoW!"

But seriously. A pet doesn't really need upped.

Consider the following - (jesus christ, is this Bill Nye now?)
A pet, with 16 beast mastery, can do 17-32 damage. *I think so, I didn't test it*
A bow can do 15-28 unmodded and without skills.

You see, the pet has the higher damage. In addition, it also has several abilites. Consider a pet an investment on your skill bar. You put enough skills on and you WILL get what you paid for. Put maybe 3, you'll complain on GWG because all you can do is charm, revive, and heal animals. Put on 7, and you'll be happy because you can add damage, distract, annoy, and do all sorts of crap IN ADDITION to attacking with a bow WHICH, if you have enough marksmanship(or a low req bow), CAN add another 15-28 damage. For a total for 32-60 damage per hit. See? Pets are GOOD ENOUGH if you just invest in them.

That said, I'm going back to my shortbow barrage ranger.

Valerius

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

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12 Oct 2005 at 02:43 - 13

no one ever said pets suck damage wise or anything like that

we're talking about how our control over our pets is terrible and the AI of the pets is a joke

Shinomori

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Insane Midget Posse [IMp]

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12 Oct 2005 at 02:47 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordDan

Ways your pet can grow, depending on your play style might end up for example with more armor due to you making it take more hits rather then more attack power.
A way to give it items to increase its damage or health or what not there by changing its looks.
Overall people turn to world of warcraft for a better pet system. Alot more to capture. Have there own skills on there OWN skill bar. They grow alot more and are over all alot more rewarding.

Yes with some improvements, I believe pets will be a more common site in PvP because quite frankly they suck at the moment.

And I'm just saying that I responded to the OP, not to you.

Shadowdaemon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Anderson IN USA

Ecks Di [xD]

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12 Oct 2005 at 03:59 - 15

im all for the charm animal and comfort animal being the same button, that would make sense, and hopefulyy since they said they are gonna be putting things to change your characters appearance, they will do that for the pets too, that would be cool

LordDan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/E

12 Oct 2005 at 05:06 - 16

Damn right charm animal and comfort animal in one button makes sence!
And kakumi your oviously a person that has given up and accepted his/her place in life, that youll never be special like your mum always told you that you where. Its a known fact that this game needs more options for uniqueness!
Anyway my main point was infact the lack of control of your pet, why i came up with the pet interface idea and own skill bar ideas.
No one will bother investing in runes and/or skill points to get to 16 beast mastery where its better spent on improving your marksmanship or what not.
Compete with WoW?. Hell no, just get the system uup to a higher standed please.

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

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12 Oct 2005 at 18:57 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordDan

kakumi

why can't people spell my name correctly

sigh

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordDan

Compete with WoW?. Hell no, just get the system uup to a higher standed please.

higher standard? what standard are you going by?

there's never been a game like guild wars, so it's rather difficult to compare it to anything

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

13 Oct 2005 at 00:24 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kakumei

why can't people spell my name correctly

sigh

higher standard? what standard are you going by?

there's never been a game like guild wars, so it's rather difficult to compare it to anything

i think he means AI standard. a 4 year old is smarter than the pets and fiends are.

they have said improvements are coming. mounts will never be included in the game.....already said.

having to wait till chapter 2 for an AI buff to pets come on that's BS. they buffed the henches AI which used to be the same as pets are now.

better yet give us a command hotkeys and you won't have to write another AI

see simple fix.

LordDan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/E

13 Oct 2005 at 13:13 - 19

Yeh twicky kid hit the nail on the head.. Geez i thought i explained my self better!! I think mounts are a bad idea, although i see some peoples point.. takes a long time to travel places and it would look kool.
Henches are still F-ing weak AI wize too.
Whens chapter 2 due??

beleg curudin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Durance of Fate [DoF]

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13 Oct 2005 at 13:35 - 20

Hey I am unique in real life! I have arms instead of ears and I use them to walk, and I can dye any part of my armor, cause I wear armor. Also I have a dog, and I dye him and make him wear armor, and constantly upgrade the menu I have stapled to his back.

/endjoke
But I would like the suggested pet upgrades. So many monsters in this game first time though I tried to tame.

Shadowdaemon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Anderson IN USA

Ecks Di [xD]

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13 Oct 2005 at 19:44 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by beleg curudin

Hey I am unique in real life! I have arms instead of ears and I use them to walk, and I can dye any part of my armor, cause I wear armor. Also I have a dog, and I dye him and make him wear armor, and constantly upgrade the menu I have stapled to his back.

hahaha, thats hilarious

LordDan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/E

14 Oct 2005 at 03:47 - 22

Haha in real life you look different, unless you have a twin. Even then twins have differences. Everyone weres different clothes have different strenghts, weakness's so on. Dont know what your on about lol.

Otsegoflesh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/N

14 Oct 2005 at 04:40 - 23

you know what would be a great? if you could have a certain pet for a long time and create some kind of bond with it, you know how real pets sometimes gain their master's personalities? so the pet would slowly combine and morph into your body to create a SUPER RANGER thats half human and half BEAST, permanently changing your character's looks. with the "bear pet morph" your ranger would absorb the bear and then you'd be all furry and have claws and you'd get some kind of stat boost. and then you could tame a new pet and eventually have it morph into you aswell, so if you morphed with enough pets you could evolve into.. a big crazy animal or something. yeah, that would be neat.

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

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14 Oct 2005 at 05:22 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordDan

Haha in real life you look different, unless you have a twin. Even then twins have differences. Everyone weres different clothes have different strenghts, weakness's so on. Dont know what your on about lol.

sorry to burst your bubble, but people are all the same

no one's special, no one's unique, despite what your mother told you

don't bitch about uniqueness, don't bitch about wanting to be different from everyone else

hey my sword is curved at a different angle than yours hey i'm unique hey look at me hey i want attention HEY

Align

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Protectors of Awesome[AWE]

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14 Oct 2005 at 06:59 - 25

HEY

I'm all for making the pets smarter, but I dont care about more types really. I'd still take the dog over the lizard.

TheCrusader

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Kent,Washington

Dei Victorae [dV]

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14 Oct 2005 at 07:00 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otsegoflesh

you know what would be a great? if you could have a certain pet for a long time and create some kind of bond with it, you know how real pets sometimes gain their master's personalities? so the pet would slowly combine and morph into your body to create a SUPER RANGER thats half human and half BEAST, permanently changing your character's looks. with the "bear pet morph" your ranger would absorb the bear and then you'd be all furry and have claws and you'd get some kind of stat boost. and then you could tame a new pet and eventually have it morph into you aswell, so if you morphed with enough pets you could evolve into.. a big crazy animal or something. yeah, that would be neat.

Best idea ever, that in my opinion, is a teribble idea.

LordDan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/E

14 Oct 2005 at 12:48 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kakumei

sorry to burst your bubble, but people are all the same

no one's special, no one's unique, despite what your mother told you

don't bitch about uniqueness, don't bitch about wanting to be different from everyone else

hey my sword is curved at a different angle than yours hey i'm unique hey look at me hey i want attention HEY

Hahaha you know whats really pathetic, Useing the same thing that I said against you, good to know you liked it

First off i never 'bitched' about uniqueness. Im aloud to have my say just like everyone else on this forem. If you dont like it, DONT POST. Seriously the idiots I have to deal with. Pssh.
Clearly you need to Understand what people are saying before you talk.
This is a forem for Improvements to Guild Wars. If everyone wanted to keep it the same like you, then this game would not reach its full potental nor would people play it for long except for maybe sadists like you.
Go to the many other topics, to do with the lack of variety in guildwars,and take out your anger at the world there. DONT post here again Kakumei.

Now on a different note I think Otsegoflesh has a good idea. But i dont think it would work. If you had 'stat' boosts with everything would take the games balence off. I think the pet simply changing its looks according to its master is good enough

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

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14 Oct 2005 at 13:14 - 28

I'd like to see a "pet unguent" skill. The same as troll unguent except it's for pets and allied pets.

LordDan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/E

14 Oct 2005 at 13:45 - 29

Yeh be good if your pet self casted it too.. lol.. can dream thou

Align

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

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14 Oct 2005 at 15:02 - 30

If the AI isn't improved, I'd like to see some means of self-healing in the beastmastery line. Like Symbiotic bond affecting (non-regen)healing as well(50ish health for you and your pet if you use Comfort Animal for example).
Or a Wilderness Survival bow. Or a beastmastery weapon. Any of those would solve my only issue with using a pet.

Rivers

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

19 Oct 2005 at 10:55 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otsegoflesh

you know what would be a great? if you could have a certain pet for a long time and create some kind of bond with it, you know how real pets sometimes gain their master's personalities? so the pet would slowly combine and morph into your body to create a SUPER RANGER thats half human and half BEAST, permanently changing your character's looks. with the "bear pet morph" your ranger would absorb the bear and then you'd be all furry and have claws and you'd get some kind of stat boost. and then you could tame a new pet and eventually have it morph into you aswell, so if you morphed with enough pets you could evolve into.. a big crazy animal or something. yeah, that would be neat.

now thats some funny s**t,

i would love the emote /petstop, when you target an enemy and your pet runs in and gets killed like a person under godzilla's foot, it gets really annoying. As for the new pets, c'mon we all know what is going to happen, they will release a dragon, and then everyone will have the dragon, 1 month later, *people in forums* c'mon Anet put some more pets in *repeat for about 1 year*

Align

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Protectors of Awesome[AWE]

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19 Oct 2005 at 11:21 - 32

Your pet shouldn't die fast at all unless you're using it wrong. As much armor as a Warrior(except vs physical), and a 120-second 5-energy Shielding Hands shout...
Unless of course you just have the pet there for kicks and giggles and don't really support it.

Dark Splitter

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The Guild Keepers [TGK]

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19 Oct 2005 at 12:29 - 33

I think pets should be improved greatly but theres one thing i would love to see on some pets and thats beening able to ride them

i dont care what you think but i think it would be amazing to ride on your wolf throught the shiverpeaks while getting them little stone summit chase you to work off a few pounds

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

19 Oct 2005 at 12:34 - 34

definitely more control, at least on par with the henchmen.

I mean i can command the henchmen to attack without attacking first (or even aggroing for that matter) and sit back and watch them kill stuff. Pets are still pretty dumb when it comes to this.

Just a way to send it to attack and a way to call it back. thats the very least we could have ;-;

Dark Splitter

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The Guild Keepers [TGK]

R/N

19 Oct 2005 at 12:37 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otsegoflesh

you know what would be a great? if you could have a certain pet for a long time and create some kind of bond with it, you know how real pets sometimes gain their master's personalities? so the pet would slowly combine and morph into your body to create a SUPER RANGER thats half human and half BEAST, permanently changing your character's looks. with the "bear pet morph" your ranger would absorb the bear and then you'd be all furry and have claws and you'd get some kind of stat boost. and then you could tame a new pet and eventually have it morph into you aswell, so if you morphed with enough pets you could evolve into.. a big crazy animal or something. yeah, that would be neat.

eh yeh that might be good but mabie if you grow a bond which became a strong freindship which mabie ur pet have more confidence in you and do higher dmg and stuff like that

Undivine

of Brackenwood

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ontario, Canada

19 Oct 2005 at 13:40 - 36

How about this... if you double-click on the pet's name in the allies window the icon turns into a pointing hand or somesuch. You then click on a target and your pet attacks the one you specified. You double-click on your pet's name and then click on yourself and your pet will yield and come to your side. This is all in addition to the AI, which your commands supercede.

Don't even need to do an overhaul of the GUI really. Just a tweak.

legendel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

UK

League of Friends (LOF)

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19 Oct 2005 at 17:11 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

I mean i can command the henchmen to attack without attacking first (or even aggroing for that matter) and sit back and watch them kill stuff.

You can?, how do you command them to attack?

Sorry for the noobish question, but i didn't know you could, what'd i miss?

Align

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Protectors of Awesome[AWE]

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19 Oct 2005 at 19:22 - 38

Select target(usually with 'c'), hold ctrl+shift, hit space. If you're close enough the henchmen will, after a moment, run up and start attacking. Especially Stefan and Devona and Thom.